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Post by burnthewitch on Nov 4, 2019 20:32:01 GMT
My experience of volunteering for the SC has only been positive. It's certainly not a closed shop and they regularly appeal for new volunteers, ideas and expertise. The problem is our apathetic fan base. A couple of examples for you. Some time ago they agreed a new website was required for the SC so they appealed for help. They posted on their website, their Facebook page, on twitter, in the match day programme and asked people personally if they knew anyone who could help. The total number of replies they got across all these platforms was precisely 0. I'm willing to bet we have more than 1 website designer in our fan base and many others who have a working knowledge of how to build a half decent website. It ended with a SC volunteer teaching himself web design and building a new website. Yet people sit back and now criticise the SC for their website. Unbelievable Jeff! Example number 2. I was helping the SC work with the Sainsburys planning team on getting planning permission for the Mem. There were regular calls for people to help yet only a handful ever did. I was collecting signatures for a petition in favour of granting pp and literally had people at matches tell me they couldn't be bothered to sign the petition! That's the level of apathy that exists. At a Rovers match but could not be bothered to sign their name on a bit of paper! Meanwhile SC members were working tirelessly to get it over the line, even sleeping on the floor of the old shop so they could start again at sunrise! So to anyone suggesting it's a closed shop, or that they are unwilling to accept help I'm telling you that you're talking b0ll0cks. Lots on here saying they should do this or do that. Why don't you bl00dy do it instead of moaning online and regurgitating nonsense that is without any foundation. To add some balance I agree they (as every organisation ever in the world) can improve. But its not for a lack of trying that's for sure! Have a lovely evening one and all UTG Decent post. Key word: apathy. And as long as we stay under control of the (largely) dicredited, floundering and clueless Dwane Sports, apathy will continue to reign supreme. We're rotten from the top. I feel sorry for the volunteers. They deserve better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 20:33:49 GMT
Surely the supporters club with its vast membership should have no problems finding volunteers. typical - let everyone else do the work - but you will be the lazy critic If I choose not to be a member of BRSC, why would I volunteer for them, when quite clearly within their large membership they should be able to find enough volunteers for their needs? Surely if those that run it make it a welcoming environment to all members, getting volunteers to come forward would not be a problem.
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Post by knowall on Nov 4, 2019 20:42:52 GMT
We don’t employ anyone as an ambassador, Bob volunteers his time to help try and get the supporters more info and bridge the gap between the fan base and the club. What exactly does Ken Masters do? Out of interest - What do you do?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 4, 2019 20:46:34 GMT
There is going to be a shortage of programme and 50/50 sellers on Sunday. If someone can volunteer for just an hour between 1.45 and 2.45 then this will probably help raise over £50 for the football club. Just though more people will see this request if it was added to this link! I am not around due to family commitments, so there is unlikely to be any progs or 50/50 in the Welly, Drapers or pitch side before ko. (Although Ron who travels about 15 miles to volunteer and set up the programme trolleys at 12 does walk around the pitch about 10 past three after selling in Filton Ave, but this is selling progs only.) I am no longer on the SC committee having done it for over ten years. It is a thankless task. The SC definately did a lot more than people thought and the likes of Ron Craig and Geoff Dunford were well aware and supportive. I have no insight in the current situation, but people are free to volunteer or stand for election, if they so wish). Surely the draw would have taken place at half time at 1.30pm ish?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 20:47:43 GMT
What exactly does Ken Masters do? Out of interest - What do you do? One thing Hugo does not do is claim to be ITK!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 20:49:15 GMT
There is going to be a shortage of programme and 50/50 sellers on Sunday. If someone can volunteer for just an hour between 1.45 and 2.45 then this will probably help raise over £50 for the football club. Just though more people will see this request if it was added to this link! I am not around due to family commitments, so there is unlikely to be any progs or 50/50 in the Welly, Drapers or pitch side before ko. (Although Ron who travels about 15 miles to volunteer and set up the programme trolleys at 12 does walk around the pitch about 10 past three after selling in Filton Ave, but this is selling progs only.) I am no longer on the SC committee having done it for over ten years. It is a thankless task. The SC definately did a lot more than people thought and the likes of Ron Craig and Geoff Dunford were well aware and supportive. I have no insight in the current situation, but people are free to volunteer or stand for election, if they so wish). Surely the draw would have taken place at half time at 1.30pm ish? Probably Dave thinking it's a 1500 kickoff Sean.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 4, 2019 21:01:24 GMT
What exactly does Ken Masters do? Out of interest - What do you do? Why should it matter what I do? I'm not the Fans director. My contribution in no way has any impact on right to ask what others do. I'm not the owner either and I can have an opinion on them and question them should I wish. I'm also not a player but again I can question what they bring to a team. As a fan I pay for my ST and sit in the freezing cold South Stand. I pay for food and hot drinks at the game and the occasional pre match pint. I contribute anything from 30 to 50 quid a season as a minimum to the FFSC as well has help the yearly draw. I moderate this forum which involves reading EVERY post on all parts of the forum and takes up a lot of time in PMs. But in fairness, I'm simply a regular fan and not the Fans Director. If I were, I would expect and encourage people to question what I was doing in that role. In my experience BSS was very good in his role as fans director and was someone I saw and chatted to regularly. I have been a SC member a long time ago. Its interesting that you have suddenly decided to pick me up on this comment now having not done so before and having already conceded earlier that I am already part of 2 fans groups. I wonder what has prompted this?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 4, 2019 21:16:37 GMT
I will concede that I have learned some lessons from this thread though, and that is that I was in fact wrong to ask what Ken does as thats clearly a matter for members of the SC only.
Since I do not care to join, I will not take any interest in him any more.
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 4, 2019 21:25:04 GMT
I will concede that I have learned some lessons from this thread though, and that is that I was in fact wrong to ask what Ken does as thats clearly a matter for members of the SC only. Since I do not care to join, I will not take any interest in him any more. I’ve read and re read and I’m really none the wiser, the only real facts appear to be a shortage of program sellers and fifty fifty ticket sellers.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 4, 2019 21:53:40 GMT
I know absolutely nothing about club politics, the SC or who doesn’t get on with who and how the different parts, SC, club, Dwayne Sports, “Fans Director,” or Share Scheme work. Having lived over 100 miles away from Bristol for over 40 years my only contact is when I come up to matches, travel to away or go on the forums. With some of my family I was at the Mansfield match, the Grimsby match, D/R match and all the Wembley occasions and various other matches home and away since 1966. Despite reading this place I know no posters and feel very ignorant about wider things to do with the club certainly compared to others, not that it worries me a jot. I try to support the club by supporting the shop, food outlets and bars when I come up to matches and I support the FFSC on here. Others might disagree but this thread has been quite informative (presuming the factual content is correct) and hearing about the role Ken Masters fills with the Community Trust. Thanks to padstow for lots of stuff that I didn’t know. FWIW: 1. Any organisation needs to use its resources as well as it can and this esp means people who will have strengths and skills to carry out what needs to happen. That needs any leaders to work well with people and gain the best out of them. 2. If parts of any organisation don’t communicate with each other and support each other or even work in their own bubble then potential will never be reached. 3. If people within any organisation work against others in the same organisation then chaos ensues and it needs to be sorted quickly and dealt with. Do not ignore it and let it fester. 4. Any organisation needs to embrace change and look at their “customers” or in our case fanbase and work with them and look for skills and talents that could be used for the good of the organisation. Leaders should be engaging with technology to deliver any change at the same time a taking their well trained (?) employees with them as they improve. 5. It needs clear-sighted leadership with good communication skills who draw people into the organisation and looks to work with people for the communal good. That leadership needs to articulate a vision of the future and have a clearly identified means of achieving it.
Until people in position of responsibility at BRFC prioritise the good of the club above personal status or position or until we have leaders who draw people together rather than drive people apart we will not reach our potential. And as I said I don’t know enough in detail about certain parts of our club to be able to say how near we are to this but reading stuff on here doesn’t fill me with confidence. And that is not criticising anyone who’s given their opinion on this thread because the views, well most of them!, have been interesting for me as an outsider. IMO the leaders of the Community Trust probably know this very well as it seems to be an organisation that is clearly working towards achieving some very important priorities which benefits many and from which we should all be proud of. A good model for others to copy perhaps.
Forever UTG in good times and bad!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 4, 2019 23:38:02 GMT
There is going to be a shortage of programme and 50/50 sellers on Sunday. If someone can volunteer for just an hour between 1.45 and 2.45 then this will probably help raise over £50 for the football club. Just though more people will see this request if it was added to this link! I am not around due to family commitments, so there is unlikely to be any progs or 50/50 in the Welly, Drapers or pitch side before ko. (Although Ron who travels about 15 miles to volunteer and set up the programme trolleys at 12 does walk around the pitch about 10 past three after selling in Filton Ave, but this is selling progs only.) I am no longer on the SC committee having done it for over ten years. It is a thankless task. The SC definately did a lot more than people thought and the likes of Ron Craig and Geoff Dunford were well aware and supportive. I have no insight in the current situation, but people are free to volunteer or stand for election, if they so wish). Now is the chance for those criticising the sc.to do something for free that volunteers have been doing for years Had I not been travelling to London this weekend to take my son for an operation I may we’ll have just done this.
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