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Post by South Stand Ultra on Sept 15, 2018 17:30:35 GMT
"We sold Billy Bodin and brought in so called big name players" Who are these so called big name players? First I've heard of these. Well I bet Bennett's on a lot more money than we were paying Billy and I would not be surprised if Payne is on more than we were paying Ellis. Omg! Again? I didn't say anything about wages, I said who are the big name signings! |
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Post by twertonboy on Sept 15, 2018 17:32:24 GMT
Just on train back. Waste of time. Who’s was the sh** defensive header leading to their goal? I had a girder in the way This ain’t gonna be popular but I don’t care, How has Lockyers sh**e distribution not improved one iota in the last 5 years? I literally have no idea how he is getting picked for the wales squad on these performances Secondly, James Clarke is not good enough for this division. The slowest, most predictable player we have in the team. The aforementioned girder was quicker than Clarke today. This needs changing if we are to ever improve. Bonham earnt his wages today, fantastic performance but let’s not kid ourselves , Luton deserved to win that comfortably. This doesn’t feel like a DC team anymore, I’m slowly losing interest Spot on |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Sept 15, 2018 17:33:16 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Their playing like they don’t believe in the managers decisions and older players like lines etc who played in teams with Taylor and bodin know their playing with weak replacements... Payne isn’t the answer...shrews fans were saying how lazy he can be and he’s got a bad attitude...on his first interview when asked what will he bring he said “big tackles”  He’s league 2 standard Nichols needs to be sold before he goes on a free or devalues so much we get zero for him... Upson looks completely lost and has no effect on the game Sercombe looks watered off from playing left wing all the time Mensah looks a complete waste of money Craig is a joke to me and another Liam Lawrence singing just collecting his wages...if he was any good there’s enough London teams that would have come in for him when we got him on a free James Clarke is league 2 at best and needs to go Leads doesn’t look the player without billy in front of him... Lockyer needs to go and get the best price for him Smith is a very bad signing and I dread seeing his name on the sheet Lee brown/Rory gaffney must be so much happier now they’ve left and we really miss them to be honest... If this rovers team played the rovers team of 2015 they would take a drumming... We’ll be lucky to get 7000 at games within a month of this performances "To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? |
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Post by brightonpirate on Sept 15, 2018 17:35:27 GMT
That was not an interview by a manager in control of affairs. It was amateurish and poorly thought out. To rubbish most of the players, particularly with regard to their attitude, whilst probably deserved, when spoken in a public forum will do little to motivate anyone. These scathing remarks need to stay private. Projecting his anger at the situation on to the players for all to hear smacks of someone who is running out of ideas. DC acknowledged he brought the players to the club, so his judgement is in question. Connor Roberts was evidently not good enough. DC is now a well qualified coach who the club needs. But we need a manager to bring the best out of him and the players IMO.
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Post by justin blue on Sept 15, 2018 17:35:55 GMT
Well the good news is that defensively we seem a lot better than prev seasons and are not shipping goals like first half of last two seasons, today was a case in point as it could have been a right old hammering!look to have solved g/k issue and now have a proper l/b as far as defending goes.every game i have been to or listened to has been the same (Portsmouth excepted)no passion ,spark ,or creativity, no comradely among players, that Ellis, Bodin, and Browner supplied, we are missing that as well as there skills.My own view is that which ever 4 or 5 players are selected twixt the back 4 and the front 1 or 2 are not creating anything for who ever plays up front .Cant really blame strikers for not scoring , its not as if they are missing a shed load of chances , they just aren't getting any to miss(Nicholls is exempted from this exemption as he has had more than enough chances to prove us all wrong). D/C needs to change something soon, Sercs coming back may help as may Parts , even the beard might shake things up! other than that give youth a chance eg Russe. Baghdadi,to name two , DC for your own sake you have to change the dynamics of the team else we will sleep walk to league 2!No i am not calling for his head and wont even if the worst happened , as i believe he has earned the right to a bad year and the chance to recover our status, but after match interviews 'not good enough , dust down etc ,etc and pre match 'good week on training ground and ready to go again' are beginning to be tiresome! cos nothing is changing and it has to soon! come on Gas and Gas eds we are better than this , up the Rovers! Good constructive post though I don't share your view regarding defense. The defending looks desperate and not as composed as previous years. This may be due to the extra pressure of not having players to respond if we concede. Partington and Sercs can only improve things, |
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Post by twertonboy on Sept 15, 2018 17:37:07 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Their playing like they don’t believe in the managers decisions and older players like lines etc who played in teams with Taylor and bodin know their playing with weak replacements... Payne isn’t the answer...shrews fans were saying how lazy he can be and he’s got a bad attitude...on his first interview when asked what will he bring he said “big tackles” He’s league 2 standard Nichols needs to be sold before he goes on a free or devalues so much we get zero for him... Upson looks completely lost and has no effect on the game Sercombe looks watered off from playing left wing all the time Mensah looks a complete waste of money Craig is a joke to me and another Liam Lawrence singing just collecting his wages...if he was any good there’s enough London teams that would have come in for him when we got him on a free James Clarke is league 2 at best and needs to go Leads doesn’t look the player without billy in front of him... Lockyer needs to go and get the best price for him Smith is a very bad signing and I dread seeing his name on the sheet Lee brown/Rory gaffney must be so much happier now they’ve left and we really miss them to be honest... If this rovers team played the rovers team of 2015 they would take a drumming... We’ll be lucky to get 7000 at games within a month of this performances "To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? The difference is he was doing it with players that were happy to be part of the squad and under achieving at the time We now have players that have been around the block and played under more experienced managers than dc and won’t put up with it or play to their best coming in and out or playing out of position.. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 15, 2018 17:37:36 GMT
Especially the same CB pairing Neither CB was to blame for our goal though, nor for the fact our attack couldn't muster one shot on target. how many chances did our so called midfield create for them ? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 15, 2018 17:38:34 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Their playing like they don’t believe in the managers decisions and older players like lines etc who played in teams with Taylor and bodin know their playing with weak replacements... Payne isn’t the answer...shrews fans were saying how lazy he can be and he’s got a bad attitude...on his first interview when asked what will he bring he said “big tackles” He’s league 2 standard Nichols needs to be sold before he goes on a free or devalues so much we get zero for him... Upson looks completely lost and has no effect on the game Sercombe looks watered off from playing left wing all the time Mensah looks a complete waste of money Craig is a joke to me and another Liam Lawrence singing just collecting his wages...if he was any good there’s enough London teams that would have come in for him when we got him on a free James Clarke is league 2 at best and needs to go Leads doesn’t look the player without billy in front of him... Lockyer needs to go and get the best price for him Smith is a very bad signing and I dread seeing his name on the sheet Lee brown/Rory gaffney must be so much happier now they’ve left and we really miss them to be honest... If this rovers team played the rovers team of 2015 they would take a drumming... We’ll be lucky to get 7000 at games within a month of this performances "To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? I get that and to some extent I'm with you but it feels to me like we have slowly eroded over the last few seasons as the old faithful crew left bit by bit. I dont know what comparing player in with player out would show, better or worse but it doesn't feel much like a team to me right now. I think this is the year DC goes to be honest and I think we could definitely be relegated. Turnarounds are quick though and we always start seasons badly so hopefully I'm off the mark. I wouldnt want DC to go either way but it won't be down to us. |
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 15, 2018 17:38:55 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Their playing like they don’t believe in the managers decisions and older players like lines etc who played in teams with Taylor and bodin know their playing with weak replacements... Payne isn’t the answer...shrews fans were saying how lazy he can be and he’s got a bad attitude...on his first interview when asked what will he bring he said “big tackles” He’s league 2 standard Nichols needs to be sold before he goes on a free or devalues so much we get zero for him... Upson looks completely lost and has no effect on the game Sercombe looks watered off from playing left wing all the time Mensah looks a complete waste of money Craig is a joke to me and another Liam Lawrence singing just collecting his wages...if he was any good there’s enough London teams that would have come in for him when we got him on a free James Clarke is league 2 at best and needs to go Leads doesn’t look the player without billy in front of him... Lockyer needs to go and get the best price for him Smith is a very bad signing and I dread seeing his name on the sheet Lee brown/Rory gaffney must be so much happier now they’ve left and we really miss them to be honest... If this rovers team played the rovers team of 2015 they would take a drumming... We’ll be lucky to get 7000 at games within a month of this performances "To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Thing is though...it’s all fine if the “chopping and changing” produces results. As it did back then. For whatever reason, now it isn’t and that surely breeds discontent. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Sept 15, 2018 17:39:41 GMT
"To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? The difference is he was doing it with players that were happy to be part of the squad and under achieving at the time We now have players that have been around the block and played under more experienced managers than dc and won’t put up with it or play to their best coming in and out or playing out of position.. So you think players sign up without knowing anything about how DC sets his sides up? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 15, 2018 17:44:04 GMT
"We sold Billy Bodin and brought in so called big name players" Who are these so called big name players? First I've heard of these. Well I bet Bennett's on a lot more money than we were paying Billy and I would not be surprised if Payne is on more than we were paying Ellis. Payne arrived this summer not last January, plus Bennett had his contract paid up by Pompey so I doubt we're paying him mega bucks on top of that. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 15, 2018 17:46:29 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Agree with some other of your full post but just wanted to reply to this. Don't believe he's lost the dressing room, but that the dressing room has changed a lot due to departures and arrivals, and the dynamic seems to have changed. Given that a lot of DC's success comes from the dressing room spirit, it is worrying. But let's be clear, Martin dobson didn't have the dressing room, and nor did Dave Penney - those were very different situations to just not having as much of a tight knit, positive group, as a mgr had before. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 15, 2018 17:50:30 GMT
The difference is he was doing it with players that were happy to be part of the squad and under achieving at the time We now have players that have been around the block and played under more experienced managers than dc and won’t put up with it or play to their best coming in and out or playing out of position.. So you think players sign up without knowing anything about how DC sets his sides up? Some will, some won't Footballers are human. Some are interested in research, formations, bigger picture etc. Some aren't. |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 15, 2018 17:57:52 GMT
Having watched 101 minutes of so called football on ifollow, i can safely say that was by far the worst performance by a Rovers team in the last 5 years and i include our relegation season to the National league Now you’re exaggerating because if it was that bad then I would be worried as well! 😭 Because there were quite a few crap games to choose from that relegation season. UTG! |
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Post by glengas on Sept 15, 2018 18:01:04 GMT
Confidence can play a big part in performance. We are missing Sercombe. However, i hope we are not reaching a point where player power starts taking over again. I won’t put up with players pulling on that shirt and not giving 100% whatever position they are asked to play. Billy Big Bollocks not welcome.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 15, 2018 18:12:29 GMT
Funny how a couple of weeks ago if someone put their OPINIONS on here about dc then you were called a shithead and get back down to trashton gate...now it’s 80% moaning about him... To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room... I personally felt that it was going that way last year and with the new additions it’s got worse... Their playing like they don’t believe in the managers decisions and older players like lines etc who played in teams with Taylor and bodin know their playing with weak replacements... Payne isn’t the answer...shrews fans were saying how lazy he can be and he’s got a bad attitude...on his first interview when asked what will he bring he said “big tackles” He’s league 2 standard Nichols needs to be sold before he goes on a free or devalues so much we get zero for him... Upson looks completely lost and has no effect on the game Sercombe looks watered off from playing left wing all the time Mensah looks a complete waste of money Craig is a joke to me and another Liam Lawrence singing just collecting his wages...if he was any good there’s enough London teams that would have come in for him when we got him on a free James Clarke is league 2 at best and needs to go Leads doesn’t look the player without billy in front of him... Lockyer needs to go and get the best price for him Smith is a very bad signing and I dread seeing his name on the sheet Lee brown/Rory gaffney must be so much happier now they’ve left and we really miss them to be honest... If this rovers team played the rovers team of 2015 they would take a drumming... We’ll be lucky to get 7000 at games within a month of this performances "To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? We weren't losing all the time then. Half of that teams gone. The new players don't seem to have the same passion, work rate, desire or skill as the players we released or sold. Its either they're just sh**? Or they're not playing for him? |
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Post by smudge1 on Sept 15, 2018 18:18:39 GMT
Truth is we have looked a poor team since pre season! With no quality! Blame who you want but if we do not improve rapidly we will stay in the bottom 3 come May! By the way no manager is going to walk out on a 5 year contract, and cannot see our owners sacking him because of the cost! D.C. has been working with his hands tied? Not many players would want to have joined us with no facilities, with no infrastructure etc plus no competitive wage structure! UTG Rovers till I die!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 15, 2018 18:19:15 GMT
"To me it’s very obvious with all the chopping and changing he’s lost the dressing room" So in the conference when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? In league 2 when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? Last season when he was chopping and changing he'd also lost the dressing room? We weren't losing all the time then. Half of that teams gone. The new players don't seem to have the same passion, work rate, desire or skill as the players we released or sold. Its either they're just sh**? Or they're not playing for him? Confidence must play a part and this long poor run must be sapping that out of the players. The fact we never look like scoring can hardly help. Lose next Saturday and I do fear DC will never turn it around, unless we get some good news from elsewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 18:21:42 GMT
Well I bet Bennett's on a lot more money than we were paying Billy and I would not be surprised if Payne is on more than we were paying Ellis. Payne arrived this summer not last January, plus Bennett had his contract paid up by Pompey so I doubt we're paying him mega bucks on top of that. Well Topper you have heard different rumours than me concerning Bennett's wages, and yes I do know Payne arrived this summer and he was signed to replace Ellis I believe. |
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Post by socrates on Sept 15, 2018 18:35:58 GMT
You’ve done half a case of Stella in and your not smashed ??!! Go and drink the pub dry and speak to you tomorrow when your not hungover. 😂 What he didn't say was that it was a 4 pack of Stella.... I was wondering how much was in his case to be fair but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. A case was 24 cans in my day. |
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He’s league 2 standard
