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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 8, 2019 4:32:18 GMT
The team deserved a collective bollocking but the slagging off of Nichols was laughable. Any fans of any team would have been watered off at the first half performance. We could have easily have been 4-0 down. I agree, TN is often the scapegoat but the first half performance was nothing to do with him. I thought he had a good game today and was as surprised as him when he was take off. He seemed to be having words with GC in the dug out and was clearly unhappy. Was anyone closer to the dugouts than me to see more or hear what was said? Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 7:11:35 GMT
I agree, TN is often the scapegoat but the first half performance was nothing to do with him. I thought he had a good game today and was as surprised as him when he was take off. He seemed to be having words with GC in the dug out and was clearly unhappy. Was anyone closer to the dugouts than me to see more or hear what was said? Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully At least they had kissed and made up by full-time - even having a little cuddle on the pitch!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 8, 2019 7:29:23 GMT
I agree, TN is often the scapegoat but the first half performance was nothing to do with him. I thought he had a good game today and was as surprised as him when he was take off. He seemed to be having words with GC in the dug out and was clearly unhappy. Was anyone closer to the dugouts than me to see more or hear what was said? Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully How is that bullying? I've yet to see an uninjured player happy at being taken off and I've yet to see a manager who is happy to see his decisions questioned on the touchline. Nothing to see here.
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Post by baggins on Dec 8, 2019 7:39:37 GMT
I agree, TN is often the scapegoat but the first half performance was nothing to do with him. I thought he had a good game today and was as surprised as him when he was take off. He seemed to be having words with GC in the dug out and was clearly unhappy. Was anyone closer to the dugouts than me to see more or hear what was said? Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully Apart for 15 minutes of actual effort, he was still crap.
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Post by William Wilson on Dec 8, 2019 8:22:20 GMT
Competed fiercely in the 2nd half and tactically went very direct instead of centre-backs passing to each other. Looking back on the 1st half comments on here after coming home from watching the actual game its as if several posters have just started watching football for the 1st time in their lives. One bloke said "game over" at 2-0 down! That was me. Obviously I'm delighted we came back but at the time we were 2-0 down and lucky it wasn't 5 or 6 at HT. Easy to come on here and offer out humble pie after the event. And me. At half time, numbed by the dross I`d just witnessed, and with the boos of the fans still echoing in my ears, all I could think of was the bottle of Laphroaig in the kitchen cupboard. Glad I waited an hour for us to be reunited.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 8, 2019 8:38:30 GMT
What are GC's tactics? Try not to concede. That's it. Plymouth & now Southend, just doing the basics right. Not rocket science is it. We could buy 2 or 3 creative players who would then be told don't do anything creative. Even if we get something out of this today it'll purely be the players being given free reign. Not GC's tactics. I was hopeful that today's team talk would have been easy from GC. 'Southend are crap, go and show them what you can do, the balls in your court. Show me what you can do' I'm not going to retract my earlier comment. I'm still concerned that if we were playing a better team we would have been more than 2 down at half time. Not sure how a rollicking at half time transforms itself into a change of tactics. Still played long but to someone who may win the ball or at least have someone nearby to feed off scraps. Definite improvement with Sercombe playing where he should be played. 1st half he was looking up to find a pass. 2nd half Rodman & Little both within a short distance to allow them to pass and move and have licence to show what they can do when allowed. Not sure why GC gave Nichols an absolute rollicking when he looked disappointed to be taken off. Like Nichols or not he wanted to stay on and after the recent comments about getting off his back I found GC a bit hypocritical to do this, at least in public
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2019 8:46:14 GMT
Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully How is that bullying? I've yet to see an uninjured player happy at being taken off and I've yet to see a manager who is happy to see his decisions questioned on the touchline. Nothing to see here. Henbury stirring the pot? I never thought I’d see the day! I guess some fans just like to sh*t stir
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Post by teanbiscuits on Dec 8, 2019 9:07:05 GMT
What are GC's tactics? Try not to concede. That's it. Plymouth & now Southend, just doing the basics right. Not rocket science is it. We could buy 2 or 3 creative players who would then be told don't do anything creative. Even if we get something out of this today it'll purely be the players being given free reign. Not GC's tactics. I was hopeful that today's team talk would have been easy from GC. 'Southend are crap, go and show them what you can do, the balls in your court. Show me what you can do' I'm not going to retract my earlier comment. I'm still concerned that if we were playing a better team we would have been more than 2 down at half time. Not sure how a rollicking at half time transforms itself into a change of tactics. Still played long but to someone who may win the ball or at least have someone nearby to feed off scraps. Definite improvement with Sercombe playing where he should be played. 1st half he was looking up to find a pass. 2nd half Rodman & Little both within a short distance to allow them to pass and move and have licence to show what they can do when allowed. Not sure why GC gave Nichols an absolute rollicking when he looked disappointed to be taken off. Like Nichols or not he wanted to stay on and after the recent comments about getting off his back I found GC a bit hypocritical to do this, at least in public I'm convinced that if we were playing a much better side we wouldn't have started like we did at all. I almost think GC has sent the lads out to play attacking football and put them away early and as we have been set out to break teams down all season they didn't have a clue what to do and didn't really do anything. In some ways we are a confidence side as much as Southend are and that early second half penalty paid dividends.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 9:21:08 GMT
I agree, TN is often the scapegoat but the first half performance was nothing to do with him. I thought he had a good game today and was as surprised as him when he was take off. He seemed to be having words with GC in the dug out and was clearly unhappy. Was anyone closer to the dugouts than me to see more or hear what was said? Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression?
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Post by socrates on Dec 8, 2019 11:40:54 GMT
Good shout that mate 👍 Yeah and I didn’t leave until I’d clapped every player off and the last one had gone down the tunnel. Can’t believe some left at half time. We’ve lost once at home this season, people need to trust Cogs and his team.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Dec 8, 2019 13:12:29 GMT
… The Southend view by David Thomas | Dec 8, 2019 | News
The Southend view Southend United manager Sol Campbell was left fuming following the Shrimpers’ 4-2 defeat at Bristol Rovers.
Blues dominated the first half and led 2-0 at the break but Rovers fought back in the second half to leave Campbell frustrated at the final whistle.
“It’s extremely difficult to take,” said Campbell. “We had a fantastic first half but I told them at half-time the game wasn’t done. We had to keep doing the same things but we didn’t. “Players weren’t getting back into position and not busting a gut. They do what they want.”
Rovers – who are managed by former Blues coach Graham Coughlan – scored four times without reply in the second half. And Campbell felt his side could have thought the game was already over.
“Maybe some of the players thought the game was done and finished,” said the former England international. “We have to recognise we need to fight for every inch of the pitch and be in the position. You could understand it after 85 minutes but not 10 seconds into the second half.”
However, Campbell also felt the warning signs had been there before Rovers netted. “Even before the break things were happening,” said Campbell. “(Nathan) Bishop picked up the ball and it’s like what are we doing, are we concentrating? “As players you have to concentrate. It was an amazing first half and we’ve let it slip.”
And Campbell continued to bemoan a lack of positional sense. “For the penalty we aren’t in the right position,” said the 45-year-old. “If you’re not in the right position then these things can happen. “We don’t want to get into position, to get in where it hurts or to keep running.
“I’m disappointed because we chucked an amazing first half out the window. “We might as well have lost 4-0.
“We could have gone on and won the game but we stopped doing what we did in the first half. “I don’t know what world they are living in.”
“I’m sick to the core and it hurts me,” said Campbell. “We had the chances to kill the game off and then in the second half everything good
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Post by socrates on Dec 8, 2019 13:53:16 GMT
… The Southend view by David Thomas | Dec 8, 2019 | News The Southend view Southend United manager Sol Campbell was left fuming following the Shrimpers’ 4-2 defeat at Bristol Rovers. Blues dominated the first half and led 2-0 at the break but Rovers fought back in the second half to leave Campbell frustrated at the final whistle. “It’s extremely difficult to take,” said Campbell. “We had a fantastic first half but I told them at half-time the game wasn’t done. We had to keep doing the same things but we didn’t. “Players weren’t getting back into position and not busting a gut. They do what they want.” Rovers – who are managed by former Blues coach Graham Coughlan – scored four times without reply in the second half. And Campbell felt his side could have thought the game was already over. “Maybe some of the players thought the game was done and finished,” said the former England international. “We have to recognise we need to fight for every inch of the pitch and be in the position. You could understand it after 85 minutes but not 10 seconds into the second half.” However, Campbell also felt the warning signs had been there before Rovers netted. “Even before the break things were happening,” said Campbell. “(Nathan) Bishop picked up the ball and it’s like what are we doing, are we concentrating? “As players you have to concentrate. It was an amazing first half and we’ve let it slip.” And Campbell continued to bemoan a lack of positional sense. “For the penalty we aren’t in the right position,” said the 45-year-old. “If you’re not in the right position then these things can happen. “We don’t want to get into position, to get in where it hurts or to keep running. “I’m disappointed because we chucked an amazing first half out the window. “We might as well have lost 4-0. “We could have gone on and won the game but we stopped doing what we did in the first half. “I don’t know what world they are living in.” “I’m sick to the core and it hurts me,” said Campbell. “We had the chances to kill the game off and then in the second half everything good Don’t blame him for being angry about his players but also could have mentioned that we were excellent and unplayable in the second half.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 8, 2019 16:24:40 GMT
Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression? A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 16:32:36 GMT
Sir Tom asked GC why he had been taken off and GC turned on him with a vicious look on his face and gave him both barrels.. Shocking action by GC and let him know my feelings on the subject along the lines of calling a Bully You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression? He was a consolation prize on Bullseye along with a tankard and set of darts.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2019 16:41:20 GMT
You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression?  A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management Yeah so best thing to do about rumours you’ve heard (that unless they come from the players specifically are bullshit) is to post it on the Internet. Great idea Henbury
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 8, 2019 16:44:09 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 8, 2019 16:55:25 GMT
You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression? A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management I assume the players appreciate his style given over that in the near 46 games since he took over we're almost top of the form table , when under DC we were bottom of the table!
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 8, 2019 18:05:17 GMT
A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management I assume the players appreciate his style given over that in the near 46 games since he took over we're almost top of the form table , when under DC we were bottom of the table!  The differing styles of football management right there. Darrell always seemed like one of the boys, which worked superbly for some time & no one could fault it. Graham C however comes across as an older style gaffer, the hard task master if you will. 5th in League one, no complaints with the latter over here.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 8, 2019 20:23:31 GMT
A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management Yeah so best thing to do about rumours you’ve heard (that unless they come from the players specifically are bullshit) is to post it on the Internet. Great idea Henbury Not a "Rumour" as you call it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 20:31:34 GMT
You've referred to GC being a "bully" before, just wondered what else you've seen/heard to form that impression? A few people have told me that he has an "Interesting" approach to coaching & management Whats the interesting approach mate
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