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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 24, 2019 10:24:45 GMT
Lovely.
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Post by tommym9 on Jul 24, 2019 10:25:05 GMT
I understand you're going to attract some racists and nutters, but this kind of talk is proper dog whistle stuff. Unless I'm reading this completely wrong of course. Thats because people have already decided it's a right wing group without looking for themselves, when i read what you highlighted my first thoughts were not muslims, but the fekless oiks walking around openly peddling drugs ,knifing each other etc, you know dare i say it those british kids , the difference being i read that sentence with an open mind (just like the nhs and 350 million posters , (the majority read it as a promise which was wrong) Just posted what Hope not Hate said about the DFLA. I had read that previously so I will admit I went onto the DFLA site thinking they were far-right. Speaking to windesgas and looking on the site and another lad on twitter I can see that not all DFLA members are huge racists, but the language used on their comms has an under current of it. I don't know if it is intentional but if they want to disuade far right nutters from being drawn to the group they need to have a look at their comms.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 24, 2019 16:52:55 GMT
Thats because people have already decided it's a right wing group without looking for themselves, when i read what you highlighted my first thoughts were not muslims, but the fekless oiks walking around openly peddling drugs ,knifing each other etc, you know dare i say it those british kids , the difference being i read that sentence with an open mind (just like the nhs and 350 million posters , (the majority read it as a promise which was wrong) Just posted what Hope not Hate said about the DFLA. I had read that previously so I will admit I went onto the DFLA site thinking they were far-right. Speaking to windesgas and looking on the site and another lad on twitter I can see that not all DFLA members are huge racists, but the language used on their comms has an under current of it. I don't know if it is intentional but if they want to disuade far right nutters from being drawn to the group they need to have a look at their comms. And the same goes for if they want to attract anyone from the center or left I shouldn't wonder.
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Post by aghast on Jul 24, 2019 17:05:52 GMT
Another extreme right wing group using slightly moderated language to achieve their hateful aims. They're learning. Hopefully no one will be taken in by it. Would you mind explaining what makes us extreme right...... Because the website bears little relationship to the safe mission statement. All you need to know is in there. It's the usual stuff with a sugar coating.
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Post by aghast on Jul 24, 2019 17:29:38 GMT
Another extreme right wing group using slightly moderated language to achieve their hateful aims. They're learning. Hopefully no one will be taken in by it. What hatefull aims are those as usual there doesn't seem to be any Oh come on. It's just the same as the rest of them. Now that's not to say that every supporter of the group is racist or bigoted, but if they're not, they're in the wrong group. These right wing groups pop up all the time, often hiding behind labels such as football fans, or anti-paedos. The days of coming out and being honest, if nasty, like the NF and BNP were, have gone. So they present themselves publically a bit differently. This lot seem the same to me. I've looked at the website and read about their methods and demonstrations. I'm not going to quote links and news because no-one reads the links. But my opinion is that they are not being honest about what they believe.
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 24, 2019 18:02:39 GMT
What hatefull aims are those as usual there doesn't seem to be any Oh come on. It's just the same as the rest of them. Now that's not to say that every supporter of the group is racist or bigoted, but if they're not, they're in the wrong group. These right wing groups pop up all the time, often hiding behind labels such as football fans, or anti-paedos. The days of coming out and being honest, if nasty, like the NF and BNP were, have gone. So they present themselves publically a bit differently. This lot seem the same to me. I've looked at the website and read about their methods and demonstrations. I'm not going to quote links and news because no-one reads the links. But my opinion is that they are not being honest about what they believe. We have protested against paedos as you put it and the horrific grooming scandals. We visited Telford and Rochdale where we protested outside the police and social services head quarters.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 25, 2019 7:31:36 GMT
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 25, 2019 9:36:27 GMT
I would just like to point out that the Resisting Hate article was never going to show us in a good light were they! 98% of the people named we have never heard of. Take note they have supplied no evidence of any of these peoples links to us. And when it comes to comments... Check the BBC or Sky News Facebook pages you will find much much worse on there. At least we try to Monitor our pages while the MSM leave there's!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 25, 2019 11:01:29 GMT
I would just like to point out that the Resisting Hate article was never going to show us in a good light were they! 98% of the people named we have never heard of. Take note they have supplied no evidence of any of these peoples links to us. And when it comes to comments... Check the BBC or Sky News Facebook pages you will find much much worse on there. At least we try to Monitor our pages while the MSM leave there's! Why do you think that may be?
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 25, 2019 11:29:58 GMT
I would just like to point out that the Resisting Hate article was never going to show us in a good light were they! 98% of the people named we have never heard of. Take note they have supplied no evidence of any of these peoples links to us. And when it comes to comments... Check the BBC or Sky News Facebook pages you will find much much worse on there. At least we try to Monitor our pages while the MSM leave there's! Why do you think that may be? Because they are Antifa. Simple really.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 25, 2019 12:39:19 GMT
Why do you think that may be? Because they are Antifa. Simple really. but you are not even far right I hear?
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 25, 2019 13:04:15 GMT
Because they are Antifa. Simple really. but you are not even far right I hear? No but when as that ever mattered.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 25, 2019 13:19:56 GMT
So the far right think you are far right and the far left think you are far right? At least you've managed to get them to agree on something.
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 25, 2019 14:12:55 GMT
So the far right think you are far right and the far left think you are far right? At least you've managed to get them to agree on something. No the far left think we are nazis and the far right think we are lefties 😉
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Post by widnesgas71 on Jul 25, 2019 14:14:02 GMT
So the far right think you are far right and the far left think you are far right? At least you've managed to get them to agree on something. No the far left think we are nazis and the far right think we are lefties 😉 By that I mean certain far right groups like Combat 18!
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