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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 15:48:11 GMT
Why on Earth has Gaffney been retained? Can only hope he will just be a squad player. Maybe he was still under contract? Fair point. Hopefully will get a fee for him then. Don't particularly want another season of watching him chase his first touch down the M4.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 3, 2018 15:51:30 GMT
Maybe he was still under contract? Fair point. Hopefully will get a fee for him then. Don't particularly want another season of watching him chase his first touch down the M4. He's not the best but would make no sense releasing him if he is under contract, and he isn't going to be a first 11 player often. TBH, I think he would make a good signing for a L2 club so we could potentially get a small fee for him. Especially if say FGR sold Doidge? He would be a good replacement with loads of money in the bank for them.
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Post by bovrilsorters on May 3, 2018 15:52:24 GMT
It could be that the contract offer was on table still for Leads - players like gaffers may have been out of contract at end of season but agreed new deals recently..... I would have expected more out of contract players given we have a tendency to go for shorter term deals nowadays I disagree. In the conference and League 2, yes we gave out short contracts and made players earn longer deals. But over the last 12-18 months, the club wont release length of contract details when they announce a signing or announce extended contract signed. Se in reality, we have no idea how long a lot of players contract are these days. And if a player had recently signed a new contract then the club would have announced it and no doubt that there would be an interview with the player too along side the announcement. Could well be, just thinking that if agreed deals recently may not want to disclose publicly until the retained list announced. If not sure DC will be looking to offload some of the under contract players who haven't cut it 2nd half of this season if they aren't in his plans.
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Post by bovrilsorters on May 3, 2018 15:53:54 GMT
Fair point. Hopefully will get a fee for him then. Don't particularly want another season of watching him chase his first touch down the M4. He's not the best but would make no sense releasing him if he is under contract, and he isn't going to be a first 11 player often. TBH, I think he would make a good signing for a L2 club so we could potentially get a small fee for him. Especially if say FGR sold Doidge? He would be a good replacement with loads of money in the bank for them. Agree, would be a very good player at L2 level - if played all season reckon he could get c15 goals, which combined with his workrate for the team would make him worth 30-50k IMO
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Post by rosssgb on May 3, 2018 15:54:49 GMT
For us, 1 goal in 1,648 edit - in the league that is Cheers. I meant comparing Nicholls with Gaffney. This season in all comps: Nichols - 2 goals in 2,033 mins (with 3 assists) Gaffney - 7 goals in 2,295 mins (with 6 assists)
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Post by cj on May 3, 2018 15:56:51 GMT
Moore - who says he's had an upturn in form? How many assists and goals has this upturn produced? Gaffney, a striker that does all his best work outside the box. One goal this year (in January) and then you have to go back to October to find his previous goal. If everyone wants to slag off Nicholls for his lack of goals, shouldn't the same rules apply to Rory? Both are as poor as the other. 'Trying hard' sadly doesn't translate to goals. I could run around a lot and give 100%, doesn't mean I'd be any good. Gaffney and Nichols both spend the too much time running around like headless chickens, drifting out to the wing. Made a point of watching Nichols vs Gillingham and many times he dropped deep even as far back as the CB's to get involved and make some simple passes, which is all well and good, but looking tidy in possession and playing a few short passes means nothing when your a striker who's only scored 2 in 43 apps. Link isn't working but search for Nichols on here to get his stats > www.transfermarkt.com1 league goal in 37 games 😳 Gaffney has played in 42 league games this season and scored 7 league goals. He has scored just 1 goal since the end of October! He also made 4 assists. Nichols has played in 38 league games this season and scored 1 league goal. He hasn't scored any goals since the end of October! He also made 2 assists. Harrison has played in 43 league games this season and scored 12 league goals. He last scored 9 games ago. He also made 3 assists. That's 3 strikers scoring 20 league goals between them. We need 1 striker who can score 20 on his own! If we had this already, we could be in the top 6 now. We have been shocking at times in defence. But looking at our 3 strikers league stats, its not pretty reading. I cant fault any of their work rate either so I am not having a go at them. We just need more goals. Take Harrison out of this, Gaffney and Nichols have scored just 8 league goals between them and has 6 assists between them, within 80 combined games this league season. Just not good enough. Nichols has only been involved in 3 league goals in 38 league games. Again, I am not having a go here but this needs to be rectified.
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Post by singupgas on May 3, 2018 15:57:16 GMT
I think a few more could have added to the list. But DC calls the shots. We will struggle if some of the over achieving regulars are still in and around starting 11.
Can only hope we have kept hold of players so we aren't immediately short, and have our own to full back on. But as I've said I think we will struggle. Need 4 or 5 quality players if we want to do anything. Will end up if 1 or 2 again.
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Post by pirate on May 3, 2018 15:58:09 GMT
Cheers. I meant comparing Nicholls with Gaffney. This season in all comps: Nichols - 2 goals in 2,033 mins (with 3 assists) Gaffney - 7 goals in 2,295 mins (with 6 assists) Not good.
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Post by LJG on May 3, 2018 15:59:38 GMT
Cheers. I meant comparing Nicholls with Gaffney. This season in all comps: Nichols - 2 goals in 2,033 mins (with 3 assists) Gaffney - 7 goals in 2,295 mins (with 6 assists) So Nicholls is 1017 minutes per goal and Gaffney is 328 minutes per goal. So Gaffney is 3 times the player Nicholls is.
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Post by cj on May 3, 2018 16:01:10 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 3, 2018 16:10:33 GMT
Marcus Maddison's 18 league assists for Peterborough is very impressive. Similarly Graham Carey's 13 league assists (and 12 league goals) for Plymouth.
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Post by cj on May 3, 2018 16:11:10 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on May 3, 2018 16:31:23 GMT
So basically we're keeping most of this season's mid table finishing first team sqaud, not sure what our Head of Recruitment is going to be doing all summer if he just needs to find a new first team RW and LB plus squad players.
It''ll be interesting to see if the HoR does any wheeler dealing with the likes of Gaffers as I can't see they're good enough if top 6 is the aim.
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Post by Qatar Gas on May 3, 2018 16:37:49 GMT
Obviously Gaffney must still be under contract and there’s only one out of contract player who has been offered a new deal.
The article says the loan players have gone back and told us who is being released. Has everyone forgotten we still have one more game?! That’s six players who have been in the last couple of squads missing! So will the bench be full of development players?
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 3, 2018 16:49:18 GMT
Obviously Gaffney must still be under contract and there’s only one out of contract player who has been offered a new deal. The article says the loan players have gone back and told us who is being released. Has everyone forgotten we still have one more game?! That’s six players who have been in the last couple of squads missing! So will the bench be full of development players? Lets hope so, great opportunity to particularly give Michael Kelly 90 minutes at left back. I would also like to see Lewis Lee-Gilchrist (brother of Portsmouth Danny Rose) given an opportunity in midfield. Imo great time for the new recruitment fella to look for loan moves / or get rid of both Gaffney and Nichols, DC said yesterday he is now looking for better quality players not a bigger squad, which all makes sense, which will mean especially none scoring centre forwards exiting the club.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 3, 2018 16:52:16 GMT
I don't get why Byron Moore was favoured in the first XI so much at the end.
He did well in this period and still didn't get a contract. Not that I disagree with DC's decision, he had long enough here, just thought others with a Rovers future could have been given more game time in his place.
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Post by jkgas15 on May 3, 2018 16:53:56 GMT
Danny leadbitters only had 27 minutes off the operating table this year and matched nichols for assists lol
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on May 3, 2018 17:01:02 GMT
Personally I think we've gone about this the correct way, we know we have a squad that is perfectly capable at this level so quite why some are insisting we need to get rid of half of them is beyond me. The test now is to bring in players like Sercombe that are going to be regular starters thereby raising the standard of the squad as a whole.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 3, 2018 17:24:11 GMT
Personally I think we've gone about this the correct way, we know we have a squad that is perfectly capable at this level so quite why some are insisting we need to get rid of half of them is beyond me. The test now is to bring in players like Sercombe that are going to be regular starters thereby raising the standard of the squad as a whole. Capable of a mid table finish but surely with all this expenditure on a CEO & HoR etc the aim must be a top 6 finish, but we've hardly beaten one top 10 side this season. For me we need better quality 1st team: LB, DCM, RW & two strikers, plus I'd take also Lumley or similar any day over Slocombe or Smith. This type of team would challenge for a top 6 place. Lumley Parts/Leads Locks, TB/TC New LB New RW New DCM CL/LS Bennett New No. 10 Harrison
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Post by Topper Gas on May 3, 2018 17:26:29 GMT
I don't get why Byron Moore was favoured in the first XI so much at the end. He did well in this period and still didn't get a contract. Not that I disagree with DC's decision, he had long enough here, just thought others with a Rovers future could have been given more game time in his place. Good point, plus what was the point of Bloom making a rare appearance on Saturday but Mensah can't get near the first 11 when he looks like he'll still be here next season.
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