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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2019 13:00:54 GMT
But the SC is surely more/less relevant than ever given the stuff on other threads and whether or not there is any truth in them. Thanks for clearing that up Hugo...... That was exactly my point!! I dont think you can have a conversation about the SC without context given the supposed state of the club.
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Post by baggins on Nov 2, 2019 13:18:41 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up Hugo...... That was exactly my point!! I dont think you can have a conversation about the SC without context given the supposed state of the club. Problem is, apart from the accounts, which people keep referring to, no one actually knows the state of the Club.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 2, 2019 14:08:32 GMT
I'll never forget Ken Masters having a go at me (for no reason except that maybe he felt threatened - his position ) at a Fans' forum at the stadium that we demanded after our fall from the football League. Ken is a fossil.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 2, 2019 14:25:16 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up Hugo...... That was exactly my point!! I dont think you can have a conversation about the SC without context given the supposed state of the club. I would say that having a supporters voice an influence is more important than ever if we are entering negotiations for a takeover. That needs to be done concisely and in a manner that represents the fan base with the fan base opinions and views listened to so a proper collective decision can be made on things or opinions given which reflects the majority and not the opinion of a couple of people who think they know best. But how can that happen when the fans director can’t/won’t/isn’t able to be communicated with?
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Post by gasincider on Nov 3, 2019 8:47:57 GMT
Seems to me Hugo is just trying to deflect the criticism from his his buddy. Remember, slag the Post not the poster?. As for 1981, he does all sorts of wonderful things for the world, but no one can pin them down.
I now fully expect that the other moderators will issue a warning about personal attacks, just not anytime soon as he's one of their own. Pathetic.
Funny how 1981 doesn't know what TG earns, (one of his buddies) but manages to post what some of our players earn. As for leaks, look much closer to home. Very few people could have given you the info on players wages, and I don't think Starnes would be daft enough to do it.
As for your frustration re potential takeovers, it must be frustrating that your source knows so little about what is happening.
As for the AGM, neither 1981 or TG were entitled to be there, so spout any bullshit you like, if you were not a shareholder you were not entitled to be there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 9:19:20 GMT
That was exactly my point!! I dont think you can have a conversation about the SC without context given the supposed state of the club. I would say that having a supporters voice an influence is more important than ever if we are entering negotiations for a takeover. That needs to be done concisely and in a manner that represents the fan base with the fan base opinions and views listened to so a proper collective decision can be made on things or opinions given which reflects the majority and not the opinion of a couple of people who think they know best. But how can that happen when the fans director can’t/won’t/isn’t able to be communicated with? I take it that you are a member of some club or organisation such as a golf club or the masons.more likely,so if I went on the web site of a club you are a member of and demanded they change what they do and how they elect officers you would accept my comments with good grace
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 3, 2019 10:01:21 GMT
I now fully expect that the other moderators will issue a warning about personal attacks, just not anytime soon as he's one of their own. Pathetic. Hold on. You've made this up. And then called it pathetic? Surely it has to happen first, before it can be pathetic. Do I get to make up a load of stuff about you, then call it pathetic, in the same post where I say that people should only criticise posts? Would that make any sense?
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 3, 2019 10:06:48 GMT
Seems to me Hugo is just trying to deflect the criticism from his his buddy. Remember, slag the Post not the poster?. As for 1981, he does all sorts of wonderful things for the world, but no one can pin them down. I now fully expect that the other moderators will issue a warning about personal attacks, just not anytime soon as he's one of their own. Pathetic. Funny how 1981 doesn't know what TG earns, (one of his buddies) but manages to post what some of our players earn. As for leaks, look much closer to home. Very few people could have given you the info on players wages, and I don't think Starnes would be daft enough to do it. As for your frustration re potential takeovers, it must be frustrating that your source knows so little about what is happening. As for the AGM, neither 1981 or TG were entitled to be there, so spout any bullshit you like, if you were not a shareholder you were not entitled to be there. I find your indulgent attention on me GI all rather flattering but you really aren’t my type! Please hire a private investigator if you want to “pin down what I do in the world”. Why would I want or need to know what TG earns? It has no relevance. This is the kind of attitude that does not do you, the supporters club, shareholders or the people in your clique no favours. How can you say, if you want to change it join, when you are the very people I seek to avoid at all costs in every walk of life, you are part of the problem and you are to dumb to see it. I wasted an evening of my own time, time I could have spent with my family, to go and learn a thing or 2 about the SC. I mean you cant get hold of KM anyway, but to have you all in the same room was an opportunity to see how you function and work together, what kind of message you put across and see what the opinions are. The reason I went was because I wanted to possibly join and throw some ideas in. But most of you acted like a bunch of petulant children. Baiting for an argument, shouting over the top of each other coming up with all sorts of diatribe and wild accusations. That isn’t BS, that is the truth. And you were the ringleader GI. Whilst KM sat there and let it all happen. He said the square root of zero all evening. Which is also incredibly disrespectful. Effectively it’s his club, he should control its members. And he did nothing. Weak weak leadership. I sat there in a state of disbelief that the SC could actually have the lack of decency first of all to treat the owners and representatives of those owners with such disrespect but also show no signs of wanting to work together. It was all them and us situation. And what’s worse is that you think that kind of behaviour is acceptable and excusable and part of a healthy way to run an organisation. That is a cancer that spreads through a football club and is spreading at a rapid rate.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 3, 2019 10:07:11 GMT
I now fully expect that the other moderators will issue a warning about personal attacks, just not anytime soon as he's one of their own. Pathetic. Hold on. You've made this up. And then called it pathetic? Surely it has to happen first, before it can be pathetic. Do I get to make up a load of stuff about you, then call it pathetic, in the same post where I say that people should only criticise posts? Would that make any sense? I can only assume you don't read many of the posts from 1981 on this and the fruit market thread. Make that your project for today Antonio. In fact some of the stuff he's posted must be potentially libellous, and yet still no warnings or retraction.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 3, 2019 10:13:35 GMT
I would say that having a supporters voice an influence is more important than ever if we are entering negotiations for a takeover. That needs to be done concisely and in a manner that represents the fan base with the fan base opinions and views listened to so a proper collective decision can be made on things or opinions given which reflects the majority and not the opinion of a couple of people who think they know best. But how can that happen when the fans director can’t/won’t/isn’t able to be communicated with? I take it that you are a member of some club or organisation such as a golf club or the masons.more likely,so if I went on the web site of a club you are a member of and demanded they change what they do and how they elect officers you would accept my comments with good grace Padstow, I know you want to try and get at me for all sorts of reasons only you know. I don’t know who you are or why you want to target me. But if you read my post to GI, it will explain why I have my opinion, and it wasn’t from a cursory look on the website or from any other individual spoon feeding me information. It was witnessing first hand how the SC is run and the personalities and attitudes within it. I’ve not said how they run the club to elect people is wrong or any of their governance is incorrect or one sided. I have said what they represent and what they are doing needs refreshing and I stated some of those in my post above. They cannot claim to represent the fan base when they have no idea of what the fanbase actually wants and needs, and that is because they are not visible enough and don’t communicate enough.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 3, 2019 10:17:10 GMT
Seems to me Hugo is just trying to deflect the criticism from his his buddy. Remember, slag the Post not the poster?. As for 1981, he does all sorts of wonderful things for the world, but no one can pin them down. I now fully expect that the other moderators will issue a warning about personal attacks, just not anytime soon as he's one of their own. Pathetic. Funny how 1981 doesn't know what TG earns, (one of his buddies) but manages to post what some of our players earn. As for leaks, look much closer to home. Very few people could have given you the info on players wages, and I don't think Starnes would be daft enough to do it. As for your frustration re potential takeovers, it must be frustrating that your source knows so little about what is happening. As for the AGM, neither 1981 or TG were entitled to be there, so spout any bullshit you like, if you were not a shareholder you were not entitled to be there. Love it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 3, 2019 10:17:45 GMT
Hold on. You've made this up. And then called it pathetic? Surely it has to happen first, before it can be pathetic. Do I get to make up a load of stuff about you, then call it pathetic, in the same post where I say that people should only criticise posts? Would that make any sense? I can only assume you don't read many of the posts from 1981 on this and the fruit market thread. Make that your project for today Antonio. In fact some of the stuff he's posted must be potentially libellous, and yet still no warnings or retraction. I do make it my mission (and one I often regret) to read every post of this forum, actually. Istm 81s posts are generally in line with what you get from the section of posters who argue over the coal face of the running of the club, the borderline ITKs and interested parties, that I would lump you in with, too. If you have problems with individual posts then you should report them. And again what is this thing we haven't done that you completely made up that is so pathetic? Should I make stuff up about you and label it pathetic, do you think?
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 3, 2019 10:22:22 GMT
Hold on. You've made this up. And then called it pathetic? Surely it has to happen first, before it can be pathetic. Do I get to make up a load of stuff about you, then call it pathetic, in the same post where I say that people should only criticise posts? Would that make any sense? I can only assume you don't read many of the posts from 1981 on this and the fruit market thread. Make that your project for today Antonio. In fact some of the stuff he's posted must be potentially libellous, and yet still no warnings or retraction. You once posted on that thread the same things and that the football league would love to know where my info came from.... Did you ever report me like I told you too? I’m happy to speak to them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 10:25:27 GMT
I have to say this thread has been a wonderful accompaniment to my morning coffee. Well done all.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 3, 2019 10:28:11 GMT
I have to say this thread has been a wonderful accompaniment to my morning coffee. Well done all. Latte? Cappaccino? I think GI needs a coffee. Clearly fell out of the wrong side of bed this morning.
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Post by gregsy on Nov 3, 2019 10:30:29 GMT
I have to say this thread has been a wonderful accompaniment to my morning coffee. Well done all. Better than a lotus biscoff....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 3, 2019 10:32:14 GMT
I can only assume you don't read many of the posts from 1981 on this and the fruit market thread. Make that your project for today Antonio. In fact some of the stuff he's posted must be potentially libellous, and yet still no warnings or retraction. I do make it my mission (and one I often regret) to read every post of this forum, actually. Istm 81s posts are generally in line with what you get from the section of posters who argue over the coal face of the running of the club, the borderline ITKs and interested parties, that I would lump you in with, too. If you have problems with individual posts then you should report them. And again what is this thing we haven't done that you completely made up that is so pathetic? Should I make stuff up about you and label it pathetic, do you think? For the most part we let a lot of stuff go in relation to the political stuff. On this thread we have had a couple of potentially personal attacks and some completely irrelevant and potentially libellous stuff suggesting that a poster only supports the AQs because they bought a car off them. Meanwhile GIs infamous "love it" catch phrase from winding other posters up would generally lead to a warning or ban and has done in the past and yet no action was taken or deemed necessary. Indeed, I have advocated many times in public and in private message that BOTH sides should be allowed to express their views and equally be subject to questions. Again, its not deflection in any way to question the credibility of the ITKers in relation to the running of the club or the SC. It's a fact is it not that Ken has made absolutely no public statement that the club is in trouble under the current owners. One must therefore assume everything is ok? To suggest that one must join the SC in order to have an opinion or want change is completely asinine. You dont need to join a club to know it's not something you want to be a part of or something that needs changing! From what people have said, Ken could attest to that himself since by all accounts he has been unable to have any influence in the boardroom.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 10:53:06 GMT
I have to say this thread has been a wonderful accompaniment to my morning coffee. Well done all. Latte? Cappaccino? I think GI needs a coffee. Clearly fell out of the wrong side of bed this morning. Espresso for me 81 hard and fast. Like JCH
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 3, 2019 10:58:31 GMT
Latte? Cappaccino? I think GI needs a coffee. Clearly fell out of the wrong side of bed this morning. Espresso for me 81 hard and fast. Like JCH Cappuccino for me. A bit weak and full of hot air.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 3, 2019 11:09:12 GMT
I'll have a 50/50 split.
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