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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 17:42:36 GMT
I don't see Brexit as way the UK competes on any "new" level. More of a retreat, a push back, from the constraints that have been placed upon free market Capitalism. The shadow of Friedrich Hayek looms large, whose disciples were Reagan and Thatcher. This is why leavers hate Treaties like the one with the EU, rules based constraints are an anathema to them. Their great success has been to convince the general population that those rules constrained them, as individuals, when in fact they did no such thing. In America this manifests itself in the Trump phenomenon, a situation where people actually believe the State acts against them. As for you comment about shareholding, I struggle to believe that, but happy to be proven wrong. I expect you're quite excited that Britain, free of EU constraints, has authorised the new Covid vaccination and will start rolling it out almost immediately. It seems that our EU cousins, hamstrung by their various protocols, probably won't be able to do anything until at least January. I expect you're also quite cheered that the first people here to receive the vaccine will be health workers and the elderly and vulnerable. I have no doubt that you have been enormously cheered that, freed from EU regs, GB will almost immediately ban the export of live animals to the continent and elsewhere and also limit their time in transit across the UK. That's if you have any concern for animal welfare, of course. There you go Stuart, there's 2 EU laws I didn't like, and which will now be dispensed with. Cheer up chaps, 28 days until Freedom Day! You do understand that being in or out the EU has absolutely nothing to do with medicines approval? |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 17:46:11 GMT
Anyone else bored with this semi literate man child? Did he say something ? Yes, something that Gassy, 365 et al seem incapable of answering. 365 seems to have taken a sabbatical, whilst Gassy has resorted to bullshit, bluster and bluff rather than present the evidence that will apparently vindicate the monk-like 365's accusations. Most likely because it doesn't exist, and if by chance it did, what chance do you think those 2 great detectives would have of finding it? Holmes and Lestrade? more like Cleuseau and Deputy Dawg! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 17:49:19 GMT
I don't see Brexit as way the UK competes on any "new" level. More of a retreat, a push back, from the constraints that have been placed upon free market Capitalism. The shadow of Friedrich Hayek looms large, whose disciples were Reagan and Thatcher. This is why leavers hate Treaties like the one with the EU, rules based constraints are an anathema to them. Their great success has been to convince the general population that those rules constrained them, as individuals, when in fact they did no such thing. In America this manifests itself in the Trump phenomenon, a situation where people actually believe the State acts against them. As for you comment about shareholding, I struggle to believe that, but happy to be proven wrong. I expect you're quite excited that Britain, free of EU constraints, has authorised the new Covid vaccination and will start rolling it out almost immediately. It seems that our EU cousins, hamstrung by their various protocols, probably won't be able to do anything until at least January. I expect you're also quite cheered that the first people here to receive the vaccine will be health workers and the elderly and vulnerable. I have no doubt that you have been enormously cheered that, freed from EU regs, GB will almost immediately ban the export of live animals to the continent and elsewhere and also limit their time in transit across the UK. That's if you have any concern for animal welfare, of course. There you go Stuart, there's 2 EU laws I didn't like, and which will now be dispensed with. Cheer up chaps, 28 days until Freedom Day! Do me a favour. If you insist on quoting me directly, do so with a modicum of intelligence and not like silly child. Thanks |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 17:54:41 GMT
I expect you're quite excited that Britain, free of EU constraints, has authorised the new Covid vaccination and will start rolling it out almost immediately. It seems that our EU cousins, hamstrung by their various protocols, probably won't be able to do anything until at least January. I expect you're also quite cheered that the first people here to receive the vaccine will be health workers and the elderly and vulnerable. I have no doubt that you have been enormously cheered that, freed from EU regs, GB will almost immediately ban the export of live animals to the continent and elsewhere and also limit their time in transit across the UK. That's if you have any concern for animal welfare, of course. There you go Stuart, there's 2 EU laws I didn't like, and which will now be dispensed with. Cheer up chaps, 28 days until Freedom Day! You do understand that being in or out the EU has absolutely nothing to do with medicines approval? Not according to an article in today's Daily Telagraph, but I expect you know better than a professional journalist who would have checked, and had his story checked for accuracy before it was published. But I forget, in my fervent bubble of narrow-minded little Englader mindset, that the EU is nothing more than a benevolent organisation that assists everything we want to do and hands us untold billions every year without any question or requirement to justify. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 18:09:52 GMT
I expect you're quite excited that Britain, free of EU constraints, has authorised the new Covid vaccination and will start rolling it out almost immediately. It seems that our EU cousins, hamstrung by their various protocols, probably won't be able to do anything until at least January. I expect you're also quite cheered that the first people here to receive the vaccine will be health workers and the elderly and vulnerable. I have no doubt that you have been enormously cheered that, freed from EU regs, GB will almost immediately ban the export of live animals to the continent and elsewhere and also limit their time in transit across the UK. That's if you have any concern for animal welfare, of course. There you go Stuart, there's 2 EU laws I didn't like, and which will now be dispensed with. Cheer up chaps, 28 days until Freedom Day! Do me a favour. If you insist on quoting me directly, do so with a modicum of intelligence and not like silly child. Thanks Oh dear, it seems I may have touched a nerve. Is the silly child insult instead of, or in addition to the semi-literate man-child comment? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 18:33:16 GMT
Do me a favour. If you insist on quoting me directly, do so with a modicum of intelligence and not like silly child. Thanks Oh dear, it seems I may have touched a nerve. Is the silly child insult instead of, or in addition to the semi-literate man-child comment? Make it easy on yourself Don't quote me |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 19:45:04 GMT
Oh dear, it seems I may have touched a nerve. Is the silly child insult instead of, or in addition to the semi-literate man-child comment? Make it easy on yourself Don't quote me The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 3, 2020 19:48:41 GMT
Make it easy on yourself Don't quote me The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2020 19:50:14 GMT
The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? He just wants British Vespas |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 19:53:53 GMT
I will give you that. But you cannot state an opinion as if fact, then proceed to label an alternative opinion as "Marxist" (or whatever). But in reality, if we are discussing economics and/or political policy outcomes and if we just wander around the topic without any anchor to fact we end up in a wormhole of ridiculous position taking. Which triangulates nicely back to Oldgas because that describes him perfectly. As it does those that have run off into the sunset crying to their mother's about the unfairness of it. Almost impossible to engage with them, very odd. Oldie. Back on the thread, relatively. Did you know that 90% of the companies listed on the New York stock exchange are owned by just 3 companies? (Capitalism back to feudalism) You are quite in to finance and stuff. Do you see brexit being a vehicle for the UK to compete on this new level of capitalism? Well, as Oldie has told us on numerous occasions about his pan world business interests he must be associated with one of these mega companies that dominate the NY stock exchange. We really are blessed that he finds the time away from running the world to post on here. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2020 20:03:52 GMT
Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? He just wants British Ve**** How peculiar |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 20:08:29 GMT
He just wants British Ve**** How peculiar Even more peculiar is that you appear to have started talking to yourself. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2020 20:18:41 GMT
Even more peculiar is that you appear to have started talking to yourself. Yes I do, don't I |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 3, 2020 20:30:24 GMT
The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? Whilst you’re here Oldgas  |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 20:31:33 GMT
You do understand that being in or out the EU has absolutely nothing to do with medicines approval? Not according to an article in today's Daily Telagraph, but I expect you know better than a professional journalist who would have checked, and had his story checked for accuracy before it was published. But I forget, in my fervent bubble of narrow-minded little Englader mindset, that the EU is nothing more than a benevolent organisation that assists everything we want to do and hands us untold billions every year without any question or requirement to justify. Go on then, send me the article. I literally have no idea what your 2nd sentence is about, but thanks for posting. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 20:34:40 GMT
The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? I would like for us to have frictionless trade and a sensible compromise on fishing, one which recognises our sovereignty and our right to allocate fishing quotas. I would also like the EU to recognise us as a Sovereign nation, and to not demand we follow their rules on state aid, level playing fields etc. They don't demand this of any other nation they have trade agreements with, they have to recognise we are a free country. I would also like us to be free from the ECHR so we can introduce our own bill of rights and tailor it to make it possible to deport people we don't want without those ambulance chasing vampires constantly thwarting the Home Sc every time he or she tries to deport some piece of murdering scum. I also feel it's ridiculous that we will allow EU nationals to stay here 6 months without a visa while the reciprocation is only 90 days. I've no doubt that our National Health will be free to their people while Brits will have to have health insurance. So even with a deal there will be inequalities, but if any deal is loaded too much in the EUs favour then we should leave and deny them any fishing rights etc and levy the same quotas as they do. Having had a referendum where the majority voted to leave we have to regain our independence, and if that means no deal, so be it. Things will sort themselves out and I'm sure a deal will be reached in time under those circumstances. There's no reason this country should allow itself to be dictated to by France and Germany in the main, which is what they want to do. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 20:35:25 GMT
Yes, something that Gassy, 365 et al seem incapable of answering. 365 seems to have taken a sabbatical, whilst Gassy has resorted to bullshit, bluster and bluff rather than present the evidence that will apparently vindicate the monk-like 365's accusations. Most likely because it doesn't exist, and if by chance it did, what chance do you think those 2 great detectives would have of finding it? Holmes and Lestrade? more like Cleuseau and Deputy Dawg! I have nothing to answer, you haven't asked me anything either. Thats twice in 2 days now you've tried to call me out for ignoring questions that you don't ask. I absolutely love that you think I am some how responsible for your discussion with 365, it's rather hilarious seeing you get so wound up going round in circles confusing yourself yet again. Round and round and round and round and round again. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 3, 2020 20:43:05 GMT
Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? I would like for us to have frictionless trade and a sensible compromise on fishing, one which recognises our sovereignty and our right to allocate fishing quotas. I would also like the EU to recognise us as a Sovereign nation, and to not demand we follow their rules on state aid, level playing fields etc. They don't demand this of any other nation they have trade agreements with, they have to recognise we are a free country. I would also like us to be free from the ECHR so we can introduce our own bill of rights and tailor it to make it possible to deport people we don't want without those ambulance chasing vampires constantly thwarting the Home Sc every time he or she tries to deport some piece of murdering scum. I also feel it's ridiculous that we will allow EU nationals to stay here 6 months without a visa while the reciprocation is only 90 days. I've no doubt that our National Health will be free to their people while Brits will have to have health insurance. So even with a deal there will be inequalities, but if any deal is loaded too much in the EUs favour then we should leave and deny them any fishing rights etc and levy the same quotas as they do. Having had a referendum where the majority voted to leave we have to regain our independence, and if that means no deal, so be it. Things will sort themselves out and I'm sure a deal will be reached in time under those circumstances. There's no reason this country should allow itself to be dictated to by France and Germany in the main, which is what they want to do. Frictionless trade went out the window the day we left. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 20:49:34 GMT
Even more peculiar is that you appear to have started talking to yourself. Yes I do, don't I You've just altered the author there. Is that something only mods can do? How very George Orwell. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 20:56:04 GMT
Yes, something that Gassy, 365 et al seem incapable of answering. 365 seems to have taken a sabbatical, whilst Gassy has resorted to bullshit, bluster and bluff rather than present the evidence that will apparently vindicate the monk-like 365's accusations. Most likely because it doesn't exist, and if by chance it did, what chance do you think those 2 great detectives would have of finding it? Holmes and Lestrade? more like Cleuseau and Deputy Dawg! I have nothing to answer, you haven't asked me anything either. Thats twice in 2 days now you've tried to call me out for ignoring questions that you don't ask. I absolutely love that you think I am some how responsible for your discussion with 365, it's rather hilarious seeing you get so wound up going round in circles confusing yourself yet again. Round and round and round and round and round again. Don't we just. However, as you haven't got a leg to stand on you're just making yourself look a bit silly. Best leave it while you've got a shred of respect and pride left. 28 days until you're finally free. There's no need to thank us. |
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