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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 13:55:47 GMT
The media catching on. Not just me, the good Officer and Simon then. Anti-Brexit Parties ‘Won Biggest Share Of Vote Despite Nigel Farage Victory'’ flip.it/5MZgP-
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 14:45:21 GMT
The media catching on. Not just me, the good Officer and Simon then. Anti-Brexit Parties ‘Won Biggest Share Of Vote Despite Nigel Farage Victory'’ flip.it/5MZgP-Ha,ha......you keep believing it.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 16:12:44 GMT
The media catching on. Not just me, the good Officer and Simon then. Anti-Brexit Parties ‘Won Biggest Share Of Vote Despite Nigel Farage Victory'’ flip.it/5MZgP-Ha,ha......you keep believing it. It's ok mate, I will get one of my mates to drop by yours with a calculator. That should help.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 16:28:01 GMT
Love this The Dad’s Army intro has been hilariously edited for the Brexit Party flip.it/QxDN2S
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Post by aghast on May 27, 2019 17:26:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 17:29:10 GMT
It's just guesswork and assumptions.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on May 27, 2019 18:04:58 GMT
Lib Dems and Greens are new names for Communism.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:08:38 GMT
It's just guesswork and assumptions. You lost. Proud of Bristol, see the Greens won there.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:10:07 GMT
Lib Dems and Greens are new names for Communism. 😱🤣🤣🤣 You are taking the water right??
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:27:29 GMT
This, funny as hell Here was Nigel unplugged. His narcissism and self-deceit exposed flip.it/FdSV-g
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:28:07 GMT
Lib Dems and Greens are new names for Communism. Ask again..you were taking the water, right?
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Post by althepirate on May 27, 2019 18:29:18 GMT
A couple of points from me.... 1.The only parties that did very well we're the ones not actively involved in the negotiations. Which is a bit like continually moaning forumers who complain constantly about our players and our management, but have no involvement in the club.. We can all write a hit single until we try to. 2. How do people feel about the parties who want to stop Brexit when the will of the people said otherwise in a democratic election? I assumed we live in a democracy.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:34:28 GMT
A couple of points from me.... 1.The only parties that did very well we're the ones not actively involved in the negotiations. Which is a bit like continually moaning forumers who complain constantly about our players and our management, but have no involvement in the club.. We can all write a hit single until we try to. 2. How do people feel about the parties who want to stop Brexit when the will of the people said otherwise in a democratic election? I assumed we live in a democracy. We have done that one Al (point 2) To reiterate. We live in a Representative Democracy. Views and policies are not fixed inpertuity, people, voters, move with facts. THAT is democracy. We fought for this, our forefathers, dont hand it over to a hard right, a free market libertarian group who absolutely do not have your best interests at heart
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 19:34:02 GMT
Hard right? You are funny.
Out of interest, what is wrong with being a Libertarian? Out of interest, what is wrong with Free Markets?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 19:56:49 GMT
Hard right? You are funny. Out of interest, what is wrong with being a Libertarian? Out of interest, what is wrong with Free Markets? As a free marketeer very happy to debate the pros and cons of laissez faire capitalism with you. Perhaps this is not the thread though. Just to say though that even Adam Smith recognised the need for a more equitable (by state intervention I would contend) distribution of a nations wealth. In a truly functioning democracy.
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Post by althepirate on May 27, 2019 20:18:19 GMT
A couple of points from me.... 1.The only parties that did very well we're the ones not actively involved in the negotiations. Which is a bit like continually moaning forumers who complain constantly about our players and our management, but have no involvement in the club.. We can all write a hit single until we try to. 2. How do people feel about the parties who want to stop Brexit when the will of the people said otherwise in a democratic election? I assumed we live in a democracy. We have done that one Al (point 2) To reiterate. We live in a Representative Democracy. Views and policies are not fixed inpertuity, people, voters, move with facts. THAT is democracy. We fought for this, our forefathers, dont hand it over to a hard right, a free market libertarian group who absolutely do not have your best interests at heart That is my point Oldie Remain parties are not representing the will of the people because the Leavers won. People voted in their own interests and the Remain parties, including Labour, it is they who do not have our best interests at heart. I don't disagree that far right don't either, but isn't that the problem? No party does, the chickens have come home to roost for ALL parties and isn't that why the Brexit Party, formed six weeks ago gained so many votes? Adding up several undemocratic parties isn't an argument is it unless democracy is now dead. The Brexit Party was formed to execute the wishes of the people while the rest are doing the opposite. May did try and compromise but as they ALL have their own self interests it couldn't be achieved. Politicians putting their own self interests first will only work until there is a general election, people are not stupid, we know what's happening we just bide our time and put our cross in the appropriate box.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 20:20:53 GMT
Hard right? You are funny. Out of interest, what is wrong with being a Libertarian? Out of interest, what is wrong with Free Markets? As a free marketeer very happy to debate the pros and cons of laissez faire capitalism with you. Perhaps this is not the thread though. Just to say though that even Adam Smith recognised the need for a more equitable (by state intervention I would contend) distribution of a nations wealth. In a truly functioning democracy.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 20:29:03 GMT
We have done that one Al (point 2) To reiterate. We live in a Representative Democracy. Views and policies are not fixed inpertuity, people, voters, move with facts. THAT is democracy. We fought for this, our forefathers, dont hand it over to a hard right, a free market libertarian group who absolutely do not have your best interests at heart That is my point Oldie Remain parties are not representing the will of the people because the Leavers won. People voted in their own interests and the Remain parties, including Labour, it is they who do not have our best interests at heart. I don't disagree that far right don't either, but isn't that the problem? No party does, the chickens have come home to roost for ALL parties and isn't that why the Brexit Party, formed six weeks ago gained so many votes? Adding up several undemocratic parties isn't an argument is it unless democracy is now dead. The Brexit Party was formed to execute the wishes of the people while the rest are doing the opposite. May did try and compromise but as they ALL have their own self interests it couldn't be achieved. Politicians putting their own self interests first will only work until there is a general election, people are not stupid, we know what's happening we just bide our time and put our cross in the appropriate box. I couldn't disagree more. The key point is, inarguably, is that we live in a Representative Democracy. There is not a fixed time for a decision, we change or confirm as facts emerge or situations change. I have no idea how you can conclude that parties voted for are undemocratic? They, we, disagree with you. We make the point under a functioning representative democracy, not one that imposes our view when evidence comes to light or the majority opposes us.
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Post by althepirate on May 27, 2019 20:46:02 GMT
Well quite simply the referendum has been done Remainers lost, Leavers won. To have parties whose objectives are the opposite of what people democratically voted for is undemocratic. Both sides have 'facts' which are just used get what each side wants. The referendum has been done the people have voted Most people in this country want it done now even many Remainers who believe in the democracy we are so proud of.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 5:59:01 GMT
Hard right? You are funny. Out of interest, what is wrong with being a Libertarian? Out of interest, what is wrong with Free Markets? As a free marketeer very happy to debate the pros and cons of laissez faire capitalism with you. Perhaps this is not the thread though. Just to say though that even Adam Smith recognised the need for a more equitable (by state intervention I would contend) distribution of a nations wealth. In a truly functioning democracy. You said, "We fought for this, our forefathers, dont hand it over to a hard right, a free market libertarian group who absolutely do not have your best interests at heart" - You are implying that a 'free market libetarian group' is not such a good thing, yet you believe in Free Markets personally, plus I don't think being a Libertarian is such a bad thing! Your comment also implies that you are happy to stay with the status quo. Also, the 'hard right' claim. Can you show just where you get this assessment from? If you are going to make these claims, then back it up with evidence!
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