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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 17, 2018 19:04:54 GMT
Massively frustrated after watching that, we've not played badly at all and have paid a heavy price for not taking our chances. On another day we win that game comfortably & the mood is completely different.
We do have a bit of quality in the squad but are painfully short up front. None of the strikers have looked liked scoring on a consistent basis so imo it's worth trying to pick one of the 4 as the lone striker & get as many of our creative players into the side as possible behind him.
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Post by syg on Nov 17, 2018 19:08:57 GMT
1st game I'd been to for a while.
I thought we looked present decent, it wasn't the lack of chances, lack of effort that I had read about about from previous matches.
For paynes lack of prowess, I guess he doesn't want long balls pumped in over his head as much as we do. I couldn't understand why we persist in this when I think he managed to get his head to about 10% of them. So knock Payne as much as you like, but I'm sure hes not asking for these stupid long balls that he knows he's unlikely to win.
Nichols looked great, but he's not playing last man, he was 20/30 yards out or going down the channels and he's not going to score from there.
Thought Bennett was terrible.
Playing the way we played we need a striker with some height, it's so obvious it's painful. A striker with height, play Nichols off of him and in the danger areas, let the midfield do the work that Nichols was doing today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:11:14 GMT
And if we had won all our games we'd be top of the league. But we haven't, we're in the relegation zone and after 10+ games the table doesn't lie. We're crap at this point in time and the recruitment (especially up front) has been rubbish. I’m not saying we deserve to be top of the league or anywhere near. My point is that the game is decided on very fine margins, those margins have meant we’ve lost not won today, but it doesn’t mean our whole performance was a lot worse than it would’ve been had we won. But the fans reactions are a hell of a lot different than what they would’ve been had we won. You can bemoan fine margins in this particular game but in the grand scheme of things we are not in tbe relegation zone because of fine margins over 10+ games, we are there because we are crap. This defeat was hardly a shock result. Our strikers have 3 (3!!!) goals between them so far this season. People have every right to be annoyed with the state of things right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:13:35 GMT
Lots will blame the owners but DC has already wasted 600k on strikers who don’t score. But that figure is over three windows. So average £200k per window. In that time he has sold around £1.2m of strikers in Bodin and Harrison. That doesn't even take into account Taylor. It ain't rocket science. Money guarantees nothing and bargains are possible, but if you KEEP skimping then eventually you're going to get poor quality. None of us know whether the decision not to give Darrell the budget he wants is right or not. It may be that it is for the good of the club or it may be that we have owners who are not interested in progressing the club. Whatever. The one certainty is that we will continue to flirt with relegation at best and probably end up in League 2 within a year or two at worst. A strike force costing £500k plus isn't skimping whatsoever. We're losing millions a year FFS. The idea we would invest over a million on strikers is simply delusional. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:16:55 GMT
I thought it was an entertaining match and we were unlucky to lose.
But i think scunthorpe will finish above us and its painfully obvious all 4 strikers at the club are not good enough.
It was frustrating how comfortable scunthorpe were once they went ahead,we failed to show composure on the ball in the later stages and the last 2 substitutions seemed to unbalance the whole team.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 17, 2018 19:42:00 GMT
The guy - Will- on radio bristol, just finished speaking, summed it up perfectly. Think Will is on here . . . |
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Post by pilninggas on Nov 17, 2018 19:49:22 GMT
were the 50-50 prizes claimed? have an unchecked ticket in my pocket.
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Post by socrates on Nov 17, 2018 19:52:05 GMT
If we are not planning on a big overhaul in january then we will be relegated pure and simple. There is no money, we are already in the bottom four, this current squad is hopeless, I cannot see anything other than relegation. DC & the whole fan base has been totally let down. by the now absent Wael and his Jordanian family. Where is Wael ? I think he’s been totally let down but his family , hasn’t been able to do the things he wants , genuinely wanted to do the things he talked about, probably very watered off too . We want him to come out and speak up but if he does and he says the things I’ve mentioned then he’s seen by his family to be disrespectful to his family. Can’t see that happening. I reckon Wael and hamer have come out of this looking very poor but had good intentions but aren’t really able to do anything because at the end of the day they don’t call the shots and the people that do we never hear from. It hasn’t been a complete disaster if they hadn’t bought the club we’d probsbky be back in the conference or not even have a club or we’d be Bristol Rovers 2016 ltd in the 7th tier. It could and would probably have been worse but it’s nowhere near what we hoped for or what we’d been told. Dissalutioned. |
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Post by titchthephot on Nov 17, 2018 19:54:28 GMT
We all have a good laugh at the teds when they go into melt down on BBC radio Bristolwedon'tlikerovers but we (most of those who phone in) are guilty of doing just the same. We have the best manager we have ever had - we don't know whether he has been given much money in the past to buy players but I suspect it wasn't that much- and he feels it the same as we do. If it makes the Nichols haters feel better why don't we re-name him an attacking midfielder. He works bloody hard, is extremely unlucky but works for the team. Look at how many goals he has been involved in. Yes, I would love him to be scoring bucket loads and it is frustrating that he isn't - and it must be frustrating for him too. I think the team needs him and yes, we do need a big target man but can't we at least support our team in these dark days instead of kicking them when they are down?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:18:28 GMT
But that figure is over three windows. So average £200k per window. In that time he has sold around £1.2m of strikers in Bodin and Harrison. That doesn't even take into account Taylor. It ain't rocket science. Money guarantees nothing and bargains are possible, but if you KEEP skimping then eventually you're going to get poor quality. None of us know whether the decision not to give Darrell the budget he wants is right or not. It may be that it is for the good of the club or it may be that we have owners who are not interested in progressing the club. Whatever. The one certainty is that we will continue to flirt with relegation at best and probably end up in League 2 within a year or two at worst. A strike force costing £500k plus isn't skimping whatsoever. We're losing millions a year FFS. The idea we would invest over a million on strikers is simply delusional. I don't expect us to invest millions on strikers. In fact, I would suggest it would be impossible as strikers of that value don't go to League 1 clubs. I also said that it may be in the club's best interest not to spend more than Darrell has been given, i.e. it may be that his budget is right for the club and its future. However, the fact remains that if you don't have much to spend (even if that is the right approach), eventually you will buy players of less quality than those you sell for more. That reduction in quality means less wins, less points and in time, most likely, relegation. So I'm not delusional. I'm merely making the point that Darrell cannot be expected to continuously pick up gems of the quality that he has had to sell, when he has a fraction of that money to spend. Surely that's logical? I'm afraid that our club's natural level is now upper League 2, Lower League 1. It's a shame, but that's how it is in a game that is increasingly dictated by the size of owner's wallets. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 17, 2018 20:47:31 GMT
The guy - Will- on radio bristol, just finished speaking, summed it up perfectly. Funny - I thought he was talking out of his arse. Payne a "disgrace" for trying to wind up their keeper? What a load of cr*p. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 17, 2018 20:56:44 GMT
There is no money, we are already in the bottom four, this current squad is hopeless, I cannot see anything other than relegation. DC & the whole fan base has been totally let down. by the now absent Wael and his Jordanian family. Where is Wael ? I think he’s been totally let down but his family , hasn’t been able to do the things he wants , genuinely wanted to do the things he talked about, probably very watered off too . We want him to come out and speak up but if he does and he says the things I’ve mentioned then he’s seen by his family to be disrespectful to his family. Can’t see that happening. I reckon Wael and hamer have come out of this looking very poor but had good intentions but aren’t really able to do anything because at the end of the day they don’t call the shots and the people that do we never hear from. It hasn’t been a complete disaster if they hadn’t bought the club we’d probsbky be back in the conference or not even have a club or we’d be Bristol Rovers 2016 ltd in the 7th tier. It could and would probably have been worse but it’s nowhere near what we hoped for or what we’d been told. Dissalutioned. Wasn’t there today. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 17, 2018 20:57:07 GMT
The guy - Will- on radio bristol, just finished speaking, summed it up perfectly. Funny - I thought he was talking out of his arse. Payne a "disgrace" for trying to wind up their keeper? What a load of cr*p. Pot Black comes to mind with some our your little gems on here |
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Post by LJG on Nov 17, 2018 21:04:34 GMT
Funny - I thought he was talking out of his arse. Payne a "disgrace" for trying to wind up their keeper? What a load of cr*p. Pot Black comes to mind with some our your little gems on here Ha yeah because criticising a striker who hasn't scored for a year is the same as as saying one of our players is a disgrace for playing mind games with the opposition keeper. Hahaha! |
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 17, 2018 21:25:59 GMT
I’m sick of coming away from the game thinking we had more possession had more corners and morr chances but lost. We just don’t make the most of our attacking opportunities. Not lines fault he Hit thst as good as any of the ones he’s scored, great save , their keeper also made a fantastic save first half and was Man of the match. Agree with that. It's simple really - we don't score goals. Not much else is THAT bad. Stunning save in first half. Great pen save. My one worry would be that lines took a pen last week & did exactly the same this week. These days everything is researched & little is left to chance. I would bet a lot of money their keeper saw last week's pen & thought it was worth a try to go hard and fast for the same placement & hope lines does a carbon copy pen. |
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Post by adrian301 on Nov 17, 2018 21:40:29 GMT
I keep hearing the strikers aren't good enough...but are they missing 50% of goal scoring opportunities? The strikers we used to have, we played to their strengths. Randall, over the top... Steve White, good at back to goal turn and shoot.
Now, we must work on training drills that result in strikers getting a shot on goal every day. Are we just not creative enough or are we just making it up on the day and hoping for the best?
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Post by syg on Nov 17, 2018 21:42:52 GMT
The guy - Will- on radio bristol, just finished speaking, summed it up perfectly. Funny - I thought he was talking out of his arse. Payne a "disgrace" for trying to wind up their keeper? What a load of cr*p. Ye, I thought he came out with some tosh. |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 17, 2018 22:15:10 GMT
I’m sick of coming away from the game thinking we had more possession had more corners and morr chances but lost. We just don’t make the most of our attacking opportunities. Not lines fault he Hit thst as good as any of the ones he’s scored, great save , their keeper also made a fantastic save first half and was Man of the match. Agree with that. It's simple really - we don't score goals. Not much else is THAT bad. Stunning save in first half. Great pen save. My one worry would be that lines took a pen last week & did exactly the same this week. These days everything is researched & little is left to chance. I would bet a lot of money their keeper saw last week's pen & thought it was worth a try to go hard and fast for the same placement & hope lines does a carbon copy pen. Yep agree, We need to get someone in who can do a goal. |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 17, 2018 22:22:25 GMT
Cue - I've got a good bunch of players here, working hard on the training ground, we dust ourselves off and go again etc etc...…….. It's so obvious we need a goalscorer. It’s obvious we also need a new duster. Attachment Deleted |
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