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Post by baggins on Aug 10, 2018 10:41:26 GMT
At the least, people who've bought them might tell the story of what an awful event it was for the World and those that died and suffered. Humans generally have a morbid fascination. I don't have anything against people selling or buying the Nazi stuff. There is a story to be told, and we should always tell it to future generations. It is history. It happened. Better to learn from it than to ignore it only for it to resurrect it's ugly head in the future. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 10:51:38 GMT
I don't have anything against people selling or buying the Nazi stuff. There is a story to be told, and we should always tell it to future generations. It is history. It happened. Better to learn from it than to ignore it only for it to resurrect it's ugly head in the future. Agreed. Blimey. 2nd that.
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Post by baggins on Aug 10, 2018 11:03:09 GMT
Don't encourage him too much, he'll start dribbling on about loads of other crap otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 11:31:58 GMT
Oh fer chrissakes....you'll all be wanting a group hug next !
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Post by baggins on Aug 10, 2018 11:58:07 GMT
Oh fer chrissakes....you'll all be wanting a group hug next ! Don't push it.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 10, 2018 19:29:34 GMT
Oh fer chrissakes....you'll all be wanting a group hug next ! Don't push it. I think all Nazi memorabilia and novelties should be burned to a crisp. And books. All the books.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:25:08 GMT
There you go Oldie. No need to unduly worry about your insulin....
"THE NHS will avoid running out of critical supplies in a No Deal Brexit by automatically recognising European standards on drugs and medical equipment, contingency plans show.A technical note on Batch Testing of Medicine due to be published later today says Brussels testing rules will be respected so that “imported medicines will not need to be retested.” The move is designed to see off a back log of medical supplies shipped into Britain at the border.On Monday Exit Secretary Dominic Raab blasted “scare stories” about the NHS running out of drugs if Brexit talks collapse, with Ministers vowing to keep supply chains running.EU rules on organs, tissue and blood will also be automatically taken in to British law in the No Deal scenario. And Brussels standards on drugs and medical equipment will automatically be taken onto UK statue books on “Day One” to prevent any threat to the NHS. Health boss Matthew Hancock has reassured more than 100 NHS importers that a crack team of specialist will be set up by next March to monitor supply chains and stocks.And this summer a “comprehensive assessment” of all supply chains has been secretly undertaken.Last night Victoria Hewson of the Institute of Economic Affairs said: "As long as the Government makes arrangements to ensure a no-deal scenario is workable for businesses and consumers alike, we won't run out of food, planes will still fly and the sick will still receive their medicines."She added: "These steps will ensure access to safe medical products and devices. Supplies won’t dry up and prices for drugs won’t rise."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 14:00:21 GMT
Yes, I watched the majority of that speech delivered by Dominic Raab on the BBC live this morning. Like I said on the other thread, loads of potential effort in order to negate adverse impacts with zero discernable gain. Dad's Army indeed. Of course a couple of days ago the CEO of NHS Providers Chris Hopson warned of the potential issues just a couple of days ago. Link here to media report on his comments. www.independent.co.uk/news/health/no-deal-brexit-nhs-medicine-shortages-drugs-providers-chris-hopson-eu-a8500446.htmlSo let me think, do I believe this utter shambles of a government, or do I believe people on the front line of service provision. Hmmmm. Wass fink Nobby?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:06:29 GMT
So now, a minister from the same Government saying the financial hit from a no deal will be greater than previously forecast. Emmm
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 23, 2018 22:53:26 GMT
More civil servants, organic farmers waiting 9 months for sign off, RAF Manston being turned into a lorry park without the road infrastructure, lorries waived through Dover, stockpiling of 6 weeks worth of medicines and preferential flights to ensure supply. Companies told to employ specialist staff and increased red tape. And more to come next week.
Just as well this is a negotiating tactic and a way to bring dissenters in the Conservative Party to heel and back the Chequers agreement, isn't it?!?!
Did anyone see Tom Newton Dunn's Twitter today? Apparently much of what was said still relies on the EU agreeing, otherwise it would be bad for us. So even our no deal depends on a deal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:00:02 GMT
Yes, I watched the majority of that speech delivered by Dominic Raab on the BBC live this morning. Like I said on the other thread, loads of potential effort in order to negate adverse impacts with zero discernable gain. Dad's Army indeed. Of course a couple of days ago the CEO of NHS Providers Chris Hopson warned of the potential issues just a couple of days ago. Link here to media report on his comments. www.independent.co.uk/news/health/no-deal-brexit-nhs-medicine-shortages-drugs-providers-chris-hopson-eu-a8500446.htmlSo let me think, do I believe this utter shambles of a government, or do I believe people on the front line of service provision. Hmmmm. Wass fink Nobby? He would say that wouldn't he? I think it's called 'covering your arse'. It's also a two-way street. There are some drugs that the UK supply to the rest of the EU. Will there be a problem supplying those drugs after Brexit? Of course not. Why do you have this view that after Brexit the UK will be 'cut off' with nothing coming from the EU?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:02:34 GMT
More civil servants, organic farmers waiting 9 months for sign off, RAF Manston being turned into a lorry park without the road infrastructure, lorries waived through Dover, stockpiling of 6 weeks worth of medicines and preferential flights to ensure supply. Companies told to employ specialist staff and increased red tape. And more to come next week. Just as well this is a negotiating tactic and a way to bring dissenters in the Conservative Party to heel and back the Chequers agreement, isn't it?!?! Did anyone see Tom Newton Dunn's Twitter today? Apparently much of what was said still relies on the EU agreeing, otherwise it would be bad for us. So even our no deal depends on a deal. It's just Project Fear 2.0
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:03:20 GMT
So now, a minister from the same Government saying the financial hit from a no deal will be greater than previously forecast. Emmm Which Minister? Is he/she a Remainer?
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 24, 2018 7:09:29 GMT
More civil servants, organic farmers waiting 9 months for sign off, RAF Manston being turned into a lorry park without the road infrastructure, lorries waived through Dover, stockpiling of 6 weeks worth of medicines and preferential flights to ensure supply. Companies told to employ specialist staff and increased red tape. And more to come next week. Just as well this is a negotiating tactic and a way to bring dissenters in the Conservative Party to heel and back the Chequers agreement, isn't it?!?! Did anyone see Tom Newton Dunn's Twitter today? Apparently much of what was said still relies on the EU agreeing, otherwise it would be bad for us. So even our no deal depends on a deal. It's just Project Fear 2.0 Project Fear 2.0? It comes from DExU with several Brexit ministers and briefed by a staunch Brexiteer in the Secretary of State, as was his predecessor. TND is from The Sun, hardly a Remain paper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:20:04 GMT
It's just Project Fear 2.0 Project Fear 2.0? It comes from DExU with several Brexit ministers and briefed by a staunch Brexiteer in the Secretary of State, as was his predecessor. TND is from The Sun, hardly a Remain paper. This is because we all now the Chequers Deal is a bad one ! DExU now has no place in the Brexit negotiations. They have been sidelined by May's little European Group led by Ollie Robbins.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 24, 2018 7:52:34 GMT
It's just Project Fear 2.0 Project Fear 2.0? It comes from DExU with several Brexit ministers and briefed by a staunch Brexiteer in the Secretary of State, as was his predecessor. TND is from The Sun, hardly a Remain paper. Ah good old project fear. Just like good old fake news. Who's the manager of this project? Who's funding it? Who's sponsoring it? I think nobby that as we seem to finally be uncovering actual facts after so much wild speculation it would be useful to take them seriously. Or we could just shout fake news or project fear every time something comes up that we don't like the look of. After all, this is happening one way or another and it may mean the difference between a moderate and major f**k up (Or success of course if you still believe that)? Can I ask a question and with no offence intended - do you feel more secure in a non UK domicile than you think you would in a UK one right now?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 8:34:51 GMT
Project Fear 2.0? It comes from DExU with several Brexit ministers and briefed by a staunch Brexiteer in the Secretary of State, as was his predecessor. TND is from The Sun, hardly a Remain paper. Ah good old project fear. Just like good old fake news. Who's the manager of this project? Who's funding it? Who's sponsoring it? I think nobby that as we seem to finally be uncovering actual facts after so much wild speculation it would be useful to take them seriously. Or we could just shout fake news or project fear every time something comes up that we don't like the look of. After all, this is happening one way or another and it may mean the difference between a moderate and major f**k up (Or success of course if you still believe that)? Can I ask a question and with no offence intended - do you feel more secure in a non UK domicile than you think you would in a UK one right now? I'm not sure what you mean by 'more secure'. In what way?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 24, 2018 8:49:19 GMT
Ah good old project fear. Just like good old fake news. Who's the manager of this project? Who's funding it? Who's sponsoring it? I think nobby that as we seem to finally be uncovering actual facts after so much wild speculation it would be useful to take them seriously. Or we could just shout fake news or project fear every time something comes up that we don't like the look of. After all, this is happening one way or another and it may mean the difference between a moderate and major f**k up (Or success of course if you still believe that)? Can I ask a question and with no offence intended - do you feel more secure in a non UK domicile than you think you would in a UK one right now? I'm not sure what you mean by 'more secure'. In what way? in terms of financially and in your way of life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 9:09:01 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by 'more secure'. In what way? in terms of financially and in your way of life. Financially - It's no different here than in the UK. As a normal person there is little to gain from investing money, so it's far safer to put it into bricks. It is cheaper to borrow money here. For example, I have just taken out a loan which is fixed at 1% interest for ten years. I don't think you'd find that in the UK. Is my job safe? Not really. It has already been 'mentioned' to me that they can employ two young Indian workers for the same money they are paying me. It has been 'indicated' that I should look into the early retirement package that will be made available in the next couple of months. I'm only 58, but it appears that they want to replace me. So be it. As for way of life, well, I tend to just be involved with me and my family. I like to live in a sort of bubble, and I tend to just let things pass me by over here.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 24, 2018 11:36:38 GMT
in terms of financially and in your way of life. Financially - It's no different here than in the UK. As a normal person there is little to gain from investing money, so it's far safer to put it into bricks. It is cheaper to borrow money here. For example, I have just taken out a loan which is fixed at 1% interest for ten years. I don't think you'd find that in the UK. Is my job safe? Not really. It has already been 'mentioned' to me that they can employ two young Indian workers for the same money they are paying me. It has been 'indicated' that I should look into the early retirement package that will be made available in the next couple of months. I'm only 58, but it appears that they want to replace me. So be it. As for way of life, well, I tend to just be involved with me and my family. I like to live in a sort of bubble, and I tend to just let things pass me by over here. Pretty much the same with me, although I am much younger, of course😎 In my office we started out with over 3000 staff, over the years that has dwindled to about a third of that. So much so, we have closed off areas of the car park to save on security costs. Why? Outsourcing to India mostly and rumours of further reductions won't go away. So I too live in my own bubble of family and hobbies, such as Rovers and my interest in history and politics. Most other things are incidental.
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