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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 22:52:08 GMT
Well enlighten me then being a white Englishman who converted to Islam. I do not need to justify anything to you. I make no claim, other than stating I am am atheist. So, go on. Please justify your position. Just once
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Post by jaggas on Dec 21, 2018 22:56:08 GMT
Ok then here's one for the people who like stats and facts.According to the office of national statistics 84.2% of Somali women who reside in the UK do not work...Can anyone give an example of what positives Somali women offer UK society??
Squirting out a muslim annually is not a positive as it costs the NHS over £20k for every muslim added to their tribe by Somali women.There are a few hundred thousand Somali women in the UK breeding annually at a huge cost to the NHS and the British taxpayer...Please if anyone can give a reason how this helps UK society feel free....oldie Somalis are not a race so forget that worn out race card.
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Post by jaggas on Dec 21, 2018 22:57:17 GMT
Well enlighten me then being a white Englishman who converted to Islam. I do not need to justify anything to you. I make no claim, other than stating I am am atheist. So, go on. Please justify your position. Just once An atheist who converted to Islam?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 23:10:38 GMT
I do not need to justify anything to you. I make no claim, other than stating I am am atheist. So, go on. Please justify your position. Just once An atheist who converted to Islam? Yep..work it out. Justify your position Go on, please..let's have a laugh..it's Christmas
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 21, 2018 23:32:26 GMT
Ok then here's one for the people who like stats and facts.According to the office of national statistics 84.2% of Somali women who reside in the UK do not work...Can anyone give an example of what positives Somali women offer UK society?? Squirting out a muslim annually is not a positive as it costs the NHS over £20k for every muslim added to their tribe by Somali women.There are a few hundred thousand Somali women in the UK breeding annually at a huge cost to the NHS and the British taxpayer...Please if anyone can give a reason how this helps UK society feel free....oldie Somalis are not a race so forget that worn out race card. Leaving aside the obvious diatribe, the definition of race is: each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group. So, Somalis are a race as they have a distinct physical characteristic (you will be familiar with the issues with the film Black Hawk Down) and clearly a distinct language, history and culture too. In fact, Local Government have a subdivision option on their race descriptions to cover this rather than a generic "Black African".
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 22, 2018 7:49:50 GMT
Ok then here's one for the people who like stats and facts.According to the office of national statistics 84.2% of Somali women who reside in the UK do not work...Can anyone give an example of what positives Somali women offer UK society?? Squirting out a muslim annually is not a positive as it costs the NHS over £20k for every muslim added to their tribe by Somali women.There are a few hundred thousand Somali women in the UK breeding annually at a huge cost to the NHS and the British taxpayer...Please if anyone can give a reason how this helps UK society feel free....oldie Somalis are not a race so forget that worn out race card. Squirting out a Muslim? Adding to their tribe? Breeding?? (A term normally used for animals) This is the problem Jag, you may think it smart that you can repeat an argument you have probably read on Stormfront or a NF flier but you give away your racist views in the way you present it. You could have asked the same question in a reasonable way without the need for such prejudice. There are some points in your post that can be easily picked apart and some that could possibly have merit, but you lose any credibility you may have had because of your blatant racism.
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Post by jaggas on Dec 22, 2018 22:17:19 GMT
I admit my description of Somalis are not to everyones liking but feel free to give examples of the positive contributions that the Somali community brings to British or even Bristols society...Bristol is the FGM capital of the UK thanks to the Somali community.Bristols only convictions for racist underage sexual grooming attack gangs were Somalis. The amount of Somali men claiming benefits and not working is close to the 80% mark according to the O.N.S.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 22, 2018 23:52:30 GMT
I admit my description of Somalis are not to everyones liking but feel free to give examples of the positive contributions that the Somali community brings to British or even Bristols society...Bristol is the FGM capital of the UK thanks to the Somali community.Bristols only convictions for racist underage sexual grooming attack gangs were Somalis. The amount of Somali men claiming benefits and not working is close to the 80% mark according to the O.N.S. Have you been reading David Craig and snouts-in-the-trough? Where did you get the FGM figures from? Whilst Bristol is high, it is not the capital of the UK by some margin. As for the unemployment rates, have you wondered why that might be? FGM, unemployment, lack of education and sexual abuse is not restricted to one group alone. The big question though is why pick on that particular community? There's many issues affecting different areas of society, you could have chosen others. Please explain and, if possible, answer some of the other outstanding questions too.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 23, 2018 6:48:51 GMT
Not singling out any groups, but the issue of unemployment and benefits is a massive problem.
Some simple things like compulsory English language tests prior to getting state handouts and some basic level maths abilities would help (other than in refugee cases)
Caps on the number of dependents benefit claimants can make is something that needs to be at least explored. (Not soley a race or immigration issue either)
It needs to be easier for people to work than to claim off the state.
My point being, that many of the issues Jag wants to beat Somalis with are fairly universal problems that are real and need to be addressed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 7:28:04 GMT
Not singling out any groups, but the issue of unemployment and benefits is a massive problem. Some simple things like compulsory English language tests prior to getting state handouts and some basic level maths abilities would help (other than in refugee cases) Caps on the number of dependents benefit claimants can make is something that needs to be at least explored. (Not soley a race or immigration issue either) It needs to be easier for people to work than to claim off the state. My point being, that many of the issues Jag wants to beat Somalis with are fairly universal problems that are real and need to be addressed. Housing, housing housing. As long as the combination of unemployment benefits, child benefits and housing benefits are higher in £ value terms than 40 hours on minimum wage, then there will be a problem.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 23, 2018 8:06:47 GMT
Not singling out any groups, but the issue of unemployment and benefits is a massive problem. Some simple things like compulsory English language tests prior to getting state handouts and some basic level maths abilities would help (other than in refugee cases) Caps on the number of dependents benefit claimants can make is something that needs to be at least explored. (Not soley a race or immigration issue either) It needs to be easier for people to work than to claim off the state. My point being, that many of the issues Jag wants to beat Somalis with are fairly universal problems that are real and need to be addressed. Housing, housing housing. As long as the combination of unemployment benefits, child benefits and housing benefits are higher in £ value terms than 40 hours on minimum wage, then there will be a problem. I don't disagree, but none of that is soley an immigration issue!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 9:16:41 GMT
Housing, housing housing. As long as the combination of unemployment benefits, child benefits and housing benefits are higher in £ value terms than 40 hours on minimum wage, then there will be a problem. I don't disagree, but none of that is soley an immigration issue! No absolutely. It's primarily an indigenous issue. Sorry if my post inferred otherwise. We have, at it's essence, an income distribution problem in the UK. It fed Brexit, this disenfrachisement also feeding anti immigration sentiment.
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Post by irene on Dec 29, 2018 10:24:57 GMT
Here’s a real made up word Jaggas is a Somalophobe
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Post by jaggas on Dec 30, 2018 14:22:37 GMT
And that's a BS word as a phobia is an irrational fear...Nothing irrational about having reservations about a demonic ideology spreading like cancer into civilised societies.As for the Somalis only a small minority have integrated found work and made a useful contribution in the countries they have invaded.The majority want to live by the same disgusting backward customs and values they fled from.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 18:30:15 GMT
And that's a BS word as a phobia is an irrational fear...Nothing irrational about having reservations about a demonic ideology spreading like cancer into civilised societies.As for the Somalis only a small minority have integrated found work and made a useful contribution in the countries they have invaded.The majority want to live by the same disgusting backward customs and values they fled from. 🐖🐷🐖
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Post by jaggas on Dec 30, 2018 19:19:24 GMT
And that's a BS word as a phobia is an irrational fear...Nothing irrational about having reservations about a demonic ideology spreading like cancer into civilised societies.As for the Somalis only a small minority have integrated found work and made a useful contribution in the countries they have invaded.The majority want to live by the same disgusting backward customs and values they fled from. 🐖🐷🐖 ❄❄❄
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 30, 2018 19:51:27 GMT
And that's a BS word as a phobia is an irrational fear...Nothing irrational about having reservations about a demonic ideology spreading like cancer into civilised societies.As for the Somalis only a small minority have integrated found work and made a useful contribution in the countries they have invaded.The majority want to live by the same disgusting backward customs and values they fled from. None of which is exclusive to Somalis so why the hatred of that community specifically? Do you live in Lawrence Hill?
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Post by jaggas on Dec 30, 2018 19:56:19 GMT
No I do not thankfully.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 30, 2018 20:07:54 GMT
Can you answer the first question too?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 20:49:56 GMT
Can you answer the first question too? And pigs might fly
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