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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 11, 2020 11:19:23 GMT
Help me here, is the language used different to what Boris is saying? Misinterpretation or possible fudge? Sounds like they are being sensibly flexible and exposing Johnson and his rhetoric That was my take, too. Looking at Robert Peston's twitter last night he referenced a Times article written by Allegra Stratton's husband who also happens to be Rishi Sunak's best mate. He thought none of the issues raised were actually issues and wondered if it was part of the PR, ready for Boris to 'save the day'. Mind you, he's changed opinions several times. |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 11, 2020 11:21:45 GMT
Help me here, is the language used different to what Boris is saying? Misinterpretation or possible fudge? Sounds like they are being sensibly flexible and exposing Johnson and his rhetoric There's a bit missed out in the quote " there will be a price to pay etc etc " Which puts an entirely different slant on it,wish the dear old Beeb wouldn't be so selective. |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 11, 2020 11:26:02 GMT
Sounds like they are being sensibly flexible and exposing Johnson and his rhetoric That was my take, too. Looking at Robert Peston's twitter last night he referenced a Times article written by Allegra Stratton's husband who also happens to be Rishi Sunak's best mate. He thought none of the issues raised were actually issues and wondered if it was part of the PR, ready for Boris to 'save the day'. Mind you, he's changed opinions several times. Stuart as I just posted you need to read the whole bit as what KA has posted is misleading. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 12:04:29 GMT
That was my take, too. Looking at Robert Peston's twitter last night he referenced a Times article written by Allegra Stratton's husband who also happens to be Rishi Sunak's best mate. He thought none of the issues raised were actually issues and wondered if it was part of the PR, ready for Boris to 'save the day'. Mind you, he's changed opinions several times. Stuart as I just posted you need to read the whole bit as what KA has posted is misleading. The price being what? Peanuts |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 11, 2020 12:21:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 12:35:38 GMT
Thought it worth highlighting this bit Gassy "There are many people whom it is possible to blame for the shambles that Brexit has become: quisling traitors, remoaners, deep-state operatives, incompetent politicians, high court judges, so-called ‘experts’, academics…the list goes on. However, there is one group who it would be unreasonable to expect to bear any responsibility whatsoever for the consequences of their actions: the people who actually voted for all of this." PRECISELY |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 12:40:08 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 11, 2020 13:10:02 GMT
Stuart as I just posted you need to read the whole bit as what KA has posted is misleading. The price being what? Peanuts Who knows |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 13:18:16 GMT
Thought it worth highlighting this bit Gassy "There are many people whom it is possible to blame for the shambles that Brexit has become: quisling traitors, remoaners, deep-state operatives, incompetent politicians, high court judges, so-called ‘experts’, academics…the list goes on. However, there is one group who it would be unreasonable to expect to bear any responsibility whatsoever for the consequences of their actions: the people who actually voted for all of this." PRECISELY He said: “From January 1st we will be moving to an Antarctica-style deal with the EU, trading with it on the same terms as that noble continent. “So now is the moment to liquidate your business, put your savings into gold, stock up on non-perishable food, fill the bath with drinking water and nail plywood over the windows.” I actually read that in my head in Boris’s tone and cadence and it didn’t even sound like satire. Why do I get the feeling there will be a New Year’s Day address where he pretty much says exactly that.... |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 11, 2020 13:24:24 GMT
Sounds like they are being sensibly flexible and exposing Johnson and his rhetoric There's a bit missed out in the quote " there will be a price to pay etc etc " Which puts an entirely different slant on it,wish the dear old Beeb wouldn't be so selective. Is that part of the same speech? www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-55271914?__twitter_impression=true |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 11, 2020 13:40:17 GMT
It's in the piece on the BBC News site where the first bit is shown followed by the sentence "then she added...... |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 11, 2020 13:57:39 GMT
It's in the piece on the BBC News site where the first bit is shown followed by the sentence "then she added...... I couldn't find that, I did see this bit (my quotation marks). "But if the UK decided to go its own way on some rules, there would be a price to pay with possible tariffs, she added." Moot point, but that bit isn't actually in "" so isn't a direct quote. The bit after "she added" is then in "" which appears to be the linked paragraph and is from the video footage. Not for me to lecture the BBC on correct use of punctuation.😀 Anyway, that's beside the point. As soon as we diverge then access to each other's markets will become trickier. The job of those in charge is to find some middle ground, otherwise we all lose. Time for some statesmanship. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 14:19:02 GMT
It's in the piece on the BBC News site where the first bit is shown followed by the sentence "then she added...... I couldn't find that, I did see this bit (my quotation marks). "But if the UK decided to go its own way on some rules, there would be a price to pay with possible tariffs, she added." Moot point, but that bit isn't actually in "" so isn't a direct quote. The bit after "she added" is then in "" which appears to be the linked paragraph and is from the video footage. Not for me to lecture the BBC on correct use of punctuation.😀 Anyway, that's beside the point. As soon as we diverge then access to each other's markets will become trickier. The job of those in charge is to find some middle ground, otherwise we all lose. Time for some statesmanship. Exactly Yes please, instead of the spoilt, entitled prick that he is. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 17:49:27 GMT
Racist media having a normal one...
Shouldn't give them the oxygen but they are rapidly suffocating anyway.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 11, 2020 18:27:11 GMT
Racist media having a normal one... Shouldn't give them the oxygen but they are rapidly suffocating anyway. My god it's honestly embarrassing that this is a level of journalism. Never mind that an elected official is actually trying to use the wars as a reason to why we should be able to negotiate directly with Germany, by passing the EU. It's honestly embarrassing. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2020 18:37:34 GMT
Racist media having a normal one... Shouldn't give them the oxygen but they are rapidly suffocating anyway. My god it's honestly embarrassing that this is a level of journalism. Never mind that an elected official is actually trying to use the wars as a reason to why we should be able to negotiate directly with Germany, by passing the EU. It's honestly embarrassing. The right wing tabloids ( owned by billionaires) are a major reason we’re going down this sh**ty road . Such a shame the readership haven’t got the intelligence to realise what they’re reading is normally racist lying bullshit . Ps where is our friend Oldgas ? |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 11, 2020 19:05:03 GMT
My god it's honestly embarrassing that this is a level of journalism. Never mind that an elected official is actually trying to use the wars as a reason to why we should be able to negotiate directly with Germany, by passing the EU. It's honestly embarrassing. The right wing tabloids ( owned by billionaires) are a major reason we’re going down this sh**ty road . Such a shame the readership haven’t got the intelligence to realise what they’re reading is normally racist lying bullshit . Ps where is our friend Oldgas ? Seems to go in this order: 1. Bad WUM 2. Get offensive & abusive 3. Play the victim 4. Actual decent debate and some interesting points 5. Bit of time off 6. Repeat Right now we're in between 3 & 4 IMO. Step 5 mate |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 11, 2020 19:11:53 GMT
My god it's honestly embarrassing that this is a level of journalism. Never mind that an elected official is actually trying to use the wars as a reason to why we should be able to negotiate directly with Germany, by passing the EU. It's honestly embarrassing. The right wing tabloids ( owned by billionaires) are a major reason we’re going down this sh**ty road . Such a shame the readership haven’t got the intelligence to realise what they’re reading is normally racist lying bullshit . Ps where is our friend Oldgas ? I assume Oldgas is just shopping for his sparkling wine and cheddar to celebrate freedom |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2020 23:38:27 GMT
My god it's honestly embarrassing that this is a level of journalism. Never mind that an elected official is actually trying to use the wars as a reason to why we should be able to negotiate directly with Germany, by passing the EU. It's honestly embarrassing. The right wing tabloids ( owned by billionaires) are a major reason we’re going down this sh**ty road . Such a shame the readership haven’t got the intelligence to realise what they’re reading is normally racist lying bullshit . Ps where is our friend Oldgas ? Watching #skypapers tonight and the looking at the right wing papers headlines in tomorrow’s papers about bloody fish & warships ...... this country is off its head . |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 12, 2020 9:45:00 GMT
The right wing tabloids ( owned by billionaires) are a major reason we’re going down this sh**ty road . Such a shame the readership haven’t got the intelligence to realise what they’re reading is normally racist lying bullshit . Ps where is our friend Oldgas ? Watching #skypapers tonight and the looking at the right wing papers headlines in tomorrow’s papers about bloody fish & warships ...... this country is off its head . Ah were going to rerun the 1970s Icelandic Cod Wars,nothing like a bit of jingoism at the start of a New Year!!. |
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