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Post by hobsie on Oct 23, 2018 22:06:11 GMT
Probably one of the worse performances I have ever seen - zero attacking threat and a complete lack of ability from all - Bonham should have been MOM simply for his 1on1 save first half - no shots and no flair against a poor side. 3 points were important tonight but major problems if we continue to be so defence minded!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:07:31 GMT
Just back in.
Well that was Div 2 game if ever I saw one.
No quality at all from either team for the whole 90 minutes.
Our manager playing not to lose, at home against a bottom 4 team.
4 across the back, 5 across the middle, and Nicholls alone up front. So what do we do? Hoof it up to Nicholls. How we were not 3 down in the first 30 minutes against a crap team like Wimbledon was just a matter of pure luck and one good save.
I guess DC has given up on this season, will just grind out staying up.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 23, 2018 22:08:46 GMT
I'm not sure we were as bad as some are suggesting, they started well & yes we rode our luck a couple of times in the first 20 mins but to read some of the comments you would have thought we had been completely battered. Bonham has made a couple of decent saves but he's hardly been overworked as in some previous games. We've had to scrap against a side that get the ball forward quickly it was never going to be pretty especially 2nd half when they've effectively shoved two giants up top & launched it forward at every opportunity. Maybe we should give our players a bit more credit, we've defended very well & showed we have plenty of fight in us, good three points & something too build on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:09:55 GMT
I've watched the goal three times and I can't see how Upson scored that. Sat behind it in the south stand and looked a clear Upson tap-in to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:12:34 GMT
I'm not sure we were as bad as some are suggesting, they started well & yes we rode our luck a couple of times in the first 20 mins but to read some of the comments you would have thought we had been completely battered. Bonham has made a couple of decent saves but he's hardly been overworked as in some previous games. We've had to scrap against a side that get the ball forward quickly it was never going to be pretty especially 2nd half when they've effectively shoved two giants up top & launched it forward at every opportunity. Maybe we should give our players a bit more credit, we've defended very well & showed we have plenty of fight in us, good three points & something too build on. A decent footballing team would have torn Wimbledon apart. They were one dimensional and shocking. We were worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:13:02 GMT
I'm not sure we were as bad as some are suggesting, they started well & yes we rode our luck a couple of times in the first 20 mins but to read some of the comments you would have thought we had been completely battered. Bonham has made a couple of decent saves but he's hardly been overworked as in some previous games. We've had to scrap against a side that get the ball forward quickly it was never going to be pretty especially 2nd half when they've effectively shoved two giants up top & launched it forward at every opportunity. Maybe we should give our players a bit more credit, we've defended very well & showed we have plenty of fight in us, good three points & something too build on. Spot on. It sure wasn't pretty, but we came through a difficult start and hung in there until we grabbed a goal. From that moment we never looked like losing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:15:46 GMT
How the hell are we winning this ? Shocking display but I’d bite anyone’s hand off for the 1-0. Glad we’ve switched Clarke and Sercombe, Clarke in behind Nichols has to be one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen DC try. Matthews giving the ball away everytime he has it, Nichols isolated upfront but again has missed a few chances (how many more will DC and the fans give him!!). Bonham MOTM incoming again - his fingertip save onto the post was first class. Agree, that was totally bizarre. Ollie C was like a fish out water. What possible logic applies to starting them in each others positions? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:17:11 GMT
Just back in. Well that was Div 2 game if ever I saw one. No quality at all from either team for the whole 90 minutes. Our manager playing not to lose, at home against a bottom 4 team. 4 across the back, 5 across the middle, and Nicholls alone up front. So what do we do? Hoof it up to Nicholls. How we were not 3 down in the first 30 minutes against a crap team like Wimbledon was just a matter of pure luck and one good save. I guess DC has given up on this season, will just grind out staying up. 4-5-1 does not constitute "playing not to lose". It's possibly tbe best way of utlising the midfielders we have to trouble teams and score goals (albeit I'd like to see Lines in there). Bennett, Sercombe and Matthews need to take some responsibility for our lack of goals, not just the strikers. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:17:57 GMT
Shocking display but I’d bite anyone’s hand off for the 1-0. Glad we’ve switched Clarke and Sercombe, Clarke in behind Nichols has to be one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen DC try. Matthews giving the ball away everytime he has it, Nichols isolated upfront but again has missed a few chances (how many more will DC and the fans give him!!). Bonham MOTM incoming again - his fingertip save onto the post was first class. Agree, that was totally bizarre. Ollie C was like a fish out water. What possible logic applies to starting them in each others positions? That starting line up actually made me laugh |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:20:21 GMT
Just back in. Well that was Div 2 game if ever I saw one. No quality at all from either team for the whole 90 minutes. Our manager playing not to lose, at home against a bottom 4 team. 4 across the back, 5 across the middle, and Nicholls alone up front. So what do we do? Hoof it up to Nicholls. How we were not 3 down in the first 30 minutes against a crap team like Wimbledon was just a matter of pure luck and one good save. I guess DC has given up on this season, will just grind out staying up. 4-5-1 does not constitute "playing not to lose". It's possibly tbe best way of utlising the midfielders we have to trouble teams and score goals (albeit I'd like to see Lines in there). Bennett, Sercombe and Matthews need to take some responsibility for our lack of goals, not just the strikers. So starting Ollie Clarke as the forward midfield player to support Nicholls made sense to you? Playing players put of position, again, does not help does it. This is getting ridiculous. |
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Post by aghast on Oct 23, 2018 22:22:09 GMT
DC sets up a cautious side against a fellow relegation rival, in a match we really do not want to lose.
He gets it right, and we win 2-0.
Our defence yet again do the job. Best in League 1 at the moment.
Result: "DC must go. We were terrible. We're doomed."
Presumably these posters would have been happier with a plucky 3-4 defeat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:22:30 GMT
Probably one of the worse performances I have ever seen - zero attacking threat and a complete lack of ability from all - Bonham should have been MOM simply for his 1on1 save first half - no shots and no flair against a poor side. 3 points were important tonight but major problems if we continue to be so defence minded! What do you think was the most important thing tonight, particularly bearing in mind our recent run and precarious league position? Flowing, entertaining football (assuming of course that the opposition is nice and lets you do that), or three points? |
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Post by hobsie on Oct 23, 2018 22:24:55 GMT
Cannot see how people can honestly say we deserved to win tonight? 2 very fortunate goals and not one other shot on target - take in account Wimbledon are likely to be in the relegation mix all season, that performance was a massive worry in my eyes
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Post by hobsie on Oct 23, 2018 22:26:37 GMT
Gas1970 - 3 points was the most important thing but you cannot say you were impressed by any player in that team today?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:27:17 GMT
4-5-1 does not constitute "playing not to lose". It's possibly tbe best way of utlising the midfielders we have to trouble teams and score goals (albeit I'd like to see Lines in there). Bennett, Sercombe and Matthews need to take some responsibility for our lack of goals, not just the strikers. So starting Ollie Clarke as the forward midfield player to support Nicholls made sense to you? Playing players put of position, again, does not help does it. This is getting ridiculous. I agree, Ollie was poor in the first 20 minutes. But I didn't think he was out of position. He is a midfielder whose job is to defend and get forward. Ollie was part of a five man midfield that failed to support Tom Nichols or indeed get within 20 yards of him at times. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:29:10 GMT
DC sets up a cautious side against a fellow relegation rival, in a match we really do not want to lose. He gets it right, and we win 2-0. Our defence yet again do the job. Best in League 1 at the moment. Result: "DC must go. We were terrible. We're doomed." Presumably these posters would have been happier with a plucky 3-4 defeat. Not at all Aghast. It's just I do not think we deserved to win. One goal from a complete pigs breakfast of a corner, and a deflection for an own goal. They would have scored but for the Post via BONHAM, a good block from BONHAM and Craig clearing off the line. I don't recall their goalie having to save a serious shot or header? Did he?. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 23, 2018 22:31:34 GMT
I’ve said it always that when a manager plays players continually out of position when there are adequate players to play that role then he is starting to lose the plot.
OC is not a number 10. But he was put there for the first 25 mins and had no idea how to play there. Sercombe is not a DMF, neither is he a winger, so why does he play those positions? As soon as they switched, all of a sudden we were winning tackles and getting some forward momentum.
Upson i think would be best in a flat midfield, but he isn’t really a DMF, because he doesn’t win an awful lot, and his forward play is, well, not that great.
Matthews lost possession 6 times on the spin that he had the ball to feet. Willing to give him more of a chance, but boy he was awful tonight. Is he left or right footed? Can seem to deliver a ball with his right but always dribbles on his left. Why not swap wings with Bennett who is an out and out right footer?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:32:17 GMT
So starting Ollie Clarke as the forward midfield player to support Nicholls made sense to you? Playing players put of position, again, does not help does it. This is getting ridiculous. I agree, Ollie was poor in the first 20 minutes. But I didn't think he was out of position. He is a midfielder whose job is to defend and get forward. Ollie was part of a five man midfield that failed to support Tom Nichols or indeed get within 20 yards of him at times. Sorry. But balls. Ollie is our best box to box player, leaving him wandering around the centre circle whilst the ball sailed over his head, and then sailed over Nicholls head, was comical if it wasn't so sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 22:32:38 GMT
Gas1970 - 3 points was the most important thing but you cannot say you were impressed by any player in that team today? Tony Craig was absolutely immense. He was superb throughout. Tom Lockyer and Jack Bonham also did very well. Ed Upson just about held a midfield together that was creaking early on. Yes, we've all seen these players play better and we know there is quality there. But we haven't scored for ages, we're in a relegation scrap and confidence is low. Flowing football was always unlikely. Sometimes, you have to slog out a win and cannot play the football you might ideally want to. Tonight was one of those games. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 23, 2018 22:34:17 GMT
Grateful for the win, but we wont get many more playing like that.
DC has tried tinkered with just about everything and nothing seems to be working. Either the players just aren't bothered, or more likely aren't good enough.
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