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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 10:56:40 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? Exactly this! I get missing your family but it’s 5 more months and he could even be offered the chance to leave as soon as we are mathematically unable to reach the play offs. Is it that bloody difficult? Obviously you have to make an exception if it.’s down to serious illness but even then I would question why he does not take a sabbatical. I suspect he.’s trying to make it all look honourable by pinning the blame on the board and the facilities he was happy to work with in order to get his big break in management.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:00:30 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? I see that Mansfield are 12 points from a play off place. From their point of view it’s now or never. I find it hard to believe that the board heard about Coughlan’s wish at the same time as we all heard. They must have been approached shortly after losing at home to Cheltenham 0-3 last week. I can only assume that it was turned down resulting in Coughlan deciding to go public. Let’s face it, we are a penny pinching club with no real plan in place to succeed. We happened to get lucky with Coughlan but his actions prove our true status. It was only ever a matter of time before someone came calling but this is a sad indictment of our general position in the football pyramid. These things don’t happen by accident. A manager will instruct his agent to make noises behind the scenes and see what comes up. Like you say the sudden announcement after the game could well mean that his has been on the cards for a couple of weeks and is being forced into the light to apply pressure. It’s certainly funny how he gives that interview and then Mansfield sack their manager, almost like it was co-ordinated between them.
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Post by gas2 on Dec 15, 2019 11:04:34 GMT
This is always happening with us d c was right to have a go at the owners before he went
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Post by Eaststaffsgas on Dec 15, 2019 11:05:02 GMT
Who did we play on the last day of the relegation season to the Conference? Where was DC from?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:14:19 GMT
It is all a bit wrong. Look8ng back, GC has been possitive about Rovers. The time line of events must mean that he has been considering a move to Mansfield for a while. The club must stand it's ground re contract and compensation. Who the f**k are Mansfield to c9me and take our under contract manager when we are doing so well.
unless, of course, the board have known for a while and not said anything ~ hard to believe our board would not say anything isn't it ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:15:14 GMT
One lesson for the future might be ensuring the next manager lives within an hour or two's drive away. Had problems with Gerry Francis second time around, Mark McGhee and others. Living or moving closer must be a requirement in future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:16:31 GMT
It is all a bit wrong. Look8ng back, GC has been possitive about Rovers. The time line of events must mean that he has been considering a move to Mansfield for a while. The club must stand it's ground re contract and compensation. Who the f**k are Mansfield to c9me and take our under contract manager when we are doing so well. unless, of course, the board have known for a while and not said anything ~ hard to believe our board would not say anything isn't it ? We could stick two fingers up to Mansfield and put him on gardening leave. That way he gets to be with his family and Mansfield get to have a different manager.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:18:24 GMT
It is all a bit wrong. Look8ng back, GC has been possitive about Rovers. The time line of events must mean that he has been considering a move to Mansfield for a while. The club must stand it's ground re contract and compensation. Who the f**k are Mansfield to c9me and take our under contract manager when we are doing so well. unless, of course, the board have known for a while and not said anything ~ hard to believe our board would not say anything isn't it ? We could stick two fingers up to Mansfield and put him on gardening leave. That way he gets to be with his family and Mansfield get to have a different manager. Agree ~ unless they pay the correct compensation ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:18:25 GMT
One lesson for the future might be ensuring the next manager lives within an hour or two's drive away. Had problems with Gerry Francis second time around, Mark McGhee and others. Living or moving closer must be a requirement in future. Good observation that, it does historically seem to be a problem. It puts DC in an even better light after he commuted from Eastleigh and we never had these problems with him. Looking back DC was a rare old breed and one we aren’t likely to see again as GC is proving.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2019 11:18:29 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? Exactly this! I get missing your family but it’s 5 more months and he could even be offered the chance to leave as soon as we are mathematically unable to reach the play offs. Is it that bloody difficult? Obviously you have to make an exception if it.’s down to serious illness but even then I would question why he does not take a sabbatical. I suspect he.’s trying to make it all look honourable by pinning the blame on the board and the facilities he was happy to work with in order to get his big break in management. Who'd be a football club owner plough millions into a club, give two unknowns thier big break in management and they both stick the knife before they leave. Perhaps the truth is Rovers want decent compo and GC's got in a stroop. Nathan Jones quit Luton last season and that only ended in tears for him.
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 15, 2019 11:19:16 GMT
One lesson for the future might be ensuring the next manager lives within an hour or two's drive away. Had problems with Gerry Francis second time around, Mark McGhee and others. Living or moving closer must be a requirement in future. I think we maybe better getting the club Doctor to check the next manager has got some balls!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2019 11:19:37 GMT
It is all a bit wrong. Look8ng back, GC has been possitive about Rovers. The time line of events must mean that he has been considering a move to Mansfield for a while. The club must stand it's ground re contract and compensation. Who the f**k are Mansfield to c9me and take our under contract manager when we are doing so well. unless, of course, the board have known for a while and not said anything ~ hard to believe our board would not say anything isn't it ? We could stick two fingers up to Mansfield and put him on gardening leave. That way he gets to be with his family and Mansfield get to have a different manager. Or we make him work to his contract or he doesn't get paid.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:19:42 GMT
One lesson for the future might be ensuring the next manager lives within an hour or two's drive away. Had problems with Gerry Francis second time around, Mark McGhee and others. Living or moving closer must be a requirement in future. Surely managers have some idea of the geography when they accept the Dam job
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Post by Congas on Dec 15, 2019 11:20:10 GMT
It is all a bit wrong. Look8ng back, GC has been possitive about Rovers. The time line of events must mean that he has been considering a move to Mansfield for a while. The club must stand it's ground re contract and compensation. Who the f**k are Mansfield to c9me and take our under contract manager when we are doing so well. unless, of course, the board have known for a while and not said anything ~ hard to believe our board would not say anything isn't it ? Which is why it's even stranger to hear some of the complete b*llocks that fans spread about them that becomes etched in stone.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:21:36 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? I'm in sales and used to work away and enjoyed it ~ especially when my wife left me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:22:08 GMT
We could stick two fingers up to Mansfield and put him on gardening leave. That way he gets to be with his family and Mansfield get to have a different manager. Agree ~ unless they pay the correct compensation ? Depends if we want to be assholes about it. Is the compo worth more than our desire to get one over on Mansfield for trying to blow our season up? It won’t happen because we’re desperate and couldn’t afford to pay two managers but if I was Darragh MacAnthony and had Peterborough’s money damn right I’d put him on gardening leave until the end of his contract.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:25:52 GMT
Agree ~ unless they pay the correct compensation ? Depends if we want to be assholes about it. Is the compo worth more than our desire to get one over on Mansfield for trying to blow our season up? It won’t happen because we’re desperate and couldn’t afford to pay two managers but if I was Darragh MacAnthony and had Peterborough’s money damn right I’d put him on gardening leave until the end of his contract. Agree, the most important thing is the team and our progression this season. It's all so annoying ~ the club have to say something today as uncertainty is unhealthy to the team and to us fans
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:27:40 GMT
We could stick two fingers up to Mansfield and put him on gardening leave. That way he gets to be with his family and Mansfield get to have a different manager. Or we make him work to his contract or he doesn't get paid. It’s hard enough getting a player who has had his head turned give 100%. How can a manager tell the players he is leaving (if true that is a disgrace given that he hadn’t even had permission to speak to anyone else) and then give his best so we win matches. The whole dynamic has been blown up. Coughlan is basically a bad influence now, given the timeline I fail to see how he can just turn up on Monday morning like nothing has happened.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 15, 2019 11:35:18 GMT
I’ve worked where I’ve lodged in hotels for a week at a time away from home and it isn’t particuarly nice being away from your family all that time. (Although at some times it’s quite peaceful...) anyway - if he and his family have had enough and it’s reached their breaking point and they need to all be together as a unit on a daily basis then I feel for them and understand the reasoning. What I don’t think is the done thing though. Is dropping the bombshell like this at what could be our most pivotal time of the season. GC would have been better off telling the club that he’s off at the end of the season. Giving us more time to put in place a successor and he could have left with potentially a play off place/ promotion on his CV rather than a bit of a stain of walking out on a club mid season. The extra 5 months between now and then wouldn’t have been as bad as they would know that there is an end date to it all. At the end of it GC and family would have been reunited, he would have left honourably and regarded well by the club and fans and we could have moved on without any bitterness. Surely if Mansfield were so desperate for him they would have been prepared to wait for the season end as well? I'm in sales and used to work away and enjoyed it ~ especially when my wife left me Got any jobs going? Please.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:38:19 GMT
I feel sorry for all fans, especially those who travelled to Ipswich. GC mentioned them In his interview but how could he celebrate with them whilst, on the face of it, be plotting to leave at such a crucial time ? He could have waited until the end of the season surely
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