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Post by spiess1 on Aug 30, 2019 10:46:45 GMT
If only they taught Clear Thinking and Clear Expression in school, eh.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 30, 2019 10:47:05 GMT
On the IRA song, why do we feel the need to sing about the IRA? It’s 2019, do they even do anything over here any more?
It’s not like we sing about ISIS is it? And why would we?
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 10:47:11 GMT
Can we still tell Akinfenwa that his tits are offside, or would that cause offence?? As I only play six a side and there's no offside rule this is fine. My tits are always onside. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 10:47:48 GMT
ironically the whole disturbing topic of people wanting to dictate the vocabulary others use makes me uneasy.  Oi, leave me out of this! |
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 30, 2019 10:48:46 GMT
Can we still tell Akinfenwa that his tits are offside, or would that cause offence?? Only to the tits on here. (Form an orderly queue). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 10:49:07 GMT
This threads a belter! I’ve already gone through 3 bags of popcorn.  Fat barsteward. |
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Post by betterdeadthaninbred on Aug 30, 2019 10:54:14 GMT
“We don’t sing about ISIS” We don’t sing about Goldie either. Therefore I would suggest we treat both teams in the Boat Race equally and fairly?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 30, 2019 10:54:14 GMT
Can we still tell Akinfenwa that his tits are offside, or would that cause offence?? As I only play six a side and there's no offside rule this is fine. My tits are always onside.
Ah but that could make them goal-hangers
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 10:54:57 GMT
As I only play six a side and there's no offside rule this is fine. My tits are always onside.
Ah but that could make them goal-hangers
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Post by jamieb1986 on Aug 30, 2019 11:12:37 GMT
Hi guys, hope you don’t mind a bit of outside input on this subject! I’m from Scotland but currently living in the south west for work and I’ve been taking in as many games at as many different grounds as possible while I’m here. On Tuesday I came down to Bristol and stood on the north terrace. Thoroughly enjoyed the game, was gutted for you when Brighton got the winner and loved the celebrations at your (superb) equaliser!
However, I was pretty taken aback by the homophobic chanting to be honest. It was widespread, sustained and varied. I was surprised just how many people joined in and seemed to think it was ok. In Scotland there is a severe issue with (predominately) Rangers and Celtic fans singing ridiculous sectarian stuff and every time it happens it’s major news. Even when one or two idiots at a smaller team come out with an odd daft chant it becomes an issue. If most of a busy terrace joined in with three or four different homophobic songs repeatedly over an entire half of football you wouldn’t hear the end of it for months. It as pretty grating to the e@r of an outsider.
A bit disappointing because I thought the backing you guys gave your team throughout was exceptional, the atmosphere on the terrace was otherwise brilliant and it was good to stand on that kind of terrace again after quite some time - my team back home are in the Premiership and everywhere is all seater so we don’t get that chance often!
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Post by inee on Aug 30, 2019 11:13:07 GMT
On the IRA song, why do we feel the need to sing about the IRA? It’s 2019, do they even do anything over here any more? It’s not like we sing about ISIS is it? And why would we? Im pretty sure there was an anti isis chant a few years back, and that was whined at too yes it's 2019 and yes they are still active |
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 30, 2019 11:24:26 GMT
Hi guys, hope you don’t mind a bit of outside input on this subject! I’m from Scotland but currently living in the south west for work and I’ve been taking in as many games at as many different grounds as possible while I’m here. On Tuesday I came down to Bristol and stood on the north terrace. Thoroughly enjoyed the game, was gutted for you when Brighton got the winner and loved the celebrations at your (superb) equaliser! However, I was pretty taken aback by the homophobic chanting to be honest. It was widespread, sustained and varied. I was surprised just how many people joined in and seemed to think it was ok. In Scotland there is a severe issue with (predominately) Rangers and Celtic fans singing ridiculous sectarian stuff and every time it happens it’s major news. Even when one or two idiots at a smaller team come out with an odd daft chant it becomes an issue. If most of a busy terrace joined in with three or four different homophobic songs repeatedly over an entire half of football you wouldn’t hear the end of it for months. It as pretty grating to the e@r of an outsider. A bit disappointing because I thought the backing you guys gave your team throughout was exceptional, the atmosphere on the terrace was otherwise brilliant and it was good to stand on that kind of terrace again after quite some time - my team back home are in the Premiership and everywhere is all seater so we don’t get that chance often! Thank you for coming on and offering up your view as a neutral. Pleasing to hear you had a great time on the Thatchers End (and no doubt had a cracking view of Nichols strike) yet I’m mortified you’ve gone away from our club, with the mindless ramblings of our minority of cretins ringing in your ears. I can only assume that being the reason you’ve arrived here in the first place. Perhaps it’ll take us having to suffer the shame of a Thatchers End closure for a league game, to make the ‘sing what we like’ group finally realise some things are unacceptable in 2019. Much like Rangers have in Europe, back up North. |
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Post by althepirate on Aug 30, 2019 11:27:52 GMT
Yes abuse is abuse, if you start drawing lines we will be in a complete mess, drawing lines for favoured groups and ignoring others is plainly unfair. Besides are you one of those who think that criticism really motivates people? It certainly motivates you to answer back which you do forever, but the players can't answer back so I suppose you think that's fair. I don't think you've thought this through. At the risk of answering you back, coz I realise you've got a problem with it, this is gibberish. The idea that a spectrum of activities that can be described in broad terms by the same word must always be the same thing is self-evidently ridiculous. Out of interest are you saying that we should be allowed to come up with the worst sort of racist abuse, or are you saying that we shouldn't be allowed to sing 'you're sh** and you know you are?' Oh I love you AF and your same tactic of accusing a poster of something they aren't guilty of and then having an endless argument about it. Do you write the scripts for EastEnders by any chance? Copy and paste where I've said I have a problem with people answering back? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2019 11:31:33 GMT
At the risk of answering you back, coz I realise you've got a problem with it, this is gibberish. The idea that a spectrum of activities that can be described in broad terms by the same word must always be the same thing is self-evidently ridiculous. Out of interest are you saying that we should be allowed to come up with the worst sort of racist abuse, or are you saying that we shouldn't be allowed to sing 'you're sh** and you know you are?' Oh I love you AF and your same tactic of accusing a poster of something they aren't guilty of and then having an endless argument about it. Do you write the scripts for EastEnders by any chance? Copy and paste where I've said I have a problem with people answering back? You said "It certainly motivates you to answer back which you do forever,". I thought it was a complaint, but if it's just an observation, then fair enough, it's nothing to do with the issue we're talking about, anyway. In any case, it's a simple question (that I observe you avoided). You're saying that either all abusive chanting is in, or all is out. This is your idea. I haven't seem anyone else make this assertion, so I assume that you are coming up with this coz you believe it. Personally I think it's a false dichotomy. But if you believe this then you must come down on one side or the other. So, I'm simply asking which side you come down on. If you can't answer a simple question like this, then your assertion that it must be all or nothing clearly can't stand. This is really basic stuff. |
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Post by inee on Aug 30, 2019 11:35:37 GMT
Sectarianism and racism can be argued that they run along the same parallel lines. Nope they cant Racism always has and always will be wrong, however it amazes me that even n this day and age people still need to label others by race as there is only one race and that is the human race. so please can you explain how someones pretend friend who has to have total control on those whose are too weak minded to go through life without this imaginary friend ,who has proved to be one of the most vile and murderous friends that has ever been believed in. Sorry but it will never even remotely be the same ,I cant understand why those who believe arn't thrown in the asylums ,lets face it if i or anyone else openly said i talk to this invisible thing inside me, who follows me everywhere and lives in the sky who thinks it's ok to kill and maim ,quite justifiably you'd think i was off my rocker and probably give i wide berth. But if i said my friend was god then everyone accepts it. |
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2019 11:50:11 GMT
Sectarianism and racism can be argued that they run along the same parallel lines. Nope they cant Racism always has and always will be wrong, however it amazes me that even n this day and age people still need to label others by race as there is only one race and that is the human race. so please can you explain how someones pretend friend who has to have total control on those whose are too weak minded to go through life without this imaginary friend ,who has proved to be one of the most vile and murderous friends that has ever been believed in. Sorry but it will never even remotely be the same ,I cant understand why those who believe arn't thrown in the asylums ,lets face it if i or anyone else openly said i talk to this invisible thing inside me, who follows me everywhere and lives in the sky who thinks it's ok to kill and maim ,quite justifiably you'd think i was off my rocker and probably give i wide berth. But if i said my friend was god then everyone accepts it. So why don't we singing about the UVF? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 30, 2019 11:56:47 GMT
Hi guys, hope you don’t mind a bit of outside input on this subject! I’m from Scotland but currently living in the south west for work and I’ve been taking in as many games at as many different grounds as possible while I’m here. On Tuesday I came down to Bristol and stood on the north terrace. Thoroughly enjoyed the game, was gutted for you when Brighton got the winner and loved the celebrations at your (superb) equaliser! However, I was pretty taken aback by the homophobic chanting to be honest. It was widespread, sustained and varied. I was surprised just how many people joined in and seemed to think it was ok. In Scotland there is a severe issue with (predominately) Rangers and Celtic fans singing ridiculous sectarian stuff and every time it happens it’s major news. Even when one or two idiots at a smaller team come out with an odd daft chant it becomes an issue. If most of a busy terrace joined in with three or four different homophobic songs repeatedly over an entire half of football you wouldn’t hear the end of it for months. It as pretty grating to the e@r of an outsider. A bit disappointing because I thought the backing you guys gave your team throughout was exceptional, the atmosphere on the terrace was otherwise brilliant and it was good to stand on that kind of terrace again after quite some time - my team back home are in the Premiership and everywhere is all seater so we don’t get that chance often! No further questions your honour. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 30, 2019 11:58:10 GMT
I know two Irish blokes that have been put off enough to not return. As I said they didn't feel "comfortable" which, in my opinion is a real shame. They now both have Bath season tickets. So potentially that's £650 per season down the drain.
They're not "IRA sympathisers" before anyone says, they just were a bit "Erm OK" about the whole situation.
Nevermind ey.
ironically the whole disturbing topic of people wanting to dictate the vocabulary others use makes me uneasy. Repugnant. Thread locked. Trololol |
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