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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 10:59:56 GMT
When I visited St Helier Jersey about 18 months ago I googled Dwane Sports to find out where they are based they are registered at 1Esplanade St Helier if you google 1Esplanade St Helier Panama Papers scandal you will find that the office where they are registered has been investigated,/conected to the scandal. I lived in Jersey between 1975 and 1980 and am going back for five nights next week, subject to Flybe still being in operation. There are many addresses in St Helier, manly Advocates offices that on the outside have numerous small company plaques indicating that a company is registered at that address. You cannot read too much into this as it is mainly used for Tax purposes and is usually used by companies/individuals to place their overseas earnings in accounts in Jersey. How this relates to BRFC I have no idea, perhaps Dwayne Sports have interests other than BRFC that involves overseas earnings. PS - I am NOT going there for anything to do with BRFC, before anyone asks.  So, gun running? drug smuggling? Anything exciting? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 11:26:27 GMT
I do applaud SH for finally admitting that the training ground is not going to happen. I have been telling people that it would not, as the owners had found out how much it was going to cost them, a fact now confirmed by SH. So the next question is, you said about the development of The Mem was to take place that a firm of Gloustershire consultants were too draw up plans. The question is "are we still employing them?"I thought they were working on The Colony plans, or was that just another smoke screen, as I doubt we ever really had plans to develop it once the UWE talks failed. It sounds to me the ALQ's pulled any further investment once the UWE talks ended, if so, why don't they just advertised that the club is for sale rather than let it die a slow death whilst costing them (or us?) a £1+ p.a. According to Hamer they budgeted 2 million for a training ground then realised it would cost them 8. If they can't afford 8 million for a training ground do you really think they had the clout to build us a 30 million stadium? It is becoming more and more clear that Wael wanted a nice little club to run based on an evolution model of spending little to no money and eventually relying on a development squad to fit out the first team. I highly doubt they ever intended to build the UWE and obfuscated the negotiations by changing the design and being generally belligerent and uncooperative "Should have gone to Jordan" etc leading to the relationship being untenable and DS being left with their nice little club going nowhere and the UWE looking like the bad guys. |
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Post by Severncider on Nov 23, 2018 11:42:44 GMT
I do applaud SH for finally admitting that the training ground is not going to happen. I have been telling people that it would not, as the owners had found out how much it was going to cost them, a fact now confirmed by SH. So the next question is, you said about the development of The Mem was to take place that a firm of Gloustershire consultants were too draw up plans. The question is "are we still employing them?" My understanding was that the Cheltenham based consultants were engaged for the training ground project and not the Mem redevelopment. You could well be right, there have been so many Consultants used by us in the last two years. So the question is "You said we were to redevelop The Mem, are we actively proceeding with drawing up plans?" |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 11:53:04 GMT
Taken from Faceache...
"Not sure if you are aware but Kendall kingscott worked very hard on the project and produced an excellent scheme based on visits by my team to Sheffield Wednesday. Bournemouth. And consultation with fleetwood.
Unfortunately during a meeting with hani the budget was 4-5 million shy so everything was binned and the gates were locked
I see fans saying what great business men they are
I beg to differ who would want to build a clubhouse and first team pitches without 3G pitches and floodlights? Where is the income stream
Chefs .bar staff doing what after 1pm
Fleetwood split their 3G pitches into 3 and rent out everyday including one day for a full women’s league. This fills the clubhouse and generates half a million profit per year. For 6 million Dwayne sports could have done the same.
I also see people talking about planning for houses.
There is already planning for 3 large house and this was in place when they purchased the land."
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 12:04:32 GMT
When I visited St Helier Jersey about 18 months ago I googled Dwane Sports to find out where they are based they are registered at 1Esplanade St Helier if you google 1Esplanade St Helier Panama Papers scandal you will find that the office where they are registered has been investigated,/conected to the scandal. Like Severn said it's completely meaningless. Companies having common registered offices doesn't mean there's any nexus between them whatsoever. Though I look forward to Topper talking about how the Al Qadis were investigated for involvement in the Panama Papers for the next 6 months. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 12:58:56 GMT
I thought they were working on The Colony plans, or was that just another smoke screen, as I doubt we ever really had plans to develop it once the UWE talks failed. It sounds to me the ALQ's pulled any further investment once the UWE talks ended, if so, why don't they just advertised that the club is for sale rather than let it die a slow death whilst costing them (or us?) a £1+ p.a. According to Hamer they budgeted 2 million for a training ground then realised it would cost them 8. If they can't afford 8 million for a training ground do you really think they had the clout to build us a 30 million stadium? It is becoming more and more clear that Wael wanted a nice little club to run based on an evolution model of spending little to no money and eventually relying on a development squad to fit out the first team. I highly doubt they ever intended to build the UWE and obfuscated the negotiations by changing the design and being generally belligerent and uncooperative "Should have gone to Jordan" etc leading to the relationship being untenable and DS being left with their nice little club going nowhere and the UWE looking like the bad guys. Err ... you said the other day that the shiny new owners who were to be announced in October who planned to resurrect UWE had been delayed because UWE have been making unreasonable demands. Now you're saying that the claim that UWE would make unreasonable demands is just a smoke screen for bullsh1t by the Al Qadis. Make your mind up. Are UWE reasonable or unreasonable negotiating partners? Or does it depend on which story you're currently making up? |
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Post by wertongas on Nov 23, 2018 13:18:38 GMT
Taken from Faceache... "Not sure if you are aware but Kendall kingscott worked very hard on the project and produced an excellent scheme based on visits by my team to Sheffield Wednesday. Bournemouth. And consultation with fleetwood. Unfortunately during a meeting with hani the budget was 4-5 million shy so everything was binned and the gates were locked I see fans saying what great business men they are I beg to differ who would want to build a clubhouse and first team pitches without 3G pitches and floodlights? Where is the income stream Chefs .bar staff doing what after 1pm Fleetwood split their 3G pitches into 3 and rent out everyday including one day for a full women’s league. This fills the clubhouse and generates half a million profit per year. For 6 million Dwayne sports could have done the same. I also see people talking about planning for houses. There is already planning for 3 large house and this was in place when they purchased the land." The planning permission for housing has expired, a new application was submitted by AQ but was thrown out because AQ's cocked up on the application and failed to put an ecology report in. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 13:21:51 GMT
According to Hamer they budgeted 2 million for a training ground then realised it would cost them 8. If they can't afford 8 million for a training ground do you really think they had the clout to build us a 30 million stadium? It is becoming more and more clear that Wael wanted a nice little club to run based on an evolution model of spending little to no money and eventually relying on a development squad to fit out the first team. I highly doubt they ever intended to build the UWE and obfuscated the negotiations by changing the design and being generally belligerent and uncooperative "Should have gone to Jordan" etc leading to the relationship being untenable and DS being left with their nice little club going nowhere and the UWE looking like the bad guys. Err ... you said the other day that the shiny new owners who were to be announced in October who planned to resurrect UWE had been delayed because UWE have been making unreasonable demands. Now you're saying that the claim that UWE would make unreasonable demands is just a smoke screen for bullsh1t by the Al Qadis. Make your mind up. Are UWE reasonable or unreasonable negotiating partners? Or does it depend on which story you're currently making up? I don’t recall having that opinion and think you have got me confused with someone else, I don’t need to check because I know you will go and check your dossier on my postings for me so I’ll let you waste your own time (for all the use it will achieve) so I don’t have to waste any more of mine. My opinion on prospective owners has been that there was likely to be something happening, now probably not as the rumours have all dissipated...but I still won’t fully discount it as I’m sure it won’t happen overnight and there is due diligence to be done, knowall may surprise us all and be right. But I don’t recall ever having an opinion on the UWE providing an obstacle to any new owners. As you know I’ve been sceptical of DS for a very long time and so far they haven’t let me down. Interestingly everyone else now appears to be waking up to the realisation that they have no plan, no money and no direction. Opinion has turned in the wake of yet another interview with a DS puppet who last night had nothing substantial to say and wouldn’t categorically state that there would be money available in January. If it’s a choice between them or the UWE, I know who I would sooner believe. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 13:29:26 GMT
Err ... you said the other day that the shiny new owners who were to be announced in October who planned to resurrect UWE had been delayed because UWE have been making unreasonable demands. Now you're saying that the claim that UWE would make unreasonable demands is just a smoke screen for bullsh1t by the Al Qadis. Make your mind up. Are UWE reasonable or unreasonable negotiating partners? Or does it depend on which story you're currently making up? I don’t recall having that opinion and think you have got me confused with someone else, I don’t need to check because I know you will go and check your dossier on my postings for me so I’ll let you waste your own time (for all the use it will achieve) so I don’t have to waste any more of mine. My opinion on prospective owners has been that there was likely to be something happening, now probably not as the rumours have all dissipated...but I still won’t fully discount it as I’m sure it won’t happen overnight and there is due diligence to be done, knowall may surprise us all and be right. But I don’t recall ever having an opinion on the UWE providing an obstacle to any new owners. As you know I’ve been sceptical of DS for a very long time and so far they haven’t let me down. Interestingly everyone else now appears to be waking up to the realisation that they have no plan, no money and no direction. Opinion has turned in the wake of yet another interview with a DS puppet who last night had nothing substantial to say and wouldn’t categorically state that there would be money available in January. If it’s a choice between them or the UWE, I know who I would sooner believe.Apart from when you're saying UWE have tried to stitch up our new owners. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 13:37:28 GMT
I don’t recall having that opinion and think you have got me confused with someone else, I don’t need to check because I know you will go and check your dossier on my postings for me so I’ll let you waste your own time (for all the use it will achieve) so I don’t have to waste any more of mine. My opinion on prospective owners has been that there was likely to be something happening, now probably not as the rumours have all dissipated...but I still won’t fully discount it as I’m sure it won’t happen overnight and there is due diligence to be done, knowall may surprise us all and be right. But I don’t recall ever having an opinion on the UWE providing an obstacle to any new owners. As you know I’ve been sceptical of DS for a very long time and so far they haven’t let me down. Interestingly everyone else now appears to be waking up to the realisation that they have no plan, no money and no direction. Opinion has turned in the wake of yet another interview with a DS puppet who last night had nothing substantial to say and wouldn’t categorically state that there would be money available in January. If it’s a choice between them or the UWE, I know who I would sooner believe.Apart from when you're saying UWE have tried to stitch up our new owners. Like I say I don't recall saying that but I'm sure you have nothing more useful to do with yourself than prove it so I will happily let you. |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 13:42:58 GMT
Apart from when you're saying UWE have tried to stitch up our new owners. Like I say I don't recall saying that but I'm sure you have nothing more useful to do with yourself than prove it so I will happily let you. Hard to keep track of a constant stream of fabrication isn't it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 13:45:08 GMT
Like I say I don't recall saying that but I'm sure you have nothing more useful to do with yourself than prove it so I will happily let you. Hard to keep track of a constant stream of fabrication isn't it. Being the self-appointed forum Police keeping track of fabrication is your job, isn't it? I notice you have stopped picking me up on my general scepticism of the owners though. Doing a great job aren't they? |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 13:49:26 GMT
Hard to keep track of a constant stream of fabrication isn't it. Being the self-appointed forum Police keeping track of fabrication is your job, isn't it? I notice you have stopped picking me up on my general scepticism of the owners though. Doing a great job aren't they? Nothing to do with policing. Forum or otherwise. If you're making cr@p up and expect people to believe it at least try to be consistent. Self contradiction just makes it obvious you just type out things you suddenly imagine rather than anything based on reality. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 13:56:31 GMT
Being the self-appointed forum Police keeping track of fabrication is your job, isn't it? I notice you have stopped picking me up on my general scepticism of the owners though. Doing a great job aren't they? Nothing to do with policing. Forum or otherwise. If you're making cr@p up and expect people to believe it at least try to be consistent. Self contradiction just makes it obvious you just type out things you suddenly imagine rather than anything based on reality. As far as I am concerned I am being consistent - if you want to disprove that then go ahead. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 23, 2018 13:57:03 GMT
Like I say I don't recall saying that but I'm sure you have nothing more useful to do with yourself than prove it so I will happily let you. Hard to keep track of a constant stream of fabrication isn't it. can you replace your chill pill as i think the one your on is not working |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 13:59:03 GMT
Nothing to do with policing. Forum or otherwise. If you're making cr@p up and expect people to believe it at least try to be consistent. Self contradiction just makes it obvious you just type out things you suddenly imagine rather than anything based on reality. As far as I am concerned I am being consistent - if you want to disprove that then go ahead. More lies. |
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Post by wertongas on Nov 23, 2018 13:59:54 GMT
I don’t recall having that opinion and think you have got me confused with someone else, I don’t need to check because I know you will go and check your dossier on my postings for me so I’ll let you waste your own time (for all the use it will achieve) so I don’t have to waste any more of mine. My opinion on prospective owners has been that there was likely to be something happening, now probably not as the rumours have all dissipated...but I still won’t fully discount it as I’m sure it won’t happen overnight and there is due diligence to be done, knowall may surprise us all and be right. But I don’t recall ever having an opinion on the UWE providing an obstacle to any new owners. As you know I’ve been sceptical of DS for a very long time and so far they haven’t let me down. Interestingly everyone else now appears to be waking up to the realisation that they have no plan, no money and no direction. Opinion has turned in the wake of yet another interview with a DS puppet who last night had nothing substantial to say and wouldn’t categorically state that there would be money available in January. If it’s a choice between them or the UWE, I know who I would sooner believe.Apart from when you're saying UWE have tried to stitch up our new owners. When I went to my daughters graduation at UWE the Chancellor was really enthusiastic about going into partnership with Rovers, he clearly didn't have a clue that the club were going to pull the carpet from underneath UWE feet. The club were to blame for the UWE collapse I had a letter from the Chairman 4 months before the collapse which said that plan b was to lmprove the Men and didn't sound at all hopeful about UWE. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 14:10:56 GMT
As far as I am concerned I am being consistent - if you want to disprove that then go ahead. More lies. "Are you gonna bark all day little doggy, or are you gonna bite?"  |
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Post by LJG on Nov 23, 2018 14:12:44 GMT
Apart from when you're saying UWE have tried to stitch up our new owners. When I went to my daughters graduation at UWE the Chancellor was really enthusiastic about going into partnership with Rovers, he clearly didn't have a clue that the club were going to pull the carpet from underneath UWE feet. The club were to blame for the UWE collapse I had a letter from the Chairman 4 months before the collapse which said that plan b was to lmprove the Men and didn't sound at all hopeful about UWE. I wouldn't know one way or another. But someone is claiming one way AND the other. |
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Post by gaelgas on Nov 23, 2018 14:29:20 GMT
Everyone is battering in about Brentford's new stadium but maybe a bit of perspective is needed, 70 million, for a 17,500 seater stadium, that's hardly big enough to be sustainable in the championship let alone the premiership and by the looks of the photos it's had to be squeezed in next to a railway line, so the corner has been chopped off and therefore won't be able to be extended. It shows where football is these days that 70 Million buys you a top end league 1 stadium.
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