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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 14, 2018 7:51:44 GMT
Definition of generation? 25 years is the standard. To claim that a whole generation has grown up never seeing us score is beyond stupid. We have a problem, as a club. Being stupid is of no help. Hyperbole is a creative figure of speech prompted by frustration from a performance like that. I thought it was funny. Reminds me of the old joke about the dog that does a dance every time we concede a goal. What happens when we score? Don't know, I've only had him 8 years. |
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Post by cockergas on Oct 14, 2018 7:52:37 GMT
I think it's the continuing changing of team and tactics. On Tuesday against Yeovil we looked a good footballing side, OK some of our final balls didn't come off and there were a few mistakes at the back, but I think it looked our best footballing side. Yesterday however the tactics changed and it was long balls down the sides trying to turn their defence, so Jak was always quite isolated.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 14, 2018 8:39:29 GMT
I think it's the continuing changing of team and tactics. On Tuesday against Yeovil we looked a good footballing side, OK some of our final balls didn't come off and there were a few mistakes at the back, but I think it looked our best footballing side. Yesterday however the tactics changed and it was long balls down the sides trying to turn their defence, so Jak was always quite isolated. Or do we just panic away from home and take the easy, long ball, option? Plus Broadbent for all his faults tries to play a pass unlike Lockyer's hit and hope hoofs upfield. Plus we lost Leads to Parts, who did virtually nothing going forward, and then had JC doing similar on the left. For fans saying it was our worse game ever, given we've seen some thrashings over the years losing to 90th goal is hardly going to be our worse performance, they really need to get a grip of themselves. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 14, 2018 8:49:11 GMT
Last two results have been hard to take, losing in injury time in both. Those two points would have had us up to 14th. At these moments we need a bit of perspective and remember had Jakubiak scored in his 1 on 1 it could have been a lot different but it wasn’t so this place kicks off. People have been calling for him to play, he does but his one chance isn’t converted, not sure that’s DCs fault. It really is fine lines at the moment and they’re going against us, let’s hope it changes. Talk of getting rid of DC is not going to help imo but he does need to develop a hard skin for the winter and look at the problems of not being able to score.
I don’t see us as much as others but in the five matches I’ve seen so far if there was one thing standing out it is his determination to play players in their wrong positions, please play left footed players on the left and right footed players likewise. DC is a genius compared to me as a manager but this playing of players in wrong positions slows play down, requires them all to take extra touches and is so obvious I’m sure the opposition can see it. The big worry is that this team is so like John Wards in that awful season. We’re good defensively, keep things tight but rarely look like scoring. Makes me shiver to think what could happen.
But it’s only October and it looks like the coaching staff have solved the defensive problems, time for DC and MS to solve our attacking problems. Time to keep our nerve and remember that teams around us and below us will be just as worried.
UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 14, 2018 9:02:08 GMT
Last two results have been hard to take, losing in injury time in both. Those two points would have had us up to 14th. At these moments we need a bit of perspective and remember had Jakubiak scored in his 1 on 1 it could have been a lot different but it wasn’t so this place kicks off. People have been calling for him to play, he does but his one chance isn’t converted, not sure that’s DCs fault. It really is fine lines at the moment and they’re going against us, let’s hope it changes. Talk of getting rid of DC is not going to help imo but he does need to develop a hard skin for the winter and look at the problems of not being able to score. I don’t see us as much as others but in the five matches I’ve seen so far if there was one thing standing out it is his determination to play players in their wrong positions, please play left footed players on the left and right footed players likewise. DC is a genius compared to me as a manager but this playing of players in wrong positions slows play down, requires them all to take extra touches and is so obvious I’m sure the opposition can see it. The big worry is that this team is so like John Wards in that awful season. We’re good defensively, keep things tight but rarely look like scoring. Makes me shiver to think what could happen. But it’s only October and it looks like the coaching staff have solved the defensive problems, time for DC and MS to solve our attacking problems. Time to keep our nerve and remember that teams around us and below us will be just as worried. UTG! Maths not your strong point? As for it being fine lines. Yes it is and yes we could have had 2 points in the past week. What I will say though however is that the better team won on both occasions. So we can't have too many complaints. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 14, 2018 9:04:25 GMT
Last two results have been hard to take, losing in injury time in both. Those two points would have had us up to 14th. At these moments we need a bit of perspective and remember had Jakubiak scored in his 1 on 1 it could have been a lot different but it wasn’t so this place kicks off. People have been calling for him to play, he does but his one chance isn’t converted, not sure that’s DCs fault. It really is fine lines at the moment and they’re going against us, let’s hope it changes. Talk of getting rid of DC is not going to help imo but he does need to develop a hard skin for the winter and look at the problems of not being able to score. I don’t see us as much as others but in the five matches I’ve seen so far if there was one thing standing out it is his determination to play players in their wrong positions, please play left footed players on the left and right footed players likewise. DC is a genius compared to me as a manager but this playing of players in wrong positions slows play down, requires them all to take extra touches and is so obvious I’m sure the opposition can see it. The big worry is that this team is so like John Wards in that awful season. We’re good defensively, keep things tight but rarely look like scoring. Makes me shiver to think what could happen. But it’s only October and it looks like the coaching staff have solved the defensive problems, time for DC and MS to solve our attacking problems. Time to keep our nerve and remember that teams around us and below us will be just as worried. UTG! Maths not your strong point? As for it being fine lines. Yes it is and yes we could have had 2 points in the past week. What I will say though however is that the better team won on both occasions. So we can't have too many complaints. Eh? UTG! |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 14, 2018 9:10:35 GMT
Last two results have been hard to take, losing in injury time in both. Those two points would have had us up to 14th. At these moments we need a bit of perspective and remember had Jakubiak scored in his 1 on 1 it could have been a lot different but it wasn’t so this place kicks off. People have been calling for him to play, he does but his one chance isn’t converted, not sure that’s DCs fault. It really is fine lines at the moment and they’re going against us, let’s hope it changes. Talk of getting rid of DC is not going to help imo but he does need to develop a hard skin for the winter and look at the problems of not being able to score. I don’t see us as much as others but in the five matches I’ve seen so far if there was one thing standing out it is his determination to play players in their wrong positions, please play left footed players on the left and right footed players likewise. DC is a genius compared to me as a manager but this playing of players in wrong positions slows play down, requires them all to take extra touches and is so obvious I’m sure the opposition can see it. The big worry is that this team is so like John Wards in that awful season. We’re good defensively, keep things tight but rarely look like scoring. Makes me shiver to think what could happen. But it’s only October and it looks like the coaching staff have solved the defensive problems, time for DC and MS to solve our attacking problems. Time to keep our nerve and remember that teams around us and below us will be just as worried. UTG! Good points - with regard to playing players on their opposite side I agree to some extent but in the Yeovil game Matthews played on the right & Rodmam left which worked really well. I didn't go yesterday but imo if we're going to play that way we're we effectively saying we're going to try & play through teams so have to trust our more technically gifted players. In that system I think Matthews & Bennett both have to play. |
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Post by toteend4 on Oct 14, 2018 9:21:21 GMT
DC (best manager we have ever had!) has been 'sold a pup' by the management when he signed new contract. His teams attacking
prowess has lost its cutting edge because he has been forced to sell three ' top drawer strikers' Not given sufficient backing in
the transfer window to replace the quality lost. Forced to pay 'over the odds' for average stock, let down on the training ground
and new stadium and just left to get on with it.
We all know when a team is not playing for their manager - to quote a phase 'they are an honest bunch of players' I can't argue
with that. The strange tactics, team selection, and playing players out of position is DC's way of getting back at the Board.
The end result will be either the sack or a take over which may result in restoration of belief.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Oct 14, 2018 9:36:21 GMT
Maths not your strong point? As for it being fine lines. Yes it is and yes we could have had 2 points in the past week. What I will say though however is that the better team won on both occasions. So we can't have too many complaints. Eh? UTG! Think he's referring to the fact that 10 & 2 make twelve points and although a two goal change in our GD would take us above both Shrewsbury and Burton (who lose 2 of the three points they got yesterday) we couldn't go above Rochdale or Blackpool...so it's 16th |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 14, 2018 9:37:40 GMT
The most worrying thing for me is that with all his tinkering DC must have tried most combinations of players/formations and nothing seems to be clicking yet. I just hope that we aren't too far adrift come January and even then there is no guarantee the right players will be brought in. Worrying times. If the current owners are in charge they won't give DC any money in January. Looks like we're on skid row, and if we aren't careful we'll skid right down to league 2. perhaps that's our natural level now. In the past our natural level was league 1. Following the introduction of the Premier league the money and standards in the remaining 3 leagues has improved massively, which means the Conference is now the old 4th division. Unless we get owners with money to spend, like the Sh it with Lansdown, out natural position, given we always sell our best players and don't replace Them is now league 2, with the occasional foray into league 1, which we won't be able to sustain, because we don't have monied owners and always sell our best players. Repeat ad finitely . |
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Post by William Wilson on Oct 14, 2018 10:24:18 GMT
The most worrying thing for me is that with all his tinkering DC must have tried most combinations of players/formations and nothing seems to be clicking yet. I just hope that we aren't too far adrift come January and even then there is no guarantee the right players will be brought in. Worrying times. If the current owners are in charge they won't give DC any money in January. Looks like we're on skid row, and if we aren't careful we'll skid right down to league 2. perhaps that's our natural level now. In the past our natural level was league 1. Following the introduction of the Premier league the money and standards in the remaining 3 leagues has improved massively, which means the Conference is now the old 4th division. Unless we get owners with money to spend, like the Sh it with Lansdown, out natural position, given we always sell our best players and don't replace Them is now league 2, with the occasional foray into league 1, which we won't be able to sustain, because we don't have monied owners and always sell our best players. Repeat ad finitely . That makes for depressing reading, Oldgas, but I fear you may well be right. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 14, 2018 10:35:34 GMT
Think he's referring to the fact that 10 & 2 make twelve points and although a two goal change in our GD would take us above both Shrewsbury and Burton (who lose 2 of the three points they got yesterday) we couldn't go above Rochdale or Blackpool...so it's 16th Yep 16th at best but if it was 2 0-0 draws then it would be 17th! |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 14, 2018 10:41:17 GMT
If the current owners are in charge they won't give DC any money in January. Looks like we're on skid row, and if we aren't careful we'll skid right down to league 2. perhaps that's our natural level now. In the past our natural level was league 1. Following the introduction of the Premier league the money and standards in the remaining 3 leagues has improved massively, which means the Conference is now the old 4th division. Unless we get owners with money to spend, like the Sh it with Lansdown, out natural position, given we always sell our best players and don't replace Them is now league 2, with the occasional foray into league 1, which we won't be able to sustain, because we don't have monied owners and always sell our best players. Repeat ad finitely . That makes for depressing reading, Oldgas, but I fear you may well be right. And even more depressing is the fact that our various owners over the years haven't learned the lessons of the past. There was tremendous optimism from the fans when the latest shower took over. The fans were prepared to back them, the large fan base started to mobilise and gates increased dramatically. Then, as usual, the owners basically sh1t on the club and its fans, failed to deliver on the promise of a new stadium, training ground etc etc. The fans have again become disollutioned and numbers are falling back. best players have been sold, not adequately replaced and as a result results have fallen. The owners have totally disappeared, I wouldn't be surprised if their plan is to run the club down until they can claim it is unsustainable, then sell the Mem off for housing. Who knows, perhaps this was their intention all along, and they've been happy to play the long game. After all they're Jordanian bankers, they don't really give a flying f uck about Bristol Rovers, all they want to do is make money. |
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Post by straighouttabristol on Oct 14, 2018 11:26:57 GMT
You haven’t been watching for long off top my head in the 18 years I’ve been watching we’ve had weare, bubb, Thomas, akinde, Richards, rearden, Matthews and wall You think they were worse than Nicholls? The blokes got 1 goal in 40 games. Yep they’re records ain’t any better and they’re overall play was worse I’m sure there’s loads more I’ve forgot about people seem to think everything in the present is worse like the posters saying was worse game they’ve seen when we had worse with Atkins and Graydon |
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Oct 14, 2018 11:49:19 GMT
DC (best manager we have ever had!) has been 'sold a pup' by the management when he signed new contract. His teams attacking prowess has lost its cutting edge because he has been forced to sell three ' top drawer strikers' Not given sufficient backing in the transfer window to replace the quality lost. Forced to pay 'over the odds' for average stock, let down on the training ground and new stadium and just left to get on with it. We all know when a team is not playing for their manager - to quote a phase 'they are an honest bunch of players' I can't argue
with that. The strange tactics, team selection, and playing players out of position is DC's way of getting back at the Board.
The end result will be either the sack or a take over which may result in restoration of belief. I honestly think that DC has too much respect for/fear of the fans to play at getting back at the board like that. More than that though, I think he's probably got too much respect for himself and fear for his own job and reputation to deliberately behave that way. Any power/leverage he holds lies in the fact that he's been a good manager in the past, and they're hard to come by - suddenly becoming a crap manager isn't going to do him any favours when you can get one of those anywhere. |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 14, 2018 12:08:13 GMT
You think they were worse than Nicholls? The blokes got 1 goal in 40 games. Yep they’re records ain’t any better and they’re overall play was worse I’m sure there’s loads more I’ve forgot about people seem to think everything in the present is worse like the posters saying was worse game they’ve seen when we had worse with Atkins and Graydon Their records are far better. They also didn't cost £300k. Tom Nichols is the worst signing in my lifetime. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 14, 2018 14:10:24 GMT
Think he's referring to the fact that 10 & 2 make twelve points and although a two goal change in our GD would take us above both Shrewsbury and Burton (who lose 2 of the three points they got yesterday) we couldn't go above Rochdale or Blackpool...so it's 16th Whatever. My point still stands about it being different but for the late goals. And I suspect he knew that. 😀 UTG! |
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Post by Snoop Dogg on Oct 14, 2018 21:06:05 GMT
Someone letting off what smelt like a stinkbomb in the bar at half time was the most positive and/or entertaining thing I can take away from the absolute sh*tshow the players served up yesterday.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 15, 2018 7:05:14 GMT
Someone letting off what smelt like a stinkbomb in the bar at half time was the most positive and/or entertaining thing I can take away from the absolute sh*tshow the players served up yesterday. It wasn't Mike Jay talking, was it? |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 15, 2018 8:16:50 GMT
We lost to a better organised side who could string passes together.
Hoofing the ball upfield at every opportunity was pointless. What has happened to the midfield as for large parts of the game they were innocuous. Next week is a must win match I remember watching Us away to Wimbledon last season on the big screen when after a bright first 10 minutes we then just resorted to lumping it - no-one made runs behind defenders, no-one took on a player in the last third of the pitch. Then to cap it all we conceded a last minute goal. This as we can see has carried on into this season. DC has to take quite a lot of blame. Does he have the confidence, let alone the players ? |
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