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Post by aghast on Oct 23, 2019 16:46:04 GMT
I never weigh in on here but after last night, I'm going to. I find it quite ironic that the Thatchers End can criticise the performance of any player to be honest. Their performance during games has been nothing less than not existent. I think that before they start criticising players, they need to get their own house in order. Its been absolutely dead at the Mem until we are winning. Get behind the players from the off! We started 7th yesterday and you'd have thought we were languishing mid table with a game to play! Come on Gasheads, we're better than this. I don't see how you can criticise the whole of the Thatchers End like that. There's about 2,000 individuals in there, with different views and reactions. It's not an ant colony where everyone does the same thing. The performances I've seen this season have generally been dire, or dull at best even when we win. So it's no surprise to me that the crowd doesn't sing or reacts badly. We'd be totally found out without JCH, as we're now seeing. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 23, 2019 20:37:43 GMT
Have kept out of this because it was so disappointing and after a journey home when everyone wanted to shut the roads leaving me to a mystery tour of southern England which was worse than the actual match I decided to keep away. Hard to say anything positive about the players with the exception of Jaakola who kept us in it. We were just poor and everyone seemed to have their worse game at the same time. Reckon GC didn’t do a substitution earlier because he didn’t know who to take, everyone was equally poor.
Mind you Bolton were very good after the first 5 minutes. Once they had pinpointed Kelly and the right hand side as a weakness their winger was very good and set up lots of chances for them. They were a big, strong side who will get better now they have some confidence.
GC will need to earn his money now pulling them up after that display.
UTG!
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Post by socrates on Nov 3, 2019 12:44:13 GMT
Bolton the best side I’ve seen down the Mem this season. Strong , quick , technique good , organised , hard working , great movement off the ball. The reason they’re bottom of the league isn’t the team we played tonight by any stretch. If we’d had sercombe , hare, JCH fit and played to our best we might have got a point tonight but with injuries to important players and others not playing well , olly Clarke and Nichols the worst I’ve ever seen them play , it was clear from about the 5th minute we weren’t going to get anything from tonight . Our keeper kept us in it first half but we never looked like scoring apart from one free kick. Bolton have got their work cut out to stay up, but tonight they looked every part a promotion chasing side which is the form they’ll need to stay up. You must be on a windup scored 3 goals all season they prob won’t win another game til we visit the macron. Most teams with anything about them would have killed the game off with those 2 Nichols chances inside 5 mins Well they beat high flying Fleetwood yesterday so it didn’t take them long to win again did it? Three wins on the bounce for them and in my opinion as I said they’ve got pace strength technique, very good side which will need to carry on their recent form for the rest of the season to stay up but I think they will. |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2019 14:28:09 GMT
Yes, Bolton were very good and have continued to do well. They were a big, strong and, on what I saw, skilful team. Don’t know what the squad is like but the team we faced were good. Of course they had a bit of luck when we missed those two chances but all clubs get that. Might still be bottom but I reckon they will get better, might not avoid relegation but it will be close.
UTG!
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 3, 2019 14:54:24 GMT
Yes, Bolton were very good and have continued to do well. They were a big, strong and, on what I saw, skilful team. Don’t know what the squad is like but the team we faced were good. Of course they had a bit of luck when we missed those two chances but all clubs get that. Might still be bottom but I reckon they will get better, might not avoid relegation but it will be close. UTG! They have a very good manager and have managed to build a core of experienced players since their reprieve. I agree that they have a fighting chance of preventing relegation, despite the points reduction and the first seven or eight fixtures in limbo.
Is it fair that anyone who played them in the first two months effectively had a free hit?
Is it fair that they still have not faced any punishment for pulling out of one fixture last season and one this?
Not at all, but I don't think anyone will take them lightly for the rest of this season. |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2019 15:13:03 GMT
Yes, Bolton were very good and have continued to do well. They were a big, strong and, on what I saw, skilful team. Don’t know what the squad is like but the team we faced were good. Of course they had a bit of luck when we missed those two chances but all clubs get that. Might still be bottom but I reckon they will get better, might not avoid relegation but it will be close. UTG! They have a very good manager and have managed to build a core of experienced players since their reprieve. I agree that they have a fighting chance of preventing relegation, despite the points reduction and the first seven or eight fixtures in limbo.
Is it fair that anyone who played them in the first two months effectively had a free hit?
Is it fair that they still have not faced any punishment for pulling out of one fixture last season and one this?
Not at all, but I don't think anyone will take them lightly for the rest of this season. No, of course it’s not as youve said and I’ve posted a lot earlier on about those things. I was told, by the EFL, that the Brentford cancellation was being considered by an independent panel and the Doncaster postponement this season had yet to be considered. Make of that what you will. I still think the EFL will leave themselves open to a legal challenge if Bolton aren’t punished for those offences from teams if they get relegated on goal difference, esp if the tam who stays up played Bolton early on. But all of that doesn’t take away from Bolton now being a fairly strong side. As ever I guess time will tell. UTG! |
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Post by socrates on Nov 3, 2019 16:04:25 GMT
They have a very good manager and have managed to build a core of experienced players since their reprieve. I agree that they have a fighting chance of preventing relegation, despite the points reduction and the first seven or eight fixtures in limbo.
Is it fair that anyone who played them in the first two months effectively had a free hit?
Is it fair that they still have not faced any punishment for pulling out of one fixture last season and one this?
Not at all, but I don't think anyone will take them lightly for the rest of this season. No, of course it’s not as youve said and I’ve posted a lot earlier on about those things. I was told, by the EFL, that the Brentford cancellation was being considered by an independent panel and the Doncaster postponement this season had yet to be considered. Make of that what you will. I still think the EFL will leave themselves open to a legal challenge if Bolton aren’t punished for those offences from teams if they get relegated on goal difference, esp if the tam who stays up played Bolton early on. But all of that doesn’t take away from Bolton now being a fairly strong side. As ever I guess time will tell. UTG! Yeah I agree with that . I wasn’t bringing this thread back because I want them to stay up , I brought it back because I felt after the game that they were the best side I’ve seen down the Mem this season and I said after the game that I wouldn’t be surprised if they stayed up with the players they’ve got. It’s easy when we play poorly and lose for our support to jump on the old “ worst performance in years “ but Bolton looked like a top league 1 side that night and were a class above. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 3, 2019 18:14:57 GMT
They have a very good manager and have managed to build a core of experienced players since their reprieve. I agree that they have a fighting chance of preventing relegation, despite the points reduction and the first seven or eight fixtures in limbo.
Is it fair that anyone who played them in the first two months effectively had a free hit?
Is it fair that they still have not faced any punishment for pulling out of one fixture last season and one this?
Not at all, but I don't think anyone will take them lightly for the rest of this season. No, of course it’s not as youve said and I’ve posted a lot earlier on about those things. I was told, by the EFL, that the Brentford cancellation was being considered by an independent panel and the Doncaster postponement this season had yet to be considered. Make of that what you will. I still think the EFL will leave themselves open to a legal challenge if Bolton aren’t punished for those offences from teams if they get relegated on goal difference, esp if the tam who stays up played Bolton early on. But all of that doesn’t take away from Bolton now being a fairly strong side. As ever I guess time will tell. UTG! I think we could be fairly sure that Nick Higgs would have challenged it if Rovers were relegated because of a loss to the new Bolton, and the beneficiaries of the early Bolton thumpings just avoided the drop. Didn't Nick try to do something similar to Wycombe the season we were relegated to the Conference? I'm sure relegated teams will not just shrug their shoulders and accept their bad luck. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 3, 2019 19:49:36 GMT
No, of course it’s not as youve said and I’ve posted a lot earlier on about those things. I was told, by the EFL, that the Brentford cancellation was being considered by an independent panel and the Doncaster postponement this season had yet to be considered. Make of that what you will. I still think the EFL will leave themselves open to a legal challenge if Bolton aren’t punished for those offences from teams if they get relegated on goal difference, esp if the tam who stays up played Bolton early on. But all of that doesn’t take away from Bolton now being a fairly strong side. As ever I guess time will tell. UTG! Yeah I agree with that . I wasn’t bringing this thread back because I want them to stay up , I brought it back because I felt after the game that they were the best side I’ve seen down the Mem this season and I said after the game that I wouldn’t be surprised if they stayed up with the players they’ve got. It’s easy when we play poorly and lose for our support to jump on the old “ worst performance in years “ but Bolton looked like a top league 1 side that night and were a class above. I agree regardless of all that had gone before we played them, on the night they were very good. Ok had TN taken his 2 early chances the game might have ended very different but they still deserved to win. Now had we played them early August I’m sure we would be sitting pretty in 4th spot tonight. The fairness of those teams that played Bolton in those early days makes the EFL more than open to criticism if they don’t punish Bolton for their refusal to fulfil games and will cause uproar come the end of the season. I still think the EFL will hope to just brush it under the carpet as surely if they were going to do anything they would have done it by now |
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Post by socrates on Nov 3, 2019 23:09:47 GMT
Yeah I agree with that . I wasn’t bringing this thread back because I want them to stay up , I brought it back because I felt after the game that they were the best side I’ve seen down the Mem this season and I said after the game that I wouldn’t be surprised if they stayed up with the players they’ve got. It’s easy when we play poorly and lose for our support to jump on the old “ worst performance in years “ but Bolton looked like a top league 1 side that night and were a class above. I agree regardless of all that had gone before we played them, on the night they were very good. Ok had TN taken his 2 early chances the game might have ended very different but they still deserved to win. Now had we played them early August I’m sure we would be sitting pretty in 4th spot tonight. The fairness of those teams that played Bolton in those early days makes the EFL more than open to criticism if they don’t punish Bolton for their refusal to fulfil games and will cause uproar come the end of the season. I still think the EFL will hope to just brush it under the carpet as surely if they were going to do anything they would have done it by now Yeah they probably would have. Too busy taking premier league backhanders to have any kind of proactive competence that’s the problem with the EFL |
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