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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 20:32:06 GMT
When we get tonked by Ipswich, should be a few happier people
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 8, 2019 20:49:14 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2019 20:58:27 GMT
Yeah so best thing to do about rumours you’ve heard (that unless they come from the players specifically are bullshit) is to post it on the Internet. Great idea Henbury Not a "Rumour" as you call it Just like the £58m isn’t a rumour? Or are you claiming you don’t know anything again? I’d say actions speak louder than words, the players don’t seem to play or act like they’re being bullied.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 8, 2019 21:54:45 GMT
Is it because we are 5th in the league without Chris Lines? A squad of ‘bullied players’ do not perform this well for their manager. That much is blatant fact. The nay sayers, must try harder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 22:00:34 GMT
Is it because we are 5th in the league without Chris Lines? A squad of ‘bullied players’ do not perform this well for their manager. That much is blatant fact. The nay sayers, must try harder. Agreed, quite why there are even nay sayers is beyond me!
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Post by socrates on Dec 8, 2019 22:39:58 GMT
Coughlan is a tough bloke. There will be players and fans along the way that will think he’s a bully , some might even say he’s a bully, I wonder how many will stand up to him and call him a bully to his face. Footballers are young blokes who earn good money, they need somebody who’s got a strong character to keep them in check and make sure they’re working hard and earning that good money.
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Post by socrates on Dec 8, 2019 23:06:21 GMT
Maybe he came across as a bully at half time on Saturday. If he did then I’m glad he did because it worked. The most decorated British manager in football history always came across as a real nasty piece of work who didn’t take any sh** off of anybody and it’s well documented that he used to go around the nightclubs and drag his young players out by their ears. He really ruled over the whole squad and never let anybody take their foot off of the gas and made sure that his players strived to become as best as they could be. Football managers come in all characters but if our manager is getting a tune out of his players doing it his way and his way is so far successful then all good as far as I’m concerned. I don’t see players handing in transfer requests or not trying on a regular basis. As for people putting rumours on here about him , either put up speak up, say who said it or shut up. This place has had enough damaging rumours to last a club a lifetime.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 8, 2019 23:11:33 GMT
Whatever! A year ago we’d have been very happy to be told we’d stay up and in December 2019 we will be 5th in League 1 with a game in hand. I suspect we’d have been disbelieving but it’s happened. GC is obviously a hard task master who plays a certain style. Not a great style perhaps but he seems to be doing it with budget limitations in place (one out before one in). And is this a serious allegation or just an Internet rumour? Who has actually said it and what’s the evidence. Or are people or even person putting two and two together and getting 5. Crazy. Well done GC and the team. UTG!
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Post by socrates on Dec 8, 2019 23:23:00 GMT
Whatever! A year ago we’d have been very happy to be told we’d stay up and in December 2019 we will be 5th in League 1 with a game in hand. I suspect we’d have been disbelieving but it’s happened. GC is obviously a hard task master who plays a certain style. Not a great style perhaps but he seems to be doing it with budget limitations in place (one out before one in). And is this a serious allegation or just an Internet rumour? Who has actually said it and what’s the evidence. Or are people or even person putting two and two together and getting 5. Crazy. Well done GC and the team. UTG! Yeah I take every Rovers manager , every Rovers player and every Rovers chairman , every owner ,, you see where this is going... on face value. There’s a big demand for rumour on here I get that. I’ve got bigger fish to fry than rumours on football forum.
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Post by giles on Dec 8, 2019 23:23:17 GMT
My issue with GC has always been the way he seems to treat and speak about the more fringe players. He should not make this negativity so clear and public.
I openly admit that I would welcome the club getting rid and would feel more inclined to attend more regularly once he is not there.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 8, 2019 23:26:43 GMT
My issue with GC has always been the way he seems to treat and speak about the more fringe players. He should not make this negativity so clear and public. I openly admit that I would welcome the club getting rid and would feel more inclined to attend more regularly once he is not there. Get rid of a manager who is currently operating at the highest level this club has been, in the last 20 years?
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Post by giles on Dec 8, 2019 23:36:42 GMT
My issue with GC has always been the way he seems to treat and speak about the more fringe players. He should not make this negativity so clear and public. I openly admit that I would welcome the club getting rid and would feel more inclined to attend more regularly once he is not there. Get rid of a manager who is currently operating at the highest level this club has been, in the last 20 years? Not necessarily today. My gut feel though is that the high position will not be sustained. Crowds are also down which affects ability to spend further. Whilst giving a couple of youngsters a couple of minutes here and there he does not seem to have any intention of using any of the fringe players. He never seems to say anything or encouraging about them either. I don’t ask anyone to agree with me but from my perspective I lost the desire to attend after he was appointed and lost a little love for the club. Just the way I feel about things.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 9, 2019 0:36:34 GMT
Get rid of a manager who is currently operating at the highest level this club has been, in the last 20 years? Not necessarily today. My gut feel though is that the high position will not be sustained. Crowds are also down which affects ability to spend further. Whilst giving a couple of youngsters a couple of minutes here and there he does not seem to have any intention of using any of the fringe players. He never seems to say anything or encouraging about them either. I don’t ask anyone to agree with me but from my perspective I lost the desire to attend after he was appointed and lost a little love for the club. Just the way I feel about things. I pretty much felt a similar way this time last year, after the Doncaster hiding that was to be the final nail in DC’s coffin. I came to be rejuvenated over the festive period with GC’s team running Sunderland close & also registering wins over Oxford & Walsall. To then adopt the ‘win ugly’ style and secure wins at Gillingham/Scunthorpe of all places, I felt he was the man to assemble a side that could get things done by hook or by crook. This season so far has proved that this is the case and long may it continue. Very much looking forward to the Portman Road visit next weekend.
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Post by socrates on Dec 9, 2019 0:45:06 GMT
Get rid of a manager who is currently operating at the highest level this club has been, in the last 20 years? Not necessarily today. My gut feel though is that the high position will not be sustained. Crowds are also down which affects ability to spend further. Whilst giving a couple of youngsters a couple of minutes here and there he does not seem to have any intention of using any of the fringe players. He never seems to say anything or encouraging about them either. I don’t ask anyone to agree with me but from my perspective I lost the desire to attend after he was appointed and lost a little love for the club. Just the way I feel about things. Maybe the fringe players you talk about haven’t been pulling their weight, don’t deserve praise or a place in the side and that’s why they’ve become fringe players and we’ve gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls since Cogs has come in a year ago and worked that out. Or would you prefer him to play players who either aren’t good enough or not up for it at the expense of our league position ? Who are these fringe players you talk about anyway ? Not having a dig at you by the way just that we’ve got a small squad and I can’t think if anyone who hasn’t been given a chance.
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Post by giles on Dec 9, 2019 0:53:03 GMT
Not necessarily today. My gut feel though is that the high position will not be sustained. Crowds are also down which affects ability to spend further. Whilst giving a couple of youngsters a couple of minutes here and there he does not seem to have any intention of using any of the fringe players. He never seems to say anything or encouraging about them either. I don’t ask anyone to agree with me but from my perspective I lost the desire to attend after he was appointed and lost a little love for the club. Just the way I feel about things. Maybe the fringe players you talk about haven’t been pulling their weight, don’t deserve praise or a place in the side and that’s why they’ve become fringe players and we’ve gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls since Cogs has come in a year ago and worked that out. Or would you prefer him to play players who either aren’t good enough or not up for it at the expense of our league position ? Who are these fringe players you talk about anyway ? Not having a dig at you by the way just that we’ve got a small squad and I can’t think if anyone who hasn’t been given a chance. Russe, Kelly, Hargreaves plus Lines et al last season. It’s the way that if asked about certain players not in the team he seems to talk them down not say anything encouraging. It’s a case that I just don’t warm to him as our club’s manager and would prefer someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 0:59:17 GMT
I am nearly 6ft tall but i was badly bullied when i was an apprentice and i went to pieces in my job. Thing is people who are bullied struggle to perform. If you look at the squad people like little,craig,davies,rodman,ollie clarke,ogogo,bennett,clarke-harris and upson look to me like players who you could not cross a certain line with regarding bullying. Laying down rules on discipline and training start times as well as showing passion and anger at half time is a completely different matter. I think coughlan expects you to train hard and play hard and if you don't want to do that you will not be getting much game time. But that is not bullying.
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Post by baggins on Dec 9, 2019 6:11:35 GMT
Maybe the fringe players you talk about haven’t been pulling their weight, don’t deserve praise or a place in the side and that’s why they’ve become fringe players and we’ve gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls since Cogs has come in a year ago and worked that out. Or would you prefer him to play players who either aren’t good enough or not up for it at the expense of our league position ? Who are these fringe players you talk about anyway ? Not having a dig at you by the way just that we’ve got a small squad and I can’t think if anyone who hasn’t been given a chance. Russe, Kelly, Hargreaves plus Lines et al last season. It’s the way that if asked about certain players not in the team he seems to talk them down not say anything encouraging. It’s a case that I just don’t warm to him as our club’s manager and would prefer someone else. Maybe he does that on purpose?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 9, 2019 8:03:24 GMT
Not a "Rumour" as you call it Just like the £58m isn’t a rumour? Or are you claiming you don’t know anything again? I’d say actions speak louder than words, the players don’t seem to play or act like they’re being bullied. Maybe you would like to get on your high horse and visit a stallholder at the fruit market and ask them for the letter TP gave them in September outlining details of the offer ? They are most active from about 4 am in the morning
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Post by oldgas on Dec 9, 2019 8:23:31 GMT
Maybe the fringe players you talk about haven’t been pulling their weight, don’t deserve praise or a place in the side and that’s why they’ve become fringe players and we’ve gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls since Cogs has come in a year ago and worked that out. Or would you prefer him to play players who either aren’t good enough or not up for it at the expense of our league position ? Who are these fringe players you talk about anyway ? Not having a dig at you by the way just that we’ve got a small squad and I can’t think if anyone who hasn’t been given a chance. Russe, Kelly, Hargreaves plus Lines et al last season. It’s the way that if asked about certain players not in the team he seems to talk them down not say anything encouraging. It’s a case that I just don’t warm to him as our club’s manager and would prefer someone else. The first 3 are youngsters and because of the nature and closeness of L1 games will only get limited playing time and have to develop their skills and physique on loan, in dvelopment and reserve football. Menayase has bided his time and isn't doing to badly now he's been called upon. Lines was in a bad place last season and his heart wasn't in it. Several people alluded to personal issues, I don't know what they were and it was none of my business but you have to accept the manager knows his players and whether they're good to go. I don't think anyone would say Kelly is our 1st choice left back. He's an OK back-up, but nothing more. What do you want the manager to do? I can't really think of anything more. On Saturday, when we were 2-0 down at half time I thought he might give the youngsters on the bench a run out because I thought the game had gone and there was nothing to lose. When the game restarted and we got back into it he had to keep the experience on the pitch and we battled to a winning position. He did bring a youngster on, but couldn't do that until it looked like we had won. I think he's doing a sterling job, and to some extent is making a silk purse from a pigs ear.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 9, 2019 8:54:30 GMT
Just like the £58m isn’t a rumour? Or are you claiming you don’t know anything again? I’d say actions speak louder than words, the players don’t seem to play or act like they’re being bullied. Maybe you would like to get on your high horse and visit a stallholder at the fruit market and ask them for the letter TP gave them in September outlining details of the offer ? They are most active from about 4 am in the morning Funny, I thought you claim you don't know what the figure means? Or have you changed your mind again and today is the day? Any other rumours you'd like to put out there to wind up the fans or discredit our manager? Or have you filled your monthly quota already?
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