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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 12:24:58 GMT
Wait till March when France will be under no obligation whatsoever to hold back the immigrants at their ports. That's going to be interesting. What are we going to do? Deploy the navy and sink the boats?
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Post by baggins on Jul 10, 2018 12:58:30 GMT
Wait till March when France will be under no obligation whatsoever to hold back the immigrants at their ports. That's going to be interesting. What are we going to do? Deploy the navy and sink the boats? We've got a Navy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 13:00:44 GMT
That's going to be interesting. What are we going to do? Deploy the navy and sink the boats? We've got a Navy? A couple of aircraft carriers. Not sure they have any aircraft, yet
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Post by baggins on Jul 10, 2018 13:06:39 GMT
A couple of aircraft carriers. Not sure they have any aircraft, yet Nice to know we're still a Super power. We've still got those Camel bi-planes right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 13:20:30 GMT
A couple of aircraft carriers. Not sure they have any aircraft, yet Nice to know we're still a Super power. We've still got those Camel bi-planes right? Better. Swordfish are back up planes for the carrier. So slow that surface to air missiles zing past them.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2018 13:32:14 GMT
A couple of aircraft carriers. Not sure they have any aircraft, yet Very much so. Helicopters on board and jets forming up at their Norfolk base ready for landing and integration in the next couple of months.
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Post by baggins on Jul 10, 2018 13:43:08 GMT
A couple of aircraft carriers. Not sure they have any aircraft, yet Very much so. Helicopters on board and jets forming up at their Norfolk base ready for landing and integration in the next couple of months. Are these the same jet fighters that we bought from the Americans that can't land properly on our decks as the heat causes distortion? On the same Aircraft Carrier that we built with engines that can't cope with warm water temperatures and now have to be replaced by cutting the hull away as we designed it so that once the engines were in place they can't get them out again? And how much did that all cost?
We really are the joke of the World.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2018 14:52:33 GMT
Very much so. Helicopters on board and jets forming up at their Norfolk base ready for landing and integration in the next couple of months. Are these the same jet fighters that we bought from the Americans that can't land properly on our decks as the heat causes distortion? On the same Aircraft Carrier that we built with engines that can't cope with warm water temperatures and now have to be replaced by cutting the hull away as we designed it so that once the engines were in place they can't get them out again? And how much did that all cost?
We really are the joke of the World.
£3.1Bn per ship, of which £1bn+ per ship was caused by political delays. None of the other concerns you have are true and the US (especially the Marine Corps) are very impressed with them.
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Post by inee on Jul 10, 2018 22:02:13 GMT
Wait till March when France will be under no obligation whatsoever to hold back the immigrants at their ports. That's going to be interesting. What are we going to do? Deploy the navy and sink the boats? Whilst that's a very good but unworkable idea ,just round em up chuck em on a herc and send them from where they came from ,it wouldn't take many flights for them to get the message ,sort out the uk first before worrying about others who really aren't our problem
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Post by baggins on Jul 11, 2018 4:52:49 GMT
That's going to be interesting. What are we going to do? Deploy the navy and sink the boats? Whilst that's a very good but unworkable idea ,just round em up chuck em on a herc and send them from where they came from ,it wouldn't take many flights for them to get the message ,sort out the uk first before worrying about others who really aren't our problem How do you know where they came from?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 6:52:53 GMT
Whilst that's a very good but unworkable idea ,just round em up chuck em on a herc and send them from where they came from ,it wouldn't take many flights for them to get the message ,sort out the uk first before worrying about others who really aren't our problem How do you know where they came from? France for a start?
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Post by inee on Jul 11, 2018 8:26:06 GMT
Whilst that's a very good but unworkable idea ,just round em up chuck em on a herc and send them from where they came from ,it wouldn't take many flights for them to get the message ,sort out the uk first before worrying about others who really aren't our problem How do you know where they came from? You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 11, 2018 8:29:23 GMT
How do you know where they came from? You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others " You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as" Brilliant idea!! I think I'll lie, say I'm a migrant and came from Australia! Job done!
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Post by inee on Jul 11, 2018 8:36:09 GMT
You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others " You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as" Brilliant idea!! I think I'll lie, say I'm a migrant and came from Australia! Job done! Quick tip don't say australia or canada as you will spend the rest of your days flying betwixt countries .
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 11, 2018 8:39:44 GMT
How do you know where they came from? You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others And if that country says not us, what then? We do have our own problems, but we cannot live in isolation any more. If we ignore it, it will come to us eventually. Better to try and prevent it now and if they become richer as a result then they want to stay and will buy our products. Think of it as an advance for trade later.
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Post by inee on Jul 11, 2018 8:57:26 GMT
You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others And if that country says not us, what then? We do have our own problems, but we cannot live in isolation any more. If we ignore it, it will come to us eventually. Better to try and prevent it now and if they become richer as a result then they want to stay and will buy our products. Think of it as an advance for trade later. In that case line em up , we haven't lived in isolation for a long while ,try to prevent it you say like germany ,italy and other eu countries have ,yes open the borders willy nilly ,every single one of em is willing to work and fit straight into our ways ain't em ,tell you what i've an even better idea ,let those who think people have a right to come here sponsor and look after one they will be your responsibility even if they commit crimes you will still be responsible . Feed em ,clothe em ,provide everything for them how many people do you think in reality would do that ??
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 11, 2018 9:02:02 GMT
And if that country says not us, what then? We do have our own problems, but we cannot live in isolation any more. If we ignore it, it will come to us eventually. Better to try and prevent it now and if they become richer as a result then they want to stay and will buy our products. Think of it as an advance for trade later. In that case line em up , we haven't lived in isolation for a long while ,try to prevent it you say like germany ,italy and other eu countries have ,yes open the borders willy nilly ,every single one of em is willing to work and fit straight into our ways ain't em ,tell you what i've an even better idea ,let those who think people have a right to come here sponsor and look after one they will be your responsibility even if they commit crimes you will still be responsible . Feed em ,clothe em ,provide everything for them how many people do you think in reality would do that ?? I think I may have skipped a stage, I was meaning trying to discourage migration with our Aid Budget by improving infrastructure in country.
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Post by inee on Jul 11, 2018 9:22:55 GMT
I think you did stu ,hasn't that been tried for yonks and still going on ,it's a difficult thing to try and do as we force western ideas to cultures that live in an entirely different way than we do ,that works doesn't it especially as it also slowly kills of those cultures identity and traditions. Look at the f**k up things like live aid caused ,those families in other countries have large families for a reason (it's never good to lose a child) ,geldof and his merry men go in flashing ,food ,tools ,money around ,people think hey good job i can sleep at night, the reality is they need to learn that as more food is available and survival rate go up ,they need to have less kids as eventually the cycle repeats itself ,unfortunately now theres say twice as many people to feed ,so in effect it just gets worse and worse. If countries like ours and the so called rest of the developed world can't look after ourselves properly ,what does it achieve throwing our standards at countries that have survived until we interfered ,again why invest money in countries that have their own space programs. Not being coldhearted just looking at the reality of things, the west could learn a thing or two from these countries (yes i know it's not all roses around the front door) as in the way families come first over there
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Post by baggins on Jul 11, 2018 10:32:20 GMT
How do you know where they came from? You ask and send them there ,if they have lied then tough tits to em simple as ,as i repeatedly say we need to sort our own first ,many ex forces need real help and before people blame just one government they all treat those who serve like a pile of sh1te , so again i will say tell everyone to feck orf until homelessness is eradicated ,mental health and other disabilities are no longer taboo and those needing help get it ,then and only then worry about others Agreed with your sort ourselves out, but asking sn illegal immigrant where they come from so we know where we can send them back to is just fantasy. Besides, we've got one coastguard boat, and no coastal police to mention so how are we going to stop them coming ashore?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 11:40:30 GMT
You send them back to the country of departure if they arrive via plane or ferry. That is really quite simple.
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