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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 4, 2019 10:17:14 GMT
James Cleverly is withdrawing, Michael Gove to meet Trump later today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 10:37:37 GMT
James Cleverly is withdrawing, Michael Gove to meet Trump later today. The simple fact is that the new PM has to leave the EU on Oct 31st. May's treaty is dead, so it has to be with No Deal. If he/she fails to deliver that, then it's the end of the Tory Party. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 4, 2019 13:39:01 GMT
James Cleverly is withdrawing, Michael Gove to meet Trump later today. The simple fact is that the new PM has to leave the EU on Oct 31st. May's treaty is dead, so it has to be with No Deal. If he/she fails to deliver that, then it's the end of the Tory Party. Yay!!! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 4, 2019 13:47:49 GMT
The simple fact is that the new PM has to leave the EU on Oct 31st. May's treaty is dead, so it has to be with No Deal. If he/she fails to deliver that, then it's the end of the Tory Party. Yay!!! Where is the incentive to leave??? 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 13:59:56 GMT
The simple fact is that the new PM has to leave the EU on Oct 31st. May's treaty is dead, so it has to be with No Deal. If he/she fails to deliver that, then it's the end of the Tory Party. Yay!!! Ha ha. Off with their heads. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 14:42:51 GMT
Where is the incentive to leave??? 🤔 For the Tories, it's their survival as a political party. If the Brexit Party win big on Thursday, it may herald the start of the defections as MP's finally realise that the game is up. The MP's dismiss local election results. The same with the EU results. However, Thursday COULD be a game changer. It only needs a handful to switch to the Brexit Party, and suddenly the Tories will not have a majority in the HoC. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 4, 2019 15:32:59 GMT
Where is the incentive to leave??? 🤔 For the Tories, it's their survival as a political party. If the Brexit Party win big on Thursday, it may herald the start of the defections as MP's finally realise that the game is up. The MP's dismiss local election results. The same with the EU results. However, Thursday COULD be a game changer. It only needs a handful to switch to the Brexit Party, and suddenly the Tories will not have a majority in the HoC. All joking aside, Thursday will have an impact on the next Conservative leader. If the Brexit Party win big then it will give imputous to a more ERG backed leader. The margin of victory will be the thing to look out for. In 2016, Peterborough voted 61/39 to leave. In the recent EU elections, the percentages were: Brexit Party 38.1% Labour 17.1% Liberal Democrats 15.3% Conservatives 10.8% Greens 10.7% Ukip 3.6% Change UK 3% English Democrats 0.7% (Roughly 54/46) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 17:09:35 GMT
For the Tories, it's their survival as a political party. If the Brexit Party win big on Thursday, it may herald the start of the defections as MP's finally realise that the game is up. The MP's dismiss local election results. The same with the EU results. However, Thursday COULD be a game changer. It only needs a handful to switch to the Brexit Party, and suddenly the Tories will not have a majority in the HoC. All joking aside, Thursday will have an impact on the next Conservative leader. If the Brexit Party win big then it will give imputous to a more ERG backed leader. The margin of victory will be the thing to look out for. In 2016, Peterborough voted 61/39 to leave. In the recent EU elections, the percentages were: Brexit Party 38.1% Labour 17.1% Liberal Democrats 15.3% Conservatives 10.8% Greens 10.7% Ukip 3.6% Change UK 3% English Democrats 0.7% (Roughly 54/46) There is little doubt, I would have thought, that the Brexit Party will gain their first duly elected MP. From my personal point of view I rather hope they do. At least, I would hope, that this may galvanise the socially liberal, free market internationalist centre to finally get their act together to resist this drift to the illiberal right. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:11:33 GMT
All joking aside, Thursday will have an impact on the next Conservative leader. If the Brexit Party win big then it will give imputous to a more ERG backed leader. The margin of victory will be the thing to look out for. In 2016, Peterborough voted 61/39 to leave. In the recent EU elections, the percentages were: Brexit Party 38.1% Labour 17.1% Liberal Democrats 15.3% Conservatives 10.8% Greens 10.7% Ukip 3.6% Change UK 3% English Democrats 0.7% (Roughly 54/46) There is little doubt, I would have thought, that the Brexit Party will gain their first duly elected MP. From my personal point of view I rather hope they do. At least, I would hope, that this may galvanise the socially liberal, free market internationalist centre to finally get their act together to resist this drift to the illiberal right. Explain to us all how the Brexit Party forms the illiberal right? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:13:40 GMT
In other news, ChangeUK have split up! What a waste of space they were.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:25:55 GMT
There is little doubt, I would have thought, that the Brexit Party will gain their first duly elected MP. From my personal point of view I rather hope they do. At least, I would hope, that this may galvanise the socially liberal, free market internationalist centre to finally get their act together to resist this drift to the illiberal right. Explain to us all how the Brexit Party forms the illiberal right? You really want me to? But before we get into it, they dont form it, that suggests an intellectual capacity they do not possess. But they represent it, in a typically simplistic manner. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 4, 2019 19:14:06 GMT
Down to 11 now with Kit Nalthouse stepping aside. Rule changes accepted with candidates now needing 8 backers to stand. Closing date is 10 June at 5pm.
New leader announced on 22 July, giving then 3 nonths before the Brexit deadline.
So the future of the country is being decided by something like 160 MPs and 63,000 members (total of 312 MPs and 124,000 members). Personally I have always thought a new party leader should havd to call a GE within 12 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 19:17:25 GMT
Down to 11 now with Kit Nalthouse stepping aside. Rule changes accepted with candidates now needing 8 backers to stand. Closing date is 10 June at 5pm. New leader announced on 22 July, giving then 3 nonths before the Brexit deadline. So the future of the country is being decided by something like 160 MPs and 63,000 members (total of 312 MPs and 124,000 members). Personally I have always thought a new party leader should havd to call a GE within 12 months. Too true. So much for UK sovereignty and democracy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 19:40:55 GMT
I see the leader of the Brexit Party is on notice to explain all the money that has come his way over the last couple of years whilst he took money (taxpayers) as an MEP.
This is going to be interesting.
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Post by althepirate on Jun 4, 2019 20:25:51 GMT
Down to 11 now with Kit Nalthouse stepping aside. Rule changes accepted with candidates now needing 8 backers to stand. Closing date is 10 June at 5pm. New leader announced on 22 July, giving then 3 nonths before the Brexit deadline. So the future of the country is being decided by something like 160 MPs and 63,000 members (total of 312 MPs and 124,000 members). Personally I have always thought a new party leader should havd to call a GE within 12 months. Too true. So much for UK sovereignty and democracy. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣😅😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 21:47:54 GMT
Too true. So much for UK sovereignty and democracy. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣😅😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 3:55:09 GMT
Down to 11 now with Kit Nalthouse stepping aside. Rule changes accepted with candidates now needing 8 backers to stand. Closing date is 10 June at 5pm. New leader announced on 22 July, giving then 3 nonths before the Brexit deadline. So the future of the country is being decided by something like 160 MPs and 63,000 members (total of 312 MPs and 124,000 members). Personally I have always thought a new party leader should havd to call a GE within 12 months. Too true. So much for UK sovereignty and democracy. Nonsense. This is the way it has always worked. Nobody voted for Churchill to be PM. Also, in the same way that in Germany Merkel is elected by her own party, not the nation. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2019 6:35:37 GMT
Too true. So much for UK sovereignty and democracy. Nonsense. This is the way it has always worked. Nobody voted for Churchill to be PM. Also, in the same way that in Germany Merkel is elected by her own party, not the nation. It's almost as if we live in a representative democracy 😉 It would be comparable to Gordon Brown signing the Lisbon Treaty, what could possibly go wrong??? Churchill was voted out at the first time of asking, elected in 1950. |
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Post by aghast on Jun 5, 2019 17:09:24 GMT
For the Tories, it's their survival as a political party. If the Brexit Party win big on Thursday, it may herald the start of the defections as MP's finally realise that the game is up. The MP's dismiss local election results. The same with the EU results. However, Thursday COULD be a game changer. It only needs a handful to switch to the Brexit Party, and suddenly the Tories will not have a majority in the HoC. All joking aside, Thursday will have an impact on the next Conservative leader. If the Brexit Party win big then it will give imputous to a more ERG backed leader. The margin of victory will be the thing to look out for. In 2016, Peterborough voted 61/39 to leave. In the recent EU elections, the percentages were: Brexit Party 38.1% Labour 17.1% Liberal Democrats 15.3% Conservatives 10.8% Greens 10.7% Ukip 3.6% Change UK 3% English Democrats 0.7% (Roughly 54/46) They don't like those damn foreigners in Peterborough, do they? They might think differently when they don't get their parcels because nobody is left to work the night shift at the Amazon warehouse, and a cheap and reliable plumber is a thing of the past. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 13:57:14 GMT
All joking aside, Thursday will have an impact on the next Conservative leader. If the Brexit Party win big then it will give imputous to a more ERG backed leader. The margin of victory will be the thing to look out for. In 2016, Peterborough voted 61/39 to leave. In the recent EU elections, the percentages were: Brexit Party 38.1% Labour 17.1% Liberal Democrats 15.3% Conservatives 10.8% Greens 10.7% Ukip 3.6% Change UK 3% English Democrats 0.7% (Roughly 54/46) They don't like those damn foreigners in Peterborough, do they? They might think differently when they don't get their parcels because nobody is left to work the night shift at the Amazon warehouse, and a cheap and reliable plumber is a thing of the past. No point in pointing this sort of thing out Aghast. It just causes upset.😜 |
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