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Post by trevorgas on Dec 26, 2020 19:44:55 GMT
Erasmus replaced just announced by the DOE, £100m to support Students who wish to take advantage anywhere in the World,called the Turing scheme after Alan Turing. Like everything in life Gassy I think we will move on and support programmes that are mutually beneficial if we canI see this agreement as a starting point not a finish , the GDP forecast is a forecast so we will have to wait and see. Let's see if our Business sector can be dynamic and grab the opportunities elsewhere my sense is we've grown complacent in the EU,time to shake ourselves out of that. Great for the kids of hard up families, instead of popping across to France or other EU countries by car or on the train they can fork out and get a plane ticket to the other side of the world to study . Another win 🇬🇧 It's World wide and I assume that will include EU Countries. |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 26, 2020 19:49:04 GMT
Erasmus replaced just announced by the DOE, £100m to support Students who wish to take advantage anywhere in the World,called the Turing scheme after Alan Turing. Like everything in life Gassy I think we will move on and support programmes that are mutually beneficial if we canI see this agreement as a starting point not a finish , the GDP forecast is a forecast so we will have to wait and see. Let's see if our Business sector can be dynamic and grab the opportunities elsewhere my sense is we've grown complacent in the EU,time to shake ourselves out of that. So after pledging we’d stay in and all this extra money we’re not sending to the EU ..... Boris is to give £100 million to Turing scheme but before it was 100s of millions for Erasmus . This is obvs another win 🇬🇧 The point with Erasmus is that our funding was for the Scheme not just our kids,so it funded kids from all other EU Countries whereas this will be for our kids only,so the amount has been determined to fund those kids from the UK who wish to participate. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 26, 2020 19:51:41 GMT
Erasmus replaced just announced by the DOE, £100m to support Students who wish to take advantage anywhere in the World,called the Turing scheme after Alan Turing. Like everything in life Gassy I think we will move on and support programmes that are mutually beneficial if we canI see this agreement as a starting point not a finish , the GDP forecast is a forecast so we will have to wait and see. Let's see if our Business sector can be dynamic and grab the opportunities elsewhere my sense is we've grown complacent in the EU,time to shake ourselves out of that. Great for the kids of hard up families, instead of popping across to France or other EU countries by car or on the train they can fork out and get a plane ticket to the other side of the world to study . Another win 🇬🇧 I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost count of the number of kids from poor families who spent their time travelling around and studying in Europe. And you’re the guy who’s expended so much energy saying how unimportant the British Fishing Industry is! Coming next, Yatton spends six weeks moaning because EU subsidies for the European Tiddly Winks league is to be stopped, meaning the Tunbridge Wells Allstars will no longer be able to compete in far-flung places around Central and Eastern Europe. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 26, 2020 19:53:01 GMT
And on the opposite view, when I lived in mainland Europe - I never showed my passport unless I left the Schengen zone. Seems odd because I've flown several times from France to Italy and had to show a passport every time. Also drove from France into Switzerland (no one at the border going) however on the way back got into hot water as there was a presence at border checking passports and I didn't have mine on me. Live in France and driving a French registered car didn't think I'd need it driving to Switzerland. How wrong I was ! Passports i think is more down to the extra time. As part of the EU there is a cursory check., Now UK passport holders will be in the other queues and asked what the purpose of their visit to Benidorm is |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 19:59:00 GMT
Goodness me.
The culture of xenophobia is alive and well, as witnessed on this thread.
The barbarians have truly over run us.
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde,
"Some go from youth to old age without any intervening period of maturity and assimilation of knowledge"
Guess prizes for guessing who.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 26, 2020 20:03:36 GMT
Great for the kids of hard up families, instead of popping across to France or other EU countries by car or on the train they can fork out and get a plane ticket to the other side of the world to study . Another win 🇬🇧 I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost count of the number of kids from poor families who spent their time travelling around and studying in Europe. And you’re the guy who’s expended so much energy saying how unimportant the British Fishing Industry is! Coming next, Yatton spends six weeks moaning because EU subsidies for the European Tiddly Winks league is to be stopped, meaning the Tunbridge Wells Allstars will no longer be able to compete in far-flung places around Central and Eastern Europe. The point is Erasmus is reciprocal. People come here to study as well. That has to be factoresd into any cost benefit analysis. What will be the cost benefit to only financing UK students (if that is what Turing does) to study abroad |
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Post by francegas on Dec 26, 2020 20:14:34 GMT
Seems odd because I've flown several times from France to Italy and had to show a passport every time. Also drove from France into Switzerland (no one at the border going) however on the way back got into hot water as there was a presence at border checking passports and I didn't have mine on me. Live in France and driving a French registered car didn't think I'd need it driving to Switzerland. How wrong I was ! Passports i think is more down to the extra time. As part of the EU there is a cursory check., Now UK passport holders will be in the other queues and asked what the purpose of their visit to Benidorm is Agreed but is that any different to the 1000s of brits who travel to the US Australia, New Zealand etc who are questioned about the purpose of their visit. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 20:43:44 GMT
Passports i think is more down to the extra time. As part of the EU there is a cursory check., Now UK passport holders will be in the other queues and asked what the purpose of their visit to Benidorm is Agreed but is that any different to the 1000s of brits who travel to the US Australia, New Zealand etc who are questioned about the purpose of their visit. None. But that's the point isn't it. When I was travelling for work purposes in Europe I was never questioned about the purpose of my visit, my eligibility to undertake business operations in the countries and never asked how long I was staying. More often than not, with my British Passport in view I was waived through. Genuine question. What happens now if I want to set up a registered subsidiary of UK LTD company...can I just walk in and do that, without constraint? With me as controlling shareholder and director? |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 26, 2020 22:08:51 GMT
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve lost count of the number of kids from poor families who spent their time travelling around and studying in Europe. And you’re the guy who’s expended so much energy saying how unimportant the British Fishing Industry is! Coming next, Yatton spends six weeks moaning because EU subsidies for the European Tiddly Winks league is to be stopped, meaning the Tunbridge Wells Allstars will no longer be able to compete in far-flung places around Central and Eastern Europe. The point is Erasmus is reciprocal. People come here to study as well. That has to be factoresd into any cost benefit analysis. What will be the cost benefit to only financing UK students (if that is what Turing does) to study abroad Yes, I know that, I was just bantering Yatton. I do wonder how many people take advantage of this scheme, and is it free? Seems a bit unfair when our young people stay in UK for their university education and end up with around £30k student loan debt. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 26, 2020 22:11:50 GMT
Agreed but is that any different to the 1000s of brits who travel to the US Australia, New Zealand etc who are questioned about the purpose of their visit. None. But that's the point isn't it. When I was travelling for work purposes in Europe I was never questioned about the purpose of my visit, my eligibility to undertake business operations in the countries and never asked how long I was staying. More often than not, with my British Passport in view I was waived through. Genuine question. What happens now if I want to set up a registered subsidiary of UK LTD company...can I just walk in and do that, without constraint? With me as controlling shareholder and director? Wow, so you have Conducted business in the USA, India and now we discover Europe-wide. One has to wonder what you’re doing wasting your time on this inconsequential little forum. Haven't you got a multi-million pound deal you should be closing somewhere? |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 27, 2020 7:16:04 GMT
Boris Johnson has written in the Telegraph. Will be interesting to see what is meant by this
He said a "great government effort" had gone into the plans, with animal welfare, data and chemicals being areas where the UK could diverge from EU standards.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 9:33:17 GMT
Boris Johnson has written in the Telegraph. Will be interesting to see what is meant by this He said a "great government effort" had gone into the plans, with animal welfare, data and chemicals being areas where the UK could diverge from EU standards. As has been said, when the details are in the public domain the truth will out. Top line reading says that a part of the UK is still in the customs union. How bizarre |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 27, 2020 9:44:14 GMT
Boris Johnson has written in the Telegraph. Will be interesting to see what is meant by this He said a "great government effort" had gone into the plans, with animal welfare, data and chemicals being areas where the UK could diverge from EU standards. As has been said, when the details are in the public domain the truth will out. Top line reading says that a part of the UK is still in the customs union. How bizarre Isn't that Northern Ireland? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 10:13:03 GMT
As has been said, when the details are in the public domain the truth will out. Top line reading says that a part of the UK is still in the customs union. How bizarre Isn't that Northern Ireland? Yes Clive That's my current understanding. They will be in the Customs Union and subject to ECJ judicial oversight on trade issues. I have no idea why the Unionists are not screaming blue murder over this, after the fuss they kicked up previously. Which leads to the question as to whether this is now an open path to a united Ireland. Pragmatic economics over rabid, arcane, religious divide. Let's hope so. But of course, who then could deny Scotland the same? |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 27, 2020 10:19:56 GMT
Isn't that Northern Ireland? Yes Clive That's my current understanding. They will be in the Customs Union and subject to ECJ judicial oversight on trade issues. I have no idea why the Unionists are not screaming blue murder over this, after the fuss they kicked up previously. Which leads to the question as to whether this is now an open path to a united Ireland. Pragmatic economics over rabid, arcane, religious divide. Let's hope so. But of course, who then could deny Scotland the same? I agree,if you look at the demographic shift,there is now a majority Catholic population and my guess is any referendum will result in a yes vote for unification, no bad thing as long as we don't see a resurgence in Unionists violence. As for Scotland who knows . |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 27, 2020 10:34:31 GMT
This will be the break up of the union , N Ireland will reunite with Ireland and Scotland will go its own way.
Shame but these are the consequences I guess.
I’m sure this is another win for us and our resident racist Oldgas will be along shortly to explain how .
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Post by oldgas on Dec 27, 2020 10:45:31 GMT
This will be the break up of the union , N Ireland will reunite with Ireland and Scotland will go its own way. Shame but these are the consequences I guess. I’m sure this is another win for us and our resident racist Oldgas will be along shortly to explain how . 🇬🇧 Twat. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 27, 2020 11:02:09 GMT
Oooh the snowflake is upset 😭
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 27, 2020 11:25:39 GMT
This will be the break up of the union , N Ireland will reunite with Ireland and Scotland will go its own way. Shame but these are the consequences I guess. I’m sure this is another win for us and our resident racist Oldgas will be along shortly to explain how . 🇬🇧 Scotland will be interesting as there will be no auto readmission to the EU and Spain in particular will be very against as they don't want a precedent set for Basque independence. The Scots will have to consider very carefully the pros/cons of Independence as it's not cut and dried. The challenge will be who will lead the pro Union group,Gordon Brown ,it could never be a Tory and a bit like the EU referendum will facts be thin on the ground. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 11:38:50 GMT
This will be the break up of the union , N Ireland will reunite with Ireland and Scotland will go its own way. Shame but these are the consequences I guess. I’m sure this is another win for us and our resident racist Oldgas will be along shortly to explain how . 🇬🇧 Scotland will be interesting as there will be no auto readmission to the EU and Spain in particular will be very against as they don't want a precedent set for Basque independence. The Scots will have to consider very carefully the pros/cons of Independence as it's not cut and dried. The challenge will be who will lead the pro Union group,Gordon Brown ,it could never be a Tory and a bit like the EU referendum will facts be thin on the ground. The thing is Clive, if the reading of the NI position is accurate, then there is now precedent for admitting Scotland into the Customs Union, accepting the jurisdiction of the ECJ and then perhaps the Single Market. That most likely is all they would want economically. That would be a huge stepping stone to full independence. A rather funny consequence of a policy and treaty purpatrated by the Conservative and Unionist Party. Especially and rather deliciously, as their supporters and leave voters were baying at the moon over "sovereignty" (Excluding you, obviously) |
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