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Post by peterparker on Dec 15, 2019 7:19:28 GMT
What is a good budget or good finanial backing though.
I wouldnt turn down promotion but realistically we would struggle in the championship. Its a league for mega rich money men as football just becomes more of a basket case.
What does any manager expect? I wonder if some of them need to get more realistic as well as the fans.
Sooner or later it is going to have to stop.
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Post by RD on Dec 15, 2019 7:28:35 GMT
What is a good budget or good finanial backing though. I wouldnt turn down promotion but realistically we would struggle in the championship. Its a league for mega rich money men as football just becomes more of a basket case. What does any manager expect? I wonder if some of them need to get more realistic as well as the fans. Sooner or later it is going to have to stop. Genuine question - If we went up, spent nothing other than forced expenditure (I.e. Contractual wage rises) and banked all the TV money etc, what sort of profit would we be looking at? Could it clear a fair wedge of our debt?
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Post by northridinggas on Dec 15, 2019 7:31:02 GMT
What is a good budget or good finanial backing though. I wouldnt turn down promotion but realistically we would struggle in the championship. Its a league for mega rich money men as football just becomes more of a basket case. What does any manager expect? I wonder if some of them need to get more realistic as well as the fans. Sooner or later it is going to have to stop. The implication is that he was getting no money for January, this has to been as a ridiculously short sighted decision. Higher crowds would offset those costs and, if we did make the championship, we are a massively more attractive proposition to potential buyers.
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Post by thegasareback on Dec 15, 2019 7:39:29 GMT
Southend and Plymouth aren’t exactly on the doorstep of Sheffield either. I think this has more to do with not getting backed. Backed by the club, and by the fans. Whether that means no money in Jan, or been told to sell JCH, who knows.
For whatever reason, the bond between GC and the fans hasn’t been there, yes we will all be eternally grateful for what he has done in the last 12 months, but everyone I speak with says the same, they just can’t put their finger on it. Attendances speak for themselves.
In regards to the passion he showed after the game, I think leaving on a high is much easier than if he walked away from a sinking ship.
I have never been his biggest fan, but hold my hands up and he’s done a great job; and would buy him a beer if I saw him. I just hope we get decent compo for GC / JD and any other backroom staff.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 15, 2019 7:44:11 GMT
This could only happen to us, we beat Ipswich for the first time since 1958 away from home, go fourth in league one, and our manager decides to consider a move to a team at the bottom of the league below us.What makes it really odd is that he spent years at Plymouth which is another 100 plus miles further from Sheffield. Got to be more than just distance from home. Maybe there’s been a bust up at home , perhaps he has been given an ultimatum by mrs Coughlan , Graham is in a flat in Bristol city centre most of the week 🤫🤫🤔🤔— who knows Utg People have been known to move house for their jobs. I also understand that employers will help senior staff with the relocation. Just a thought.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 15, 2019 7:45:58 GMT
If GC goes due to the board not backing him I won’t attend another match for the foreseeable future, I hope other ST holders feel the same. The man has performed wonders for our club! It won't make a lot of difference if you're a ST holder. They've already got your money you see.
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Post by Congas on Dec 15, 2019 7:46:28 GMT
There are three yo-yo clubs from our division: Barnsley, Rotherham and Doncaster, who seem to get by alright. Must drive their fans mad though to keep going up just to hit the same brick wall. Two of them have newish stadiums too. Maybe they've paid for them by yo-yoing. Be interesting to see how Brentford manage in their new stadium.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 15, 2019 7:50:49 GMT
Much like every other Gashead this evening, I was left speechless and bemused by this news surfacing only minutes after a truly exceptional away victory. The entire thing is even more bizarre, given GC’s reaction to the away end post match. He was pumped up to say the least. He got Tom Nicholls to score a league goal. Where could he possibly go from there?
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 15, 2019 7:57:38 GMT
If GC goes due to the board not backing him I won’t attend another match for the foreseeable future, I hope other ST holders feel the same. The man has performed wonders for our club! Your never know as GC could be offered doubtless his wage and be home everynight and blame it on lack of backing
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Post by peterparker on Dec 15, 2019 7:58:59 GMT
What is a good budget or good finanial backing though. I wouldnt turn down promotion but realistically we would struggle in the championship. Its a league for mega rich money men as football just becomes more of a basket case. What does any manager expect? I wonder if some of them need to get more realistic as well as the fans. Sooner or later it is going to have to stop. The implication is that he was getting no money for January, this has to been as a ridiculously short sighted decision. Higher crowds would offset those costs and, if we did make the championship, we are a massively more attractive proposition to potential buyers. But if we dont have the wage budget because we are following the rules..... My point is bigger though. Even if we got promoted and were more attractive to a buyer, who are they? The money needed just to tread water is mental and cant go on
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Post by oldgas on Dec 15, 2019 7:59:37 GMT
The thing I am struggling to work out in all of this is why did he say anything about leaving in his after match interview.
He said he wanted to go home and be with his family and think things over. That's fine and his prerogative, but if he intended making a decision on Sunday, Monday whatever, why say anything now?
He could have conveyed his thoughts and feelings to he owners in private and left it at that.
It's all very strange.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 15, 2019 8:01:04 GMT
Maybe there’s been a bust up at home , perhaps he has been given an ultimatum by mrs Coughlan , Graham is in a flat in Bristol city centre most of the week 🤫🤫🤔🤔— who knows Utg People have been known to move house for their jobs. I also understand that employers will help senior staff with the relocation. Just a thought. Maybe his wife is the main bread winner with a cushy job in Leeds. Why would she want to move
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2019 8:03:23 GMT
The thing I am struggling to work out in all of this is why did he say anything about leaving in his after match interview. He said he wanted to go home and be with his family and think things over. That's fine and his prerogative, but if he intended making a decision on Sunday, Monday whatever, why say anything now? He could have conveyed his thoughts and feelings to he owners in private and left it at that. It's all very strange. Bargaining power?
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Post by singupgas on Dec 15, 2019 8:03:27 GMT
The thing I am struggling to work out in all of this is why did he say anything about leaving in his after match interview. He said he wanted to go home and be with his family and think things over. That's fine and his prerogative, but if he intended making a decision on Sunday, Monday whatever, why say anything now? He could have conveyed his thoughts and feelings to he owners in private and left it at that. It's all very strange. I can only think he has done it to get a reaction, the owners should move on if they cant back our manager, when will they ever be ready too. I hope GC stays and we give him a big reception on Saturday, he deserves support, any fans who decide to give him stick show bow their heads. GC barmy army.
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Post by thegasman on Dec 15, 2019 8:08:09 GMT
I too am struggling, especially with the timeline.
Before match tells players likely to be off After match tells public he's thinking about his future 10 mins later, some no mark team oop north sack their manager Then rovers refuse said team permission to speak to GC. Then the world of media 'confirm' he's going t' team oop north
Smacks of an illegal approach to me. If so the club need to stamp on this now, after the snake and now GC, clubs are starting to take the pith. Report the illegal approach, then hold him to his contract but put Hargreaves in charge.
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Post by 31130 on Dec 15, 2019 9:14:02 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning.
What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well?
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Post by landrover on Dec 15, 2019 9:50:31 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? I see that Mansfield are 12 points from a play off place. From their point of view it’s now or never. I find it hard to believe that the board heard about Coughlan’s wish at the same time as we all heard. They must have been approached shortly after losing at home to Cheltenham 0-3 last week. I can only assume that it was turned down resulting in Coughlan deciding to go public. Let’s face it, we are a penny pinching club with no real plan in place to succeed. We happened to get lucky with Coughlan but his actions prove our true status. It was only ever a matter of time before someone came calling but this is a sad indictment of our general position in the football pyramid.
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Post by RD on Dec 15, 2019 10:11:33 GMT
Just figured it it out.
His wife has been unhappy for ages, but Cogs loves it here.
It got to the point where - to get her off his back - he said, "tell you what love, the next time Tom Nichols scores a league goal, I'll pack it all in and move back closer to home".
Cogs thought he was safe as houses.
But along came a Christmas miracle.
FFS.
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Post by justin blue on Dec 15, 2019 10:42:56 GMT
This really smacks of desperation something has happened or is happening that has led to this.
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 15, 2019 10:48:28 GMT
You can see why he’s going now as he knows jch is off and no funds to bring in better and strengthen squad and we’ve peaked. I just hope the right guy is appointed and whoever comes in must realise we’re a club of over achievers, Flynn would be a great manager for us and bring in some decent signings Or garner with his contacts and prem experience would be a good raw choice
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