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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2020 20:57:47 GMT
You've just altered the author there. Is that something only mods can do? How very George Orwell. I'm not a mod on this board. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 3, 2020 21:01:28 GMT
Not according to an article in today's Daily Telagraph, but I expect you know better than a professional journalist who would have checked, and had his story checked for accuracy before it was published. But I forget, in my fervent bubble of narrow-minded little Englader mindset, that the EU is nothing more than a benevolent organisation that assists everything we want to do and hands us untold billions every year without any question or requirement to justify. Go on then, send me the article. I literally have no idea what your 2nd sentence is about, but thanks for posting. Behind a paywall so I doubt it can be published without permission, and in any case I don't care if you don't believe me, but it's there if you want to be bothered to sign up for a months free trial. As for my second paragraph, best not to worry your tender head, you obviously don't do irony. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 3, 2020 22:16:57 GMT
Oldgas , you’re going to be really disappointed 😞
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Post by yattongas on Dec 3, 2020 22:18:17 GMT
Oldgas , you’re going to be really disappointed 😞 . But at the same time you’ll claim you’ve won . Such is life 😃 |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 22:55:01 GMT
Go on then, send me the article. I literally have no idea what your 2nd sentence is about, but thanks for posting. Behind a paywall so I doubt it can be published without permission, and in any case I don't care if you don't believe me, but it's there if you want to be bothered to sign up for a months free trial. As for my second paragraph, best not to worry your tender head, you obviously don't do irony. Post it here, i'll sign up for a free trial. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 22:56:26 GMT
I have nothing to answer, you haven't asked me anything either. Thats twice in 2 days now you've tried to call me out for ignoring questions that you don't ask. I absolutely love that you think I am some how responsible for your discussion with 365, it's rather hilarious seeing you get so wound up going round in circles confusing yourself yet again. Round and round and round and round and round again. Don't we just. However, as you haven't got a leg to stand on you're just making yourself look a bit silly. Best leave it while you've got a shred of respect and pride left. 28 days until you're finally free. There's no need to thank us. You're genuinely not making sense. I'm actually getting a bit worried for you, are you ok? |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 3, 2020 22:57:47 GMT
You've just altered the author there. Is that something only mods can do? How very George Orwell. I'm not a mod on this board.  |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 4, 2020 7:21:22 GMT
Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? I would like for us to have frictionless trade and a sensible compromise on fishing, one which recognises our sovereignty and our right to allocate fishing quotas. I would also like the EU to recognise us as a Sovereign nation, and to not demand we follow their rules on state aid, level playing fields etc. They don't demand this of any other nation they have trade agreements with, they have to recognise we are a free country. I would also like us to be free from the ECHR so we can introduce our own bill of rights and tailor it to make it possible to deport people we don't want without those ambulance chasing vampires constantly thwarting the Home Sc every time he or she tries to deport some piece of murdering scum. I also feel it's ridiculous that we will allow EU nationals to stay here 6 months without a visa while the reciprocation is only 90 days. I've no doubt that our National Health will be free to their people while Brits will have to have health insurance. So even with a deal there will be inequalities, but if any deal is loaded too much in the EUs favour then we should leave and deny them any fishing rights etc and levy the same quotas as they do. Having had a referendum where the majority voted to leave we have to regain our independence, and if that means no deal, so be it. Things will sort themselves out and I'm sure a deal will be reached in time under those circumstances. There's no reason this country should allow itself to be dictated to by France and Germany in the main, which is what they want to do. I am sure i dont have to explain the day we left/leave we gave up everything. We did though sign a WA (One Johnson praised from the roof tops) and political declaration to work to a common goal within the WA framework. Of course Boris and co have tried to bin the bit they now dont like I suspect the EU may conceed on the 90 days (the standard rules) although all we ever hear about is fishing from the UK, so who knows if 'we' are even asking for it The fact that we are allowing 180 is the sovereignty you wanted though. Fishing is just a jingoistic, poster policy they think looks good to the punter on the street, when all the facts point to how small a thing it really is, and what the EU knows is how much we sell to them. Of course they will play hard ball on this. On fish, we need them, more than they need us Unfortunately frictionless trade is 99.9999% done for good unless we rejoin, but you know that. You simply cannot have it and the EU simply cannot allow it But you know all this. You are an intelligent person and you knew what you were voting for |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 14:37:16 GMT
Almost impossible to engage with them, very odd. Oldie. Back on the thread, relatively. Did you know that 90% of the companies listed on the New York stock exchange are owned by just 3 companies? (Capitalism back to feudalism) You are quite in to finance and stuff. Do you see brexit being a vehicle for the UK to compete on this new level of capitalism? I don't see Brexit as way the UK competes on any "new" level. More of a retreat, a push back, from the constraints that have been placed upon free market Capitalism. The shadow of Friedrich Hayek looms large, whose disciples were Reagan and Thatcher. This is why leavers hate Treaties like the one with the EU, rules based constraints are an anathema to them. Their great success has been to convince the general population that those rules constrained them, as individuals, when in fact they did no such thing. In America this manifests itself in the Trump phenomenon, a situation where people actually believe the State acts against them. As for you comment about shareholding, I struggle to believe that, but happy to be proven wrong. Return to feudalism, albiet an attempt at a tech one, a last ditch attempt to copy the modern US economy model. Prefer Selma Hayek, but need to bump Fred up my never ending reading list (obviously I have read critiques of him) |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 4, 2020 17:42:05 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk.
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 4, 2020 18:22:33 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk. They would do it just because they can,a long history of being lady gardens! ! |
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Post by francegas on Dec 4, 2020 18:56:40 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk. They would do it just because they can,a long history of being lady gardens! ! Why does that not surprise me. Didn't de Gaulle veto UK membership to the EEC twice in the 1960s. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 19:17:02 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk. Not Oldgas... |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 4, 2020 19:37:43 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk. You like the idea that France might veto the deal thrashed over the last tortuous months? That'll teach those pesky Leavers. If we could have delayed the vote by a few more months a lot more of the old bastards would have been dead and we'd have got away with it. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 4, 2020 19:40:57 GMT
A bad deal for France? But isn't that the idea of the EU, of which they are founding members that it's not for the benefit of the one but for the benefit of the many? And this is why we need to get out. Why we're getting out. 27 days to Freedom Day. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 4, 2020 19:49:19 GMT
The Walker Brothers. why would not quoting you make it easy for me? Oops, I've just done it again. Will the heavens fall in on me. Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? Since you asked the question and I went to the trouble of answering it, see previous page, what do you think of my answer? Or are you and your mates gonna spend the next few posts altering the context of my reply, ridicule and take the water? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 19:53:50 GMT
France might veto the Brexit deal because it's not good for them as a sovereign nation....imagine, having the power to assert your sovereignty when you're in the EU? Who'da thunk. You like the idea that France might veto the deal thrashed over the last tortuous months? That'll teach those pesky Leavers. If we could have delayed the vote by a few more months a lot more of the old bastards would have been dead and we'd have got away with it. Just to prove it.. Whooosh |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 19:56:39 GMT
Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? Since you asked the question and I went to the trouble of answering it, see previous page, what do you think of my answer? Or are you and your mates gonna spend the next few posts altering the context of my reply, ridicule and take the Wee wee? None of the above. Your reply was an inane ramble typical the demented. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 4, 2020 20:04:03 GMT
Oldgas , what are you hoping for from this deal or are you a pure brexiteer and you don’t want a deal ? Since you asked the question and I went to the trouble of answering it, see previous page, what do you think of my answer? Or are you and your mates gonna spend the next few posts altering the context of my reply, ridicule and take the Wee wee? I read it . Thought it was a load of bollox . Happy now ? |
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