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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 7, 2019 10:03:59 GMT
Not Rovers related but with no game the weekend, the main forum has become a bit stale.
Do I think they will? No.
Can they get relegated? With this team, there is definitely a chance.
100/1 with the bookies to get relegated is massive. They have severe lack of quality in midfield and up front, no leadership. No distinct way of playing.
To add to that, the lower clubs are actually quite decent these days and/or willing to spend money. There are very few poor prem teams.
Mods feel free to move but I would be interested to hear people's views and more likely to get a response on here. Please don't turn this into a "this doesn't belong here thread".
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Post by Congas on Oct 7, 2019 10:17:02 GMT
They did in the early 70s after they failed to fill the void left by Mat Busby so nothing's impossible in football. The signs are there: no energy or purpose.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 7, 2019 10:20:22 GMT
If they don’t get enough points to finish outside the bottom three they probably will get relegated.
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Post by simonj on Oct 7, 2019 10:25:52 GMT
unfortunately no.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 7, 2019 10:28:52 GMT
It's no more unlikely than it was for Leicester to win the Premier League, which of course happened against all the odds.
I certainly don't think Man Utd will get relegated because they'll bring in another manager before too long if things don't dramatically improve very soon, and that will be enough to see them finish top 8-ish.
I used to really dislike Man Utd when they were winning everything every year under Fergie, but I actually see their decline as a bit sad now, although I found it amusing at first. It's sad that what could be a truly epic 3-way battle between Man Utd and arguably their 2 biggest rivals for the league title, has become a non-event where Utd are concerned. Still, you reap what you sow and Utd have only really got themselves to blame.
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Post by Gassy on Oct 7, 2019 10:30:49 GMT
Not a chance it will happen, their squad is still very strong & if they had to they'd sack Ole and bring in someone to save them
And in response to Jomo's post above, I personally have 0 sympathy for any Premier League teams. None whatsoever
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 7, 2019 10:30:57 GMT
If they don’t get enough points to finish outside the bottom three they probably will get relegated. Yeah, but for every game where they score more goals than the opposition they will be awarded three points.
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Post by Gassy on Oct 7, 2019 10:32:47 GMT
If they don’t get enough points to finish outside the bottom three they probably will get relegated. Yeah, but for every game where they score more goals than the opposition they will be awarded three points. Not unless they're own goals
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 7, 2019 10:33:04 GMT
If they don’t get enough points to finish outside the bottom three they probably will get relegated. Yeah, but for every game where they score more goals than the opposition they will be awarded three points. Unless it's a six pointer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:34:55 GMT
Yeah, but for every game where they score more goals than the opposition they will be awarded three points. Unless it's a six pointer. Do players get a double win bonus for a six pointer?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 7, 2019 10:37:39 GMT
It's no more unlikely than it was for Leicester to win the Premier League, which of course happened against all the odds. I certainly don't think Man Utd will get relegated because they'll bring in another manager before too long if things don't dramatically improve very soon, and that will be enough to see them finish top 8-ish. I used to really dislike Man Utd when they were winning everything every year under Fergie, but I actually see their decline as a bit sad now, although I found it amusing at first. It's sad that what could be a truly epic 3-way battle between Man Utd and arguably their 2 biggest rivals for the league title, has become a non-event where Utd are concerned. Still, you reap what you sow and Utd have only really got themselves to blame. Jomo, I find this quote interesting.. "I certainly don't think Man Utd will get relegated because they'll bring in another manager before too long if things don't dramatically improve very soon". It is said as though it is a given a new manager will come in and save them. The thing with this United team at the minute is not only are they lacking in confidence but they are not actually very good, they have a mismatch of a midfield and no proven goalscorer. At the rate they are going, we might see them make some panic signings in January.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 7, 2019 10:38:39 GMT
Unless it's a six pointer. Do players get a double win bonus for a six pointer? Pretty sure they do, same as if you score a goal away from home you get double goal bonus. Away goals count double.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 7, 2019 10:39:26 GMT
Not a chance it will happen, their squad is still very strong & if they had to they'd sack Ole and bring in someone to save them And in response to Jomo's post above, I personally have 0 sympathy for any Premier League teams. None whatsoever Is it that strong? Where Is this strength in midfield and up front? Their biggest strength in my opinion is the defence but watching De Gea's interview yesterday, they seem disheartened.
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Post by Gassy on Oct 7, 2019 10:44:36 GMT
Not a chance it will happen, their squad is still very strong & if they had to they'd sack Ole and bring in someone to save them And in response to Jomo's post above, I personally have 0 sympathy for any Premier League teams. None whatsoever Is it that strong? Where Is this strength in midfield and up front? Their biggest strength in my opinion is the defence but watching De Gea's interview yesterday, they seem disheartened. Well as you say the defence & GK are very good. The midfield of Fred, Pogba, Mata, Matic is much too strong in comparison to probably Burnley, West Ham, Bournemouth, Sheffield Utd, Brighton, Villa, Newcastle, Southampton, Everton, Norwich, Watford & Palace IMO. The strike force is the real problem. I like Rashford a lot, he's one of the most naturally talented strikers I've seen. However he's young and upfront alone with dreadful tactics and no service.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 7, 2019 10:48:35 GMT
When they buy JCH for £10m they will be ok
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 7, 2019 10:48:46 GMT
Is it that strong? Where Is this strength in midfield and up front? Their biggest strength in my opinion is the defence but watching De Gea's interview yesterday, they seem disheartened. Well as you say the defence & GK are very good. The midfield of Fred, Pogba, Mata, Matic is much too strong in comparison to probably Burnley, West Ham, Bournemouth, Sheffield Utd, Brighton, Villa, Newcastle, Southampton, Everton, Norwich, Watford & Palace IMO. The strike force is the real problem. I like Rashford a lot, he's one of the most naturally talented strikers I've seen. However he's young and upfront alone with dreadful tactics and no service. Newcastle...ahem...West Ham...ahem... If these midfielders are so good then how is Rashford not getting no service? Fred has been a disastrous signing a d offers little. Matic and Mata are too slow and a shadow of what they were. Pogba for all his ability andthe good things he does, gives the ball away far too cheaply and often and doesn't seem to have the right attitude. Ironically, the midfielder that I would say has impressed me most when I have seen Utd is McTominay.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 7, 2019 10:52:19 GMT
Fred is dogpops.
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Post by pirate on Oct 7, 2019 10:52:21 GMT
Yes. The West Ham team relegated in 2003 with the likes of Glen Johnson, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick and Jermain Defoe were better and supposedly "too good to go down" but they still did. www.premierleague.com/news/59655
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:52:32 GMT
Is it that strong? Where Is this strength in midfield and up front? Their biggest strength in my opinion is the defence but watching De Gea's interview yesterday, they seem disheartened. Well as you say the defence & GK are very good. The midfield of Fred, Pogba, Mata, Matic is much too strong in comparison to probably Burnley, West Ham, Bournemouth, Sheffield Utd, Brighton, Villa, Newcastle, Southampton, Everton, Norwich, Watford & Palace IMO. The strike force is the real problem. I like Rashford a lot, he's one of the most naturally talented strikers I've seen. However he's young and upfront alone with dreadful tactics and no service. Remember the days when the great Brazilian players had great names as well? Socrates, Zico...great names. Nowadays we have Fred or Malcolm.............you can see why the famed Brazilian way of playing is going downhill. OGS will be gone withing the week, but only if Utd have someone already lined-up to replace him. He was always the wrong appointment.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 7, 2019 10:55:07 GMT
Yes. The West Ham team relegated in 2003 with the likes of Glen Johnson, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick and Jermain Defoe were better and supposedly "too good to go down" but they still did. www.premierleague.com/news/59655Their team for the last match at Birmingham was hilarious.
James, Repka, Dailly, Brevett (Di Canio 82), Johnson, Sinclair, Lomas, Cole (Hutchison 87), Defoe, Les Ferdinand, Kanoute.
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