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Post by socrates on Sept 17, 2019 23:11:58 GMT
Got outplayed mostly, our possession retention was shambles, we had a few bottling challenges (leahy) thought we were poor tonight. Best player for me was sercombe and he only played 30 mins. We just give the ball away so cheaply. You saw a different game than me . I thought we looked solid until the substitutions. Little was worse than Hare and sercombe switched off for their goal , or just hasn’t got the fight to win those, probably a bit of both, didn’t do much else either . Adeboyjo wasn’t as good as smith and once we made the changes the game turned in their favour , we were the better side until the last 20 minutes or so and it was a very solid organised performance up until then. |
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Post by socrates on Sept 17, 2019 23:15:44 GMT
I get so fed up reading about how crap Ollie Clarke is cos he isn't. I had a guy behind me moaning about him all the time he was on the pitch. But look at a lot of the time he gives the ball away. He's given an impossible pass from a team mate and then expected to work wonders with no onward pass cos everyone just stands there watching instead of making space for him. He holds onto the ball for as long as possible and then ends up losing it. Sometimes he has to pass into no mans land rather than give the ball away directly. And every time people start screaming about how crap he is. How about moaning at the rest of the team for not helping out. When he went off we completely lost hold of the midfield. Sercombe was ok for 5 mins and then was a waste of space. I didn't see him mark anyone. The only think he marked was open space. When Gillingham realised the midfield had weakened they started coming at us and gained confidence. Serconme is not the battler that Ollie is. Olly didn’t have a good game but sercombe was worse. At least olly will put his body on the line , I wouldn’t mind that sercombe isn’t interested in tackling , getting stuck in if he actually created anything or scored goals but he hasn’t done that for 18 months and I don’t know why but he’s been useless for too long now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 23:28:47 GMT
Funny old game.
Thought we played quite well until the first substitution and then it went pear shaped. Although OC had a poor game as soon as he went off everybody else seemed to suddenly lose all confidence.
Sercombe and Little were very poor the latter seemed very disinterested(was he throwing his toys out of the pram after being dropped to the bench tonight?)
The former is now quite clearly a shadow of his former self and offers nothing apart from wanting to charge around like a headless chicken and invariably gives the ball away most of the time.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 17, 2019 23:29:24 GMT
I get so fed up reading about how crap Ollie Clarke is cos he isn't. I had a guy behind me moaning about him all the time he was on the pitch. But look at a lot of the time he gives the ball away. He's given an impossible pass from a team mate and then expected to work wonders with no onward pass cos everyone just stands there watching instead of making space for him. He holds onto the ball for as long as possible and then ends up losing it. Sometimes he has to pass into no mans land rather than give the ball away directly. And every time people start screaming about how crap he is. How about moaning at the rest of the team for not helping out. When he went off we completely lost hold of the midfield. Sercombe was ok for 5 mins and then was a waste of space. I didn't see him mark anyone. The only think he marked was open space. When Gillingham realised the midfield had weakened they started coming at us and gained confidence. Serconme is not the battler that Ollie is. Olly didn’t have a good game but sercombe was worse. At least olly will put his body on the line , I wouldn’t mind that sercombe isn’t interested in tackling , getting stuck in if he actually created anything or scored goals but he hasn’t done that for 18 months and I don’t know why but he’s been useless for too long now. I'm not keen on either. O Clarke is a battler but his passing for a CM is atrocious. He's kind of a mix of Upson and Ogogo but not as good as either at what they do best. Agree about Sercs, was a quality player but seems to have gone completely off the boil. I wouldn't lose sleep at losing him, Bennett and Rodman and finding replacements. Bet that would create a big chunk of the wage bill. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 1:18:07 GMT
I feel out of step with many posters on here. I though we were on top in the 1st half but the football was the football of attrition,of grinding down your opponents. In the 2nd half we were just bloody awful. Painful to watch again for me but obviously not for others. We played some decent stuff and looked in control until the change upfront. It's the third tier pal. I think a few need a reality check regarding expectations. The really poor attendance illustrates just how flakey some of our 'supporters' are. Your not my pal,i don't know you. Plenty of teams play good football at all levels of football. Supporters these days want to be entertained,if they don't enjoy the football they wont go. |
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Post by oldgas on Sept 18, 2019 4:54:48 GMT
We played some decent stuff and looked in control until the change upfront. It's the third tier pal. I think a few need a reality check regarding expectations. The really poor attendance illustrates just how flakey some of our 'supporters' are. Your not my pal,i don't know you. Plenty of teams play good football at all levels of football. Supporters these days want to be entertained,if they don't enjoy the football they wont go. Ooooh, get you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 5:39:34 GMT
I - & many others on the east, yes east terrace - could see that Little looked uncomfortable after his first challenge. Either he walks a bit odd or the bench were oblivious He was strolling around for sure, they saw that and attacked our right hand side constantly in the last 10 minutes and we were really up against it. Yep, Little got done on first tackle and injury was exposed for the goal, he wasn’t tight and couldn’t turn. Afraid him and THD are broken albeit Championship quality. Shame |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 18, 2019 5:45:26 GMT
Got outplayed mostly, our possession retention was shambles, we had a few bottling challenges (leahy) thought we were poor tonight. Best player for me was sercombe and he only played 30 mins. We just give the ball away so cheaply. Funniest post today keep it up ! |
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Post by blueridge on Sept 18, 2019 5:51:12 GMT
Got outplayed mostly, our possession retention was shambles, we had a few bottling challenges (leahy) thought we were poor tonight. Best player for me was sercombe and he only played 30 mins. We just give the ball away so cheaply. Were you at the match? |
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 18, 2019 6:20:45 GMT
Got outplayed mostly, our possession retention was shambles, we had a few bottling challenges (leahy) thought we were poor tonight. Best player for me was sercombe and he only played 30 mins. We just give the ball away so cheaply. Were you at the match? Yes he came on for ollie Clarke 😂 |
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Post by Congas on Sept 18, 2019 6:28:51 GMT
Champions League on the box always knocks a few off the gate. Same every season but the EFL stick with it. Nowhere near as composed as we were on Saturday. Looks like we've got the home jitters coming on.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 18, 2019 6:45:13 GMT
We played some decent stuff and looked in control until the change upfront. It's the third tier pal. I think a few need a reality check regarding expectations. The really poor attendance illustrates just how flakey some of our 'supporters' are. Your not my pal,i don't know you. Plenty of teams play good football at all levels of football. Supporters these days want to be entertained,if they don't enjoy the football they wont go. Come on mate, don’t be like that. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Sept 18, 2019 6:45:59 GMT
Thought bar the last 15 mins it was a decent performance especially the early part of the 2nd half where we really should have put the game to bed. Once the changes were made we seemed to drop off and invite them to attack and were hanging on come the end.
My biggest criticism would be that we don't move the ball quickly enough, other teams pass through us but our build up seems very slow in comparison.
Hopefully Josh Hare's injury isn't as serious as it looked he'll be a big miss if he's out for any length of time.
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Post by pepsi on Sept 18, 2019 7:02:04 GMT
We played some decent stuff and looked in control until the change upfront. It's the third tier pal. Your not my pal,i don't know you.. 😂😂😂 |
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 18, 2019 7:03:15 GMT
Thought bar the last 15 mins it was a decent performance especially the early part of the 2nd half where we really should have put the game to bed. Once the changes were made we seemed to drop off and invite them to attack and were hanging on come the end. My biggest criticism would be that we don't move the ball quickly enough, other teams pass through us but our build up seems very slow in comparison. Hopefully Josh Hare's injury isn't as serious as it looked he'll be a big miss if he's out for any length of time. Had Ed Upsons shot squeezed inside the post; as opposed to narrowly missing I feel we would have won that game at a canter. Up until the injuries to Ollie Clarke and Josh Hare we were comfortably on top, I hope neither injury is serious as I think we will struggle without them in the side. |
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Post by lmgas on Sept 18, 2019 7:06:50 GMT
In fairness to Sercombe he was asked to play a role that doesn't suit him, very frustrating to see a player with his abilities being put in that deep holding midfield.
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Post by lmgas on Sept 18, 2019 7:09:07 GMT
In fairness to Sercombe he was asked to play a role that doesn't suit him, very frustrating to see a player with his abilities being put in that deep holding midfield. Poor management when we needed a second goal to kill the game. (Sorry, though I was editing my post rather than talking to myself!) |
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Post by simonj on Sept 18, 2019 7:20:45 GMT
Difference was even a bang average side like Gillingham had a midfield that were comfortable on the ball, could pass, move and receive it back again. We have no one who can put their foot on it, so are forced to resort to aimless hoofball and when JCH has an off night we struggle. Ok, but surely its also obvious to see, their midfield had outlet wide, supporting the front line. Their number 19 caused mayhem in the second half. Found so much space from wide midfield. When our front men get it, the defensive strategy by GC allows for very little width as an outlet. Leahy isn't get many plaudits, but he is doing everything he can to get up in support, whilst Hare is less so and therefore seemingly more reliable.
My message is as per the last home game, after the first half an hour teams adapt and slightly realign realising they don't need to go man for man into the space where we have 6-7 players looking after a 30 yard area of pitch. The can play one or two in and around and the space created by Gills in the second half was frustrating. They're all decent footballers at this level, I truly believe we have slightly better ones than them and also AS last week, but certainly not made to look like it with this terrified approach.
Same old, we got the goal through some excellent striker play, but create very little and hope to hold on when we could just play a formation that should be able to defend and attack, if teams score then fair enough its a mistake or they've created. This inevitability through inviting the opposition on and packing the back, its horrible to endure.
Entertainment and excitement it really isn't. It comes to something when a 3 or 4 pass move ending in Upson hitting the tamest of shots, being the second half highlight, genuinely I can remember only one other incident a JCH header. Garbage.
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Post by simonj on Sept 18, 2019 7:26:34 GMT
Wasteful at top end need a little bit of extra quality thought Alfie k was immense Seriously need help understanding this. How come they were wasteful, the only shining light for anything remotely offensive, not that there was any fear of much of that under this formation and manager at home. I have a season ticket, the first sign of crap weather I cant see myself getting soaked for that dross. I've only felt like this once before in 45 years as a fan. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 8:14:26 GMT
Another pathetic attendance. “Faithful and True” don’t make me laugh. Where are the other 3,000 from our first season in this league?
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