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Post by poorblue on Jul 7, 2018 17:51:09 GMT
But do they want to spend it on Rovers? It seems from DC's latest interviews that they aren't even prepared to give him any transfer funds this summer. It's becoming a real mystery why they ever got involved with Rovers. Shrewsbury did well last year without spending big, Burton went up doing the same and Yeovile a few seasons ago. I’m happy with the signings just a big striker and a left back maybe Scott Golbourne and then let’s see what clarkiola can do. That's correct these clubs didn't spend big money and are small clubs with small stadiums and low attendances. Shrewsbury failed at the last hurdle last season and the team this season has been broken up. Burton against all the odds of being in the Championship for a couple of years have now gone for a Burton. Yeovil against all the odds hit the championship only to fall just as spectacularly as Sunderland have. Bournemouth is another one waiting for the massive drop with only a 10k stadium. Evolution is the way forward with a board that is financially and investment savvy lead. Perhaps something like a foreign banking group who are not only interested in money but the love of the game as well. Anyone know of a company that fits the bill and is interested
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 8, 2018 7:43:30 GMT
Shrewsbury did well last year without spending big, Burton went up doing the same and Yeovile a few seasons ago. I’m happy with the signings just a big striker and a left back maybe Scott Golbourne and then let’s see what clarkiola can do. That's correct these clubs didn't spend big money and are small clubs with small stadiums and low attendances. Shrewsbury failed at the last hurdle last season and the team this season has been broken up. Burton against all the odds of being in the Championship for a couple of years have now gone for a Burton. Yeovil against all the odds hit the championship only to fall just as spectacularly as Sunderland have. Bournemouth is another one waiting for the massive drop with only a 10k stadium. Evolution is the way forward with a board that is financially and investment savvy lead. Perhaps something like a foreign banking group who are not only interested in money but the love of the game as well. Anyone know of a company that fits the bill and is interested "Evolution is the only way forward", if that's the case why are we the only league mentioning evolution? Seriously, how long is it going to for evolution to pay for a new ground, training ground and a squad capable of surviving in the Championship? Never has that virtually impossible it can only be done by massive investment.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 8, 2018 7:48:44 GMT
But do they want to spend it on Rovers? It seems from DC's latest interviews that they aren't even prepared to give him any transfer funds this summer. It's becoming a real mystery why they ever got involved with Rovers. Don't know what interview you were listening too then? He must have been offered funds to secure the signings of Rodman, Reilly and Upson. All of which had interest from other clubs. DC was more bemoaning the conditions of the market rather than his own budget. Your confusing a wage budget with transfer funds i.e. the fund which paid for Sercombe and Nichols last season. Darrel clearly states in his BP interview the only money he gets is self generated from season ticket sells etc the ALQ's are not prepared to "donate" any money themselves.
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Post by islandgas on Jul 8, 2018 8:07:43 GMT
Don't know what interview you were listening too then? He must have been offered funds to secure the signings of Rodman, Reilly and Upson. All of which had interest from other clubs. DC was more bemoaning the conditions of the market rather than his own budget. Your confusing a wage budget with transfer funds i.e. the fund which paid for Sercombe and Nichols last season. Darrel clearly states in his BP interview the only money he gets is self generated from season ticket sells etc the ALQ's are not prepared to "donate" any money themselves. That can't be right because we are running over budget every year.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 8, 2018 8:41:53 GMT
Shrewsbury did well last year without spending big, Burton went up doing the same and Yeovile a few seasons ago. I’m happy with the signings just a big striker and a left back maybe Scott Golbourne and then let’s see what clarkiola can do. That's correct these clubs didn't spend big money and are small clubs with small stadiums and low attendances. Shrewsbury failed at the last hurdle last season and the team this season has been broken up. Burton against all the odds of being in the Championship for a couple of years have now gone for a Burton. Yeovil against all the odds hit the championship only to fall just as spectacularly as Sunderland have. Bournemouth is another one waiting for the massive drop with only a 10k stadium.Evolution is the way forward with a board that is financially and investment savvy lead. Perhaps something like a foreign banking group who are not only interested in money but the love of the game as well. Anyone know of a company that fits the bill and is interested Whereas I agree with most of what you’ve said, in PL the size of ground and income from attendances is a small % of total income. It is really about the TV deal. That’s why Bournemouth have been able to survive, the drop for Bournemouth will come when someone persuades Eddie H to go. Now that would lead to a massive drop! Agree completely about evolution with a savvy board. UTG!
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Post by axegas on Jul 8, 2018 9:56:17 GMT
Don't know what interview you were listening too then? He must have been offered funds to secure the signings of Rodman, Reilly and Upson. All of which had interest from other clubs. DC was more bemoaning the conditions of the market rather than his own budget. Your confusing a wage budget with transfer funds i.e. the fund which paid for Sercombe and Nichols last season. Darrel clearly states in his BP interview the only money he gets is self generated from season ticket sells etc the ALQ's are not prepared to "donate" any money themselves. I'm not confusing the two at all, the article never talks about transfer funds, when DC is talking about revenue from season tickets and commercial activity he is referring to his wage budget, so I think you're the one who is confused as you mentioned transfer funds in your original post, read it again if you don't believe me. I'm not construing us not spending beyond our means as a bad thing at all, I think it's good that the owners are actively trying to look at increasing revenue off the field to benefit the squad that Darrel has at his disposal on it.
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Post by knowall on Jul 8, 2018 10:07:56 GMT
Shrewsbury did well last year without spending big, Burton went up doing the same and Yeovile a few seasons ago. I’m happy with the signings just a big striker and a left back maybe Scott Golbourne and then let’s see what clarkiola can do. That's correct these clubs didn't spend big money and are small clubs with small stadiums and low attendances. Shrewsbury failed at the last hurdle last season and the team this season has been broken up. Burton against all the odds of being in the Championship for a couple of years have now gone for a Burton. Yeovil against all the odds hit the championship only to fall just as spectacularly as Sunderland have. Bournemouth is another one waiting for the massive drop with only a 10k stadium. Evolution is the way forward with a board that is financially and investment savvy lead. Perhaps something like a foreign banking group who are not only interested in money but the love of the game as well. Anyone know of a company that fits the bill and is interested Interesting alternative argument, - Bristol City - spend BIG, BIG stadium and BIG attendances - failed Aston Villa - spend BIG, BIG stadium, and BIG attendances - failed - Portsmouth - etc etc do we have to go on?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 8, 2018 10:40:48 GMT
Your confusing a wage budget with transfer funds i.e. the fund which paid for Sercombe and Nichols last season. Darrel clearly states in his BP interview the only money he gets is self generated from season ticket sells etc the ALQ's are not prepared to "donate" any money themselves. That can't be right because we are running over budget every year. That's money the ALQ's intend recovering at some point in the future "donations" are written off and so can never be recovered, unless they ever managed to sell the club at a profit.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 8, 2018 11:01:51 GMT
So is tomorrow the day?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 8, 2018 14:48:54 GMT
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 8, 2018 15:56:51 GMT
No Tease, i fully expect a new signing to be announced
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Post by islandgas on Jul 8, 2018 16:57:10 GMT
That can't be right because we are running over budget every year. That's money the ALQ's intend recovering at some point in the future "donations" are written off and so can never be recovered, unless they ever managed to sell the club at a profit. How do you know that?
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Post by lpgas on Jul 8, 2018 17:40:37 GMT
Yes but that means we have to increase our turnover by £100k to pay for the man who is going to increase our turnover oh you know that for a fact do you? I doubt very much that a commercial director or anyone else is on £100k P.A and even if they were, they would of paid it back through the improvements they've initiated that will see turnover increase anyway. Negative guesswork on your part helps no one, the club becomes more professional and well run than it's ever been and yet some still moan about it. I was quoting someone else's figures if you had cared to read the thread correctly. Point is, whatever he is on it has to be added to the minus or out goings column along with his N.i. and any expenses or bonus payments. It's not negative it's fact unless of course you live in La La land
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Post by lpgas on Jul 8, 2018 17:45:21 GMT
In the early 90's we were getting 5k+ . GD told me we needed 9k attendances to break even. No U23 team. Only 2 or 3 paid coaches, and so on. I would guess we need a lot more to turn up now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 18:03:54 GMT
That's correct these clubs didn't spend big money and are small clubs with small stadiums and low attendances. Shrewsbury failed at the last hurdle last season and the team this season has been broken up. Burton against all the odds of being in the Championship for a couple of years have now gone for a Burton. Yeovil against all the odds hit the championship only to fall just as spectacularly as Sunderland have. Bournemouth is another one waiting for the massive drop with only a 10k stadium. Evolution is the way forward with a board that is financially and investment savvy lead. Perhaps something like a foreign banking group who are not only interested in money but the love of the game as well. Anyone know of a company that fits the bill and is interested "Evolution is the only way forward", if that's the case why are we the only league mentioning evolution? Seriously, how long is it going to for evolution to pay for a new ground, training ground and a squad capable of surviving in the Championship? Never has that virtually impossible it can only be done by massive investment. Re a squad surviving in the championship, let's be patient. We've only recently got of non league, whuch itself was preceded by five or six years of struggle in League 2. Re paying for a new stadium and training ground, give the board/owners a break. They've only been here two years. I can't help feeling that some aren't forgiving them for not proceding with the UWE deal, and are unwilling to accept the reason given that it wasn't right for the club.
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Post by knowall on Jul 8, 2018 18:50:22 GMT
In the early 90's we were getting 5k+ . GD told me we needed 9k attendances to break even. No U23 team. Only 2 or 3 paid coaches, and so on. I would guess we need a lot more to turn up now of course they do - and they pay more than they did then - and we need them to spend more - ie at the clubhouse rather than in the pub up the road - hence the improvements - and the increase in revenue adds to DCs budget
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Post by Severncider on Jul 8, 2018 19:41:55 GMT
In the early 90's we were getting 5k+ . GD told me we needed 9k attendances to break even. No U23 team. Only 2 or 3 paid coaches, and so on. I would guess we need a lot more to turn up now of course they do - and they pay more than they did then - and we need them to spend more - ie at the clubhouse rather than in the pub up the road - hence the improvements - and the increase in revenue adds to DCs budget A contribution from the Presidents Club would be most welcome by the football club. Helpline and the Supporters Club have all made significant donations.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 8, 2018 19:48:01 GMT
That's money the ALQ's intend recovering at some point in the future "donations" are written off and so can never be recovered, unless they ever managed to sell the club at a profit. How do you know that? Because it's EFL SCMP/FFP rules if an owner "donates" money to boost the club's turnover it's considered written off, a bit like you or I giving money to a charity. <abbr data-timestamp="1531073034000" title="Jul 8, 2018 19:03:54 GMT 1" class="o-timestamp time">Jul 8, 2018 19:03:54 GMT 1</abbr> gas1970 said:"Evolution is the only way forward", if that's the case why are we the only league mentioning evolution? Seriously, how long is it going to for evolution to pay for a new ground, training ground and a squad capable of surviving in the Championship? Never has that virtually impossible it can only be done by massive investment. Re a squad surviving in the championship, let's be patient. We've only recently got of non league, whuch itself was preceded by five or six years of struggle in League 2. Re paying for a new stadium and training ground, give the board/owners a break. They've only been here two years. I can't help feeling that some aren't forgiving them for not proceding with the UWE deal, and are unwilling to accept the reason given that it wasn't right for the club. I was referring to the Poorblue suggesting the only way forward was the "evolution" model, however, I assume DC is gunning for promotion (or a brilliant BS'er if not) and probably aims to do that sometime soon. In my view there's no point in getting there if the ALQ's aren't prepared to fund a squad capable of surviving in the Championship.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 8, 2018 19:56:19 GMT
Isn't it fairly clear that the squad that gets you into the Championship is not the squad to keep you there? 2 separate jobs, Topper.
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