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Post by thegasareback on Feb 23, 2019 19:09:29 GMT
People saying Sunderland were poor. They went two nil up and saw the game out without us having a shot on target. Two giant centre halves won all the important headers in the box and they had enough quality when it mattered. Mind you I think the whole world could see where McGeady was going. Why we didn’t get someone to drop back on to the post is really poor. Sunderland didn’t need to be any better than what they were.
As for us. Well I’m yet to see what Reilly offers. TN was on fire before a bad half v Shrews and hasn’t had a look since. How he isn’t starting, especially today on a decent pitch is bizarre. Also bizarre was the like for like sub with OC for Upson at 2-0 down.
We seemed to lack ideas big time. JCH won his fair share of first balls but we didn’t get enough bodies around him. He is definitely an improvement on Payne which is a positive.
I thought in general play Locks and TC were excellent, save for TC error for the corner. Grigg was totally ineffective.
If we persist with 442 I’d like to see THD play in front of JC on the left side. Need more natural quality there. Sercs doesn’t seem to be himself there. If the plan is to play with Abs and OC then I would want the wide players higher and TN as a 10 making a 4-2-3-1. At least then there’s more players higher up the pitch.
I totally agree about the atmosphere comments. It’s so quiet. On and off the pitch we are far too easy to play against at the mem.
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Post by oldgas on Feb 23, 2019 20:42:19 GMT
We were utter Shyte today. Reilly was in their number 12's pocket, and their keeper could have brought a picnic, flask and deckchair and enjoyed a pleasant afternoon in the sun, he had that little to do.
Why the f uck Coughlin persists with Sercs on the left wing is beyond me. Doesn't he have someone in the dev. squad who can play on the right so that Sercs can move into the middle where he might be able to insert some influence.
I left just before the final whistle, but I hope Coughlin kept his word and stood in the centre circle at the end for a richly deserved round of booing, whistles and cat-calls.
Utter, utter Shyte with a dearth of ideas or tactics. Carry on like that and we are down. (Again, FFS)
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Post by pirate on Feb 23, 2019 20:48:46 GMT
Sunderland made the game look easy, because they did the simple things well, where as we just looked to lump it long and play off JCH, who had little or no support. We struggle to string 2 or 3 passes together and our set pieces, crossing and final ball were all abysmal. A very poor performance.
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Post by gasforeverman on Feb 23, 2019 20:53:49 GMT
An easy win for sunderland.. We lack qaulity and our home form and performances bare that out. The atmosphere was dire and chatting to sunderland fans after they said they hadnt played well but we were thoothless
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Post by kruger on Feb 23, 2019 21:02:23 GMT
Best bit of the game was when that Sunderland fan fell over
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 21:59:45 GMT
People saying Sunderland were poor. They went two nil up and saw the game out without us having a shot on target. Two giant centre halves won all the important headers in the box and they had enough quality when it mattered. Mind you I think the whole world could see where McGeady was going. Why we didn’t get someone to drop back on to the post is really poor. Sunderland didn’t need to be any better than what they were. As for us. Well I’m yet to see what Reilly offers. TN was on fire before a bad half v Shrews and hasn’t had a look since. How he isn’t starting, especially today on a decent pitch is bizarre. Also bizarre was the like for like sub with OC for Upson at 2-0 down. We seemed to lack ideas big time. JCH won his fair share of first balls but we didn’t get enough bodies around him. He is definitely an improvement on Payne which is a positive. I thought in general play Locks and TC were excellent, save for TC error for the corner. Grigg was totally ineffective. If we persist with 442 I’d like to see THD play in front of JC on the left side. Need more natural quality there. Sercs doesn’t seem to be himself there. If the plan is to play with Abs and OC then I would want the wide players higher and TN as a 10 making a 4-2-3-1. At least then there’s more players higher up the pitch. I totally agree about the atmosphere comments. It’s so quiet. On and off the pitch we are far too easy to play against at the mem. You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. |
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Feb 23, 2019 22:07:01 GMT
People saying Sunderland were poor. They went two nil up and saw the game out without us having a shot on target. Two giant centre halves won all the important headers in the box and they had enough quality when it mattered. Mind you I think the whole world could see where McGeady was going. Why we didn’t get someone to drop back on to the post is really poor. Sunderland didn’t need to be any better than what they were. As for us. Well I’m yet to see what Reilly offers. TN was on fire before a bad half v Shrews and hasn’t had a look since. How he isn’t starting, especially today on a decent pitch is bizarre. Also bizarre was the like for like sub with OC for Upson at 2-0 down. We seemed to lack ideas big time. JCH won his fair share of first balls but we didn’t get enough bodies around him. He is definitely an improvement on Payne which is a positive. I thought in general play Locks and TC were excellent, save for TC error for the corner. Grigg was totally ineffective. If we persist with 442 I’d like to see THD play in front of JC on the left side. Need more natural quality there. Sercs doesn’t seem to be himself there. If the plan is to play with Abs and OC then I would want the wide players higher and TN as a 10 making a 4-2-3-1. At least then there’s more players higher up the pitch. I totally agree about the atmosphere comments. It’s so quiet. On and off the pitch we are far too easy to play against at the mem. You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. Sunderland did it themselves in the 2nd half from Sercombes free kick. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 22:23:44 GMT
You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. Sunderland did it themselves in the 2nd half from Sercombes free kick. If they did and we can check the highlights then why on earth didnt we have players stood in front of the keeper and the player on the line? Logically if your team put players on the line for such free kicks it would be virtually impossible to score but the offside rule makes it an unlikely tactic. Hopefully they will put the rovers free kick in the highlights and i will come on here and say your correct. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 23, 2019 22:34:34 GMT
Sunderland did it themselves in the 2nd half from Sercombes free kick. If they did and we can check the highlights then why on earth didnt we have players stood in front of the keeper and the player on the line? Logically if your team put players on the line for such free kicks it would be virtually impossible to score but the offside rule makes it an unlikely tactic. Hopefully they will put the rovers free kick in the highlights and i will come on here and say your correct. Yeah, it's on the Sky highlights, the bloke ran back to the line just before Clarke began his run up, and it looked like no one was bright enough to follow him. I guess if you don't know he's gonna do it, you don't have time to organise a dink onto a striker. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 22:40:06 GMT
If they did and we can check the highlights then why on earth didnt we have players stood in front of the keeper and the player on the line? Logically if your team put players on the line for such free kicks it would be virtually impossible to score but the offside rule makes it an unlikely tactic. Hopefully they will put the rovers free kick in the highlights and i will come on here and say your correct. Yeah, it's on the Sky highlights, the bloke ran back to the line just before Clarke began his run up, and it looked like no one was bright enough to follow him. It does sum us up a bit i suppose,you often see teams try to do it but then abandon the idea when a forward stands in front of the keeper. Bit like the short corner sunderland took when they scored,any western league team would know you need 2 players to prevent a short corner but we allowed them to take one and cross from a good 10 yards closer to our goal. |
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 24, 2019 7:24:24 GMT
You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. Sunderland did it themselves in the 2nd half from Sercombes free kick. Could put it in a training manual. How to score from a free kick, and how to defend one. |
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Post by blueridge on Feb 24, 2019 8:53:56 GMT
I.e. those teams have played more games than us, so this fitness / midweek games argument doesn't really stack up. Bottom line is that I strongly believe we used to be fitter (or have more stamina...)than many teams [hence the late comebacks] and for some reason, maybe just the reality of two promotions, other teams now often look sharper, fitter and faster than us. Yeah, we also used to play with purpose and seemed to stick to the plan late in the game, but these days we just look aimless in the last 10. We've looked "aimless" the last twelve months. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 24, 2019 9:19:08 GMT
I don't think GC knows how to change a game or play any other formation other than 4-4-2. I can't remember him making a sub that has won us a game. Yesterday, he just brought on like for like.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2019 10:58:05 GMT
People saying Sunderland were poor. They went two nil up and saw the game out without us having a shot on target. Two giant centre halves won all the important headers in the box and they had enough quality when it mattered. Mind you I think the whole world could see where McGeady was going. Why we didn’t get someone to drop back on to the post is really poor. Sunderland didn’t need to be any better than what they were. As for us. Well I’m yet to see what Reilly offers. TN was on fire before a bad half v Shrews and hasn’t had a look since. How he isn’t starting, especially today on a decent pitch is bizarre. Also bizarre was the like for like sub with OC for Upson at 2-0 down. We seemed to lack ideas big time. JCH won his fair share of first balls but we didn’t get enough bodies around him. He is definitely an improvement on Payne which is a positive. I thought in general play Locks and TC were excellent, save for TC error for the corner. Grigg was totally ineffective. If we persist with 442 I’d like to see THD play in front of JC on the left side. Need more natural quality there. Sercs doesn’t seem to be himself there. If the plan is to play with Abs and OC then I would want the wide players higher and TN as a 10 making a 4-2-3-1. At least then there’s more players higher up the pitch. I totally agree about the atmosphere comments. It’s so quiet. On and off the pitch we are far too easy to play against at the mem. You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. There was a Sunderland defender on the post when Sercs had a similar free kick? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2019 11:01:07 GMT
I don't think GC knows how to change a game or play any other formation other than 4-4-2. I can't remember him making a sub that has won us a game. Yesterday, he just brought on like for like. Sercs moved to the top of a CM diamond, although our problem is we nothing left on the bench to change a game, it's just strikers or CM's. Perhaps we need to give Matthews more game? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 11:07:41 GMT
I don't think GC knows how to change a game or play any other formation other than 4-4-2. I can't remember him making a sub that has won us a game. Yesterday, he just brought on like for like. Sercs moved to the top of a CM diamond, although our problem is we nothing left on the bench to change a game, it's just strikers or CM's. Perhaps we need to give Matthews more game? Mathews like GR not strong or good enough imo. |
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Post by Gassy on Feb 24, 2019 11:14:46 GMT
A like Matthews, he will turn out to be a good player for us if we keep him.
We’re too quick to write young players off before giving them a chance to develop.
A few years later when they’re playing in the league above us, we then moan that we let them go or didn’t play them enough
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 24, 2019 11:29:11 GMT
People saying Sunderland were poor. They went two nil up and saw the game out without us having a shot on target. Two giant centre halves won all the important headers in the box and they had enough quality when it mattered. Mind you I think the whole world could see where McGeady was going. Why we didn’t get someone to drop back on to the post is really poor. Sunderland didn’t need to be any better than what they were. As for us. Well I’m yet to see what Reilly offers. TN was on fire before a bad half v Shrews and hasn’t had a look since. How he isn’t starting, especially today on a decent pitch is bizarre. Also bizarre was the like for like sub with OC for Upson at 2-0 down. We seemed to lack ideas big time. JCH won his fair share of first balls but we didn’t get enough bodies around him. He is definitely an improvement on Payne which is a positive. I thought in general play Locks and TC were excellent, save for TC error for the corner. Grigg was totally ineffective. If we persist with 442 I’d like to see THD play in front of JC on the left side. Need more natural quality there. Sercs doesn’t seem to be himself there. If the plan is to play with Abs and OC then I would want the wide players higher and TN as a 10 making a 4-2-3-1. At least then there’s more players higher up the pitch. I totally agree about the atmosphere comments. It’s so quiet. On and off the pitch we are far too easy to play against at the mem. 100% agree with this.
Nichols was outstanding at Southend - the best performance of any Rovers player this season - and is or most creative player. He has more assists than any other player in the squad because he's the only one who has the intelligence and ability to pick a pass. Nichols and THD are the best footballers at the club and should be starting every game.
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Post by strads1983 on Feb 24, 2019 12:43:04 GMT
Bit of perspective. Just look at the Sunderland squad, full of quality and not a league one team / club. Lost 2-0, no great shame in that. It’s the teams in and around us we need to batter! Onwards and upwards! UTG
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 13:14:39 GMT
You cannot put a defender on the post in that situation,you wont see it in any league game for totally obvious reasons. There was a Sunderland defender on the post when Sercs had a similar free kick? Discussed that point earlier in the thread but nobody should be able to get away with putting a defender on the line in pro football. |
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