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Post by Officer Barbrady on May 28, 2019 11:25:01 GMT
Someone help me out here - can we expect the new Tory leader candidates to become harder or softer on Brexit? Harder seems the natural conclusion but just looking at Gove and Hunts comments recently, is it actually more likely to be softer as no deal backer would force a no confidence vote that they would likely lose?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 28, 2019 12:39:00 GMT
Someone help me out here - can we expect the new Tory leader candidates to become harder or softer on Brexit? Harder seems the natural conclusion but just looking at Gove and Hunts comments recently, is it actually more likely to be softer as no deal backer would force a no confidence vote that they would likely lose? The rule of thumb I go by is don't believe that what a career politician says is what they will do in office. It is a Mexican Standoff, Parliament will likely collapse under a vote of no confidence and then a GE. The question is timing and what happens then. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 19:28:34 GMT
Hunt says that he may have to delay Brexit again to avoid a No Deal exit - That's him finished.
Rabb - Today produced a video where he talks about a 'fairer Britain' - Don't these people realise that useless platitudes like that turn people away. Of course nobody wants an unfair society, but his words mean nothing. He's already finished.
So far, and hold your breath, but the only potential Tory leader who has spoken any sense is Esther McVey !
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Post by stuart1974 on May 28, 2019 22:28:59 GMT
Newspapers suggesting Hunt losing support to Gove.
Bercow staying on apparently, who also confirms Parliament can prevent leaving on WTO terms.
So, new leader by end of July, no renegotiation and no 'no deal'. GE before the year is out?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 6:05:01 GMT
Newspapers suggesting Hunt losing support to Gove. Bercow staying on apparently, who also confirms Parliament can prevent leaving on WTO terms. So, new leader by end of July, no renegotiation and no 'no deal'. GE before the year is out? Gove will not make it. He's too slimy. His pledge yesterday to give citizenship to 3 million EU nationals was just wrong. They should stop trying to jump through hoops to appease the EU. Where is his concern for UK nationals living in the EU? It was just a pointless exercise. A GE? I hope so. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:03:18 GMT
Interesting...The bottom eight can be binned straight away.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 9:31:20 GMT
I'd be happy with the top two on that chart. Steve Baker for PM, with Pritti Patel as his No.2
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Post by peterparker on May 29, 2019 10:37:17 GMT
So hypothetical.
If a new PM has us leave with No Deal. do they call a GE? No deal means they potentially lose the support of the DUP and the numbers in Parliment are narrow to get anything done as is
What happens if they called a GE and lose? how long does that leader last? Do they risk that
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 11:30:25 GMT
So hypothetical. If a new PM has us leave with No Deal. do they call a GE? No deal means they potentially lose the support of the DUP and the numbers in Parliment are narrow to get anything done as is What happens if they called a GE and lose? how long does that leader last? Do they risk that The DUP will accept No Deal. Both the Tories and Labour are currently terrified of a GE soon. The only hope they both have is time, but the longer they both carry on with their current policies, the more support drains away from them. They both need a radical re-think. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 13:09:12 GMT
One for South Stand Ultra who thought I was making this up. But Johnson is now in the dock. Boris Johnson must go on trial for 'lying and misleading' in Brexit campaign, judge orders flip.it/mBFjSF |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:17:45 GMT
One for South Stand Ultra who thought I was making this up. But Johnson is now in the dock. Boris Johnson must go on trial for 'lying and misleading' in Brexit campaign, judge orders flip.it/mBFjSFA nonsense case, and it is a private prosecution. I think the Junior Judge here has had a bad day. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:21:57 GMT
One for South Stand Ultra who thought I was making this up. But Johnson is now in the dock. Boris Johnson must go on trial for 'lying and misleading' in Brexit campaign, judge orders flip.it/mBFjSFA nonsense case, and it is a private prosecution. I think the Junior Judge here has had a bad day. Well, the legal people saw enough to refer the case to the Crown Court. Regardless of the outcome, the sight of Johnson being interrogated by a QC will be absolutely delicious. |
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Post by peterparker on May 29, 2019 15:33:10 GMT
A nonsense case, and it is a private prosecution. I think the Junior Judge here has had a bad day. Well, the legal people saw enough to refer the case to the Crown Court. Regardless of the outcome, the sight of Johnson being interrogated by a QC will be absolutely delicious. The least it should do is hopefullu keep the Dam shyster away from being Prime Minister |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:38:34 GMT
Well, the legal people saw enough to refer the case to the Crown Court. Regardless of the outcome, the sight of Johnson being interrogated by a QC will be absolutely delicious. The least it should do is hopefullu keep the f**king shyster away from being Prime Minister We can only hope. Can we take Farage to court as well? Or is being dense not a crime? |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:49:23 GMT
The least it should do is hopefullu keep the f**king shyster away from being Prime Minister We can only hope. Can we take Farage to court as well? Or is being dense not a crime? Best get this lot lined up for a court case as well......Bank of England, Treasury Officials, CBI, IMF, Cameron, Osbourne, Union Officials, various newspaper editors....the list is endless. It is a nonsense case. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 17:19:13 GMT
We can only hope. Can we take Farage to court as well? Or is being dense not a crime? Best get this lot lined up for a court case as well......Bank of England, Treasury Officials, CBI, IMF, Cameron, Osbourne, Union Officials, various newspaper editors....the list is endless. It is a nonsense case. Interesting that with all the slippery funny money from A Banks etc, none of the Remain campaign are facing the same problem. It would be great to have Johnson televised facing a determined and skilled QC. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 20:18:01 GMT
The least it should do is hopefullu keep the f**king shyster away from being Prime Minister We can only hope. Can we take Farage to court as well? Or is being dense not a crime? Nigel Farage dense? Well, he did work "in the city" for 25 years, so I suppose that could explain it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 20:29:04 GMT
We can only hope. Can we take Farage to court as well? Or is being dense not a crime? Nigel Farage dense? Well, he did work "in the city" for 25 years, so I suppose that could explain it. Ha ha, yes, perhaps. But whatever his geographic location he is undoubtedly a half witted chancer. |
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Post by peterparker on May 30, 2019 12:22:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 13:23:41 GMT
Wow, just wow. A Tory saying it like it is. His reference to the ERG and Patrick Minford is spot on. Points denied by the pro leave camp on here. |
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