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Post by markczgas on Apr 3, 2018 9:01:10 GMT
Rovers will need 13 pts from last 6 to improve on last season's tally - which would give them 67 pts. Think that's very unlikely with the games to play. 60pts a more realistic target. Its a better quality division than last year imo. So then our quality needs to improve ? What if next season the league will be "stronger" than this one ?
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 3, 2018 9:01:20 GMT
I think what’s he’s saying is we shouldn’t be happy with mid table league 1 we should want more and DC should go. Even though DC has turned our club around and taken us from league 2 relegation fodder to league 1 play off push in 3 years. You really couldn’t make it up. On one hand he’s not the right man yet he’s got us to the point where if we pushed on we’d be championship so now he should go. Correct me if I’m wrong midland but that’s what your saying right ? You are wrong , DC is a decent league 1 and2 manager and also non league , but he does not have the experience to take us further we now need a manager with experience and contacts at a higher level to push us forward, if D C stays we will be having he same conversations this time next season from what I read on here it seems everyone's priority is to have a pretty nice new stadium , but that's no good unless you have a team to fill it , get the team right first fill the mem to overflowing every week get into the championship and then get the stadium Eddie Howe didn’t have experience when he took Bournemouth up. Neither did Pearson when he took Leicester up. That’s half the problems with clubs these days, everyone wants a brand name manager thinking it will guarantee them success and will sack them after 9-10 games. It’s ridiculous. A manager needs time to build a club around him. That’s what makes successful clubs do well. The abramovich model only works in the top 4 of the prem for 1 season. The stadium is a chicken and egg scenario. Better facilities will mean a natural increase in fans who won’t attend the Mem at the moment because they can get a seat or facilities mean their disability restricts them. We are limited to how many away fans can come from the bigger sides and we certainly couldn’t take advantage of a juicy home cup draw against a prem team. All of that means more money for the club which increases budgets, turnover, profits or less of a loss which means DC has more to play with in the transfer market. Better footballing facilities will draw better players as we may be able to pay slightly better wages. The snowball effect from all of that means we have a chance of progressing up the leagues at a faster rate than we do now. L1 will always be our level whilst we are at the Mem.
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 3, 2018 10:53:14 GMT
Its a better quality division than last year imo. So then our quality needs to improve ? What if next season the league will be "stronger" than this one ? Well our quality has improved. We've got 2 better goalkeepers. Liam Sercombe, Bennett and Broadbent have improved us.
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Post by baggins on Apr 3, 2018 11:37:07 GMT
Its a better quality division than last year imo. So then our quality needs to improve ? What if next season the league will be "stronger" than this one ? That always happens with the Championship relegations and the L2 promotions with money being pumped into their squads.
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Post by althepirate on Apr 3, 2018 14:10:07 GMT
There are always a lot of moaners when we lose a game, there always has and always will be. I remember as a young boy watching the great fifties side and on a bad day the moaners saying 'what a load of rubbish, I'm not coming anymore' the Twerton team when Gerry told the moaners they were expecting too much. I thought there were a lot of positives yesterday and a big negative with Lines who cost us probably a draw. I know wingers are supposed to be a thing of the past but players still have to be in those positions to have an affect whether they are called wing backs, wide midfield or whatever. Yesterday I thought Moore and Bennett were excellent in those areas and both could beat their man.In fact the penetration stopped and highlighted the weakness of the front two against strong commanding centre halves. I thought Slocombe was excellent as was our passing and movement.I think we need to improve our physical strength especially upfront and in defence where I reckon Broadbent will be a class act in the future. So c'mon you moaners get behind the lads we have some great people in charge now and some very decent prospects on the playing side.C'Mon U blues!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 3, 2018 14:45:45 GMT
We don't need a serious injection. A few tweaks, We're not far off. May be, but if we only need a few tweaks. The tweaks are going to have to be really good ones. We struggle to make that type of signing. I know what you mean. A couple to come in on a par with say Sercombe or Bennett would be alright, though?
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Apr 3, 2018 15:18:44 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 3, 2018 15:35:45 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael laughing at the image of Wael reading your post and going ah yes a solid business case from batnstaplegas I can take direct to the board.
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Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2018 15:51:57 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael I’d rather have 2-3 good free signings.
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Post by pirate on Apr 3, 2018 15:55:25 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael I’d rather have 2-3 good free signings. Plenty of them about across Europe this summer.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Apr 3, 2018 15:57:47 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael laughing at the image of Wael reading your post and going ah yes a solid business case from batnstaplegas I can take direct to the board. whos batnstaplegas ?
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Post by Russgas on Apr 3, 2018 16:05:13 GMT
2/3 good signing 300-500k each ish over to you mr wael I’d rather have 2-3 good free signings. It can be done, just look at Shrewsbury.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 3, 2018 17:05:01 GMT
laughing at the image of Wael reading your post and going ah yes a solid business case from batnstaplegas I can take direct to the board. whos batnstaplegas ? The bat ‘n’ staple? It’s my local pub!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 3, 2018 17:35:20 GMT
laughing at the image of Wael reading your post and going ah yes a solid business case from batnstaplegas I can take direct to the board. whos batnstaplegas ? oh no the business case would fall through on a typo. Typical. Still, the content is all there. batnstaplegas is you, of course.
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 3, 2018 23:11:18 GMT
I’d rather have 2-3 good free signings. It can be done, just look at Shrewsbury. Just look at Millwall. They've only spent 500k on transfers this season(That's less than we have on Nichols, Sercombe and Mensah) bringing in George Saville from Wolves. The rest of their signings have been free transfers, mostly players from League One, Tom Elliot (Wimbledon),Conor Mcglauchlin(Fleetwood) and James Meredith(Bradford) Plus experienced heads like Tim Cahill and Jason Shackell both on Free's If you consider City have spent circa £15M, Millwall have done a great job.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 0:15:37 GMT
It can be done, just look at Shrewsbury. Just look at Millwall. They've only spent 500k on transfers this season(That's less than we have on Nichols, Sercombe and Mensah) bringing in George Saville from Wolves. The rest of their signings have been free transfers, mostly players from League One, Tom Elliot (Wimbledon),Conor Mcglauchlin(Fleetwood) and James Meredith(Bradford) Plus experienced heads like Tim Cahill and Jason Shackell both on Free's If you consider City have spent circa £15M, Millwall have done a great job. On transfers not much spent but their wage budget last season was £9.4m about four times higher than ours. Source "swiss ramble" respected football finance blogger. Mind you their wage bill is low now there in the championship. shackell,saville and ben marshalls wage are likely to be pretty high. With the same financial backing last season it could have been us pushing for the play-offs in the championship. Oh and their owners reduced the overall debt to £30m by writing off £20m. Poor sods
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Post by completewingback on Apr 4, 2018 10:28:19 GMT
We need to look further afield and pick up 2 or 3 gems from abroad. If Scunthorpe can sign someone like Funso Ojo, I dont see why we can't do something similar. I wish the club would get you in for a few hours and listen to what you’ve got to say. It’s a big world and a small England and we can’t compete with the majority of the clubs financially at our level so looking abroad would surely be a wise move. The championship and smaller premier league clubs do it because most of the top English players play for the top 6 -7 in the Prem and I’ve heard many a manager at that level say it but we don’t seem to be even looking I second this. I play a lot of Football Manager, and say what you will, that game is often very accurate with a team's reputation, finances and available pool of signings. You'd be surprised how many signings from abroad one can make, including a lot of talented Brazilians (source: am brazilian) with european visas and no club to play for. When was the last time we had a Brazilian on board? Alefe? What about an Argentine, or an Italian, or even more obscure nations like Eastern Europe? All I can remember is that one chap with a long, hard to pronounce name that signed for us and left the day after lol. We need to stretch a bit outside England, no need to go full Chelsea and only sign foreigners but we do need a bit of spreading in that department, England is small and athletes are getting more and more overpriced.
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Post by axegas on Apr 4, 2018 10:41:16 GMT
It can be done, just look at Shrewsbury. Just look at Millwall. They've only spent 500k on transfers this season(That's less than we have on Nichols, Sercombe and Mensah) bringing in George Saville from Wolves. The rest of their signings have been free transfers, mostly players from League One, Tom Elliot (Wimbledon),Conor Mcglauchlin(Fleetwood) and James Meredith(Bradford) Plus experienced heads like Tim Cahill and Jason Shackell both on Free's If you consider City have spent circa £15M, Millwall have done a great job. On a wage budget 5-6 times bigger than ours having spent their way out of League 1 the previous season. Not saying its a bad example it's just not one we are likely to emulate. I would of thought Burton was a good example of a well run club not spending over the odds but still punching above their weight. Shrewsbury too have done excellently this season on a wage budget similar to ours. It can be done.
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 4, 2018 14:30:52 GMT
Just look at Millwall. They've only spent 500k on transfers this season(That's less than we have on Nichols, Sercombe and Mensah) bringing in George Saville from Wolves. The rest of their signings have been free transfers, mostly players from League One, Tom Elliot (Wimbledon),Conor Mcglauchlin(Fleetwood) and James Meredith(Bradford) Plus experienced heads like Tim Cahill and Jason Shackell both on Free's If you consider City have spent circa £15M, Millwall have done a great job. On a wage budget 5-6 times bigger than ours having spent their way out of League 1 the previous season. Not saying its a bad example it's just not one we are likely to emulate. I would of thought Burton was a good example of a well run club not spending over the odds but still punching above their weight. Shrewsbury too have done excellently this season on a wage budget similar to ours. It can be done. They didn't spend their way out of the division at all. Until this season they hadn't spent a penny on transfer fees since they signed Lee Gregory from Halifax for £300k back in 2014, and even then they made half of that back by selling Scott Malone to Cardiff. Millwall are 1 point of the Play Offs in The Championship despite only spending about £600k net over the last 4 years. Burton have spent twice as much on transfers in the same time frame. Its about being prudent in the transfer market, I'd rather have better quality free transfers on higher wages, than not so good players who cost transfer fees. Millwall have done brilliantly.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 4, 2018 15:27:36 GMT
yes but Millwall have the Lion of London Bridge
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