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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 11:42:52 GMT
Now William, this stuff about you being in ISIS.....I did notice you have a bit of hair on your chinney chin chin. Are you growing a beard? I've also been told by your neighbours that you now have a Goat in your back garden? What's that about eh? Is there something you need to tell us? It`s quite simple, Nobby. I`ve decided to devote my life to Sunni Islam. This is purely to provide some balance to the forum, as there is already an extreme Shia fanatic among us. I will not be naming names, as this this would both grossly irresponsible and deeply unfair. And besides, everyone knows it`s Oldie. Tell you what though, this Jihad malarkey is not as much fun as you might think. It`s not all grooming third formers, and heaving homosexuals off the 5th floor of an NCP car park. No indeed. You try getting your hands on an Islamic State duvet cover. Good luck with that. And I`ll tell you something strange. Ever since I tried ordering an Al Qaeda car bumper sticker from Amazon, my phone has been playing up. Whenever I pick it up, there is ten seconds of clicking and whirring before the connection is made. Weird, eh? Still; I`ll get the hang of it all. Inshallah. Whilst I was visiting the States there was plenty of criticism of Trump over his apparent non existent strategy in the Middle East and in particular Iran. Assassinating Soleimani had the potential to unleash a lot of blood letting and despite the blood lust posted on here I was personally happy when this guy's death appeared to be it when the Amricans, wisely, did not respond to the missile attack on their bases in Iraq. But now it seems 176 innocent people lost their lives as a result. So what has been the gain? 177 killed, what's the gain? What's the strategy going forward? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 11:57:06 GMT
I take it as gospel that you've watched "Four Lions" a fair few times? Just the once. A mate lent me the dvd when it first came out. I parted with £5.80 of my hard earned, to see "JoJo Rabbit" at the Orpheus. It`s a satire on Nazi terrorism, rather than Islamic, but it`s a cracking film. Well recommended. How is the wife taking this conversion? Does it cause her any problems down at the WI? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 11:58:34 GMT
It`s quite simple, Nobby. I`ve decided to devote my life to Sunni Islam. This is purely to provide some balance to the forum, as there is already an extreme Shia fanatic among us. I will not be naming names, as this this would both grossly irresponsible and deeply unfair. And besides, everyone knows it`s Oldie. Tell you what though, this Jihad malarkey is not as much fun as you might think. It`s not all grooming third formers, and heaving homosexuals off the 5th floor of an NCP car park. No indeed. You try getting your hands on an Islamic State duvet cover. Good luck with that. And I`ll tell you something strange. Ever since I tried ordering an Al Qaeda car bumper sticker from Amazon, my phone has been playing up. Whenever I pick it up, there is ten seconds of clicking and whirring before the connection is made. Weird, eh? Still; I`ll get the hang of it all. Inshallah. Whilst I was visiting the States there was plenty of criticism of Trump over his apparent non existent strategy in the Middle East and in particular Iran. Assassinating Soleimani had the potential to unleash a lot of blood letting and despite the blood lust posted on here I was personally happy when this guy's death appeared to be it when the Amricans, wisely, did not respond to the missile attack on their bases in Iraq. But now it seems 176 innocent people lost their lives as a result. So what has been the gain? 177 killed, what's the gain? What's the strategy going forward? Are you putting the blame on Trump because some low grade Iranian shot down a civil aircraft? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 12:34:46 GMT
Whilst I was visiting the States there was plenty of criticism of Trump over his apparent non existent strategy in the Middle East and in particular Iran. Assassinating Soleimani had the potential to unleash a lot of blood letting and despite the blood lust posted on here I was personally happy when this guy's death appeared to be it when the Amricans, wisely, did not respond to the missile attack on their bases in Iraq. But now it seems 176 innocent people lost their lives as a result. So what has been the gain? 177 killed, what's the gain? What's the strategy going forward? Are you putting the blame on Trump because some low grade Iranian shot down a civil aircraft? In so far as if he had not had Soleimani killed, this would not have happened. So yes, this tragedy is a direct result of his decision. Then put that decision into the context of his administration's strategy for the region and calculate the cost benefit. We cannot make that calculation as he has no declared strategy. So 177 people are dead because of his decision with no beneficial outcomes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 13:14:42 GMT
Are you putting the blame on Trump because some low grade Iranian shot down a civil aircraft? In so far as if he had not had Soleimani killed, this would not have happened. So yes, this tragedy is a direct result of his decision. Then put that decision into the context of his administration's strategy for the region and calculate the cost benefit. We cannot make that calculation as he has no declared strategy. So 177 people are dead because of his decision with no beneficial outcomes. What utter nonsense. I detailed the Iranian strategy a few pages back, and it is quite clear that the US strategy is to stop that happening! However, are you too simple to realise that neither side will 'declare their strategy'? I'm surprised you left Brexit out as well ! |
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Post by baggins on Jan 10, 2020 13:28:07 GMT
Nothing like a bit of war to keep an unpopular President in power. Hope Boris is taking notes. Maybe he could bomb Nichola Sturgeon in a couple of years time. Worked for Thatcher. |
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Post by baggins on Jan 10, 2020 13:29:17 GMT
Why the hell are we getting involved in this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 14:15:38 GMT
In so far as if he had not had Soleimani killed, this would not have happened. So yes, this tragedy is a direct result of his decision. Then put that decision into the context of his administration's strategy for the region and calculate the cost benefit. We cannot make that calculation as he has no declared strategy. So 177 people are dead because of his decision with no beneficial outcomes. What utter nonsense. I detailed the Iranian strategy a few pages back, and it is quite clear that the US strategy is to stop that happening! However, are you too simple to realise that neither side will 'declare their strategy'? I'm surprised you left Brexit out as well ! Nonsense indeed. You detailed Iranian strategy...what contacts in Iran do you have that gave you that information? I would wager none at all... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 15:37:28 GMT
What utter nonsense. I detailed the Iranian strategy a few pages back, and it is quite clear that the US strategy is to stop that happening! However, are you too simple to realise that neither side will 'declare their strategy'? I'm surprised you left Brexit out as well ! Nonsense indeed. You detailed Iranian strategy...what contacts in Iran do you have that gave you that information? I would wager none at all... No you buffoon. Armies/governments do not publish details of their strategy, especially in the case of Iran where it involves death, destruction and economic ruin of everything they touch ! Open your eyes and maybe you'll see what everyone else is seeing. Lebanon. Fecked up, in a mess, with the Iranian's based there, supplying weapons to Hezbollah in a proxy war against Israel. Yeman. Feckup up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iran supplying the weapons in a proxy war against Saudi. Iraq. Fecked up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iran supplying weapons to anti-western militia. Also Iranian troops operating in Iraq. General Salami was also killed in Iraq. What was he doing there? Saudi - Attacked recently with missiles fired from Iran. Syria - Fecked up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iranian troops based there. Gaza. Fecked up, in a mess, weapons supplied by Iran in a proxy war against Israel. Straits of Hormuz. Ships attacked, boarded and seized. Iran. Feckup up, death of it's own people who had the nerve to protest against the regime. Economically ruined and spending a lot of money supplying weapons to others and attempting to manufacture nuclear weapons. Is it any wonder Trump, the Israelis and the Saudis will do anything they can to stop the Iranians? The Iranians, believe it or not, have also been involved in Venezuela! There's a happy place as well eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 21:37:37 GMT
Nonsense indeed. You detailed Iranian strategy...what contacts in Iran do you have that gave you that information? I would wager none at all... No you buffoon. Armies/governments do not publish details of their strategy, especially in the case of Iran where it involves death, destruction and economic ruin of everything they touch ! Open your eyes and maybe you'll see what everyone else is seeing. Lebanon. Fecked up, in a mess, with the Iranian's based there, supplying weapons to Hezbollah in a proxy war against Israel. Yeman. Feckup up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iran supplying the weapons in a proxy war against Saudi. Iraq. Fecked up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iran supplying weapons to anti-western militia. Also Iranian troops operating in Iraq. General Salami was also killed in Iraq. What was he doing there? Saudi - Attacked recently with missiles fired from Iran. Syria - Fecked up, in a mess, death and destruction, with Iranian troops based there. Gaza. Fecked up, in a mess, weapons supplied by Iran in a proxy war against Israel. Straits of Hormuz. Ships attacked, boarded and seized. Iran. Feckup up, death of it's own people who had the nerve to protest against the regime. Economically ruined and spending a lot of money supplying weapons to others and attempting to manufacture nuclear weapons. Is it any wonder Trump, the Israelis and the Saudis will do anything they can to stop the Iranians? The Iranians, believe it or not, have also been involved in Venezuela! There's a happy place as well eh? Right. So basically everything you say is unsubstantiated opinion when it comes to strategy. The Americans, and equally we, the UK also, have a simple strategy. To protect their oil supplies and maintain their economic interests. Whether that is to the detriment of populations in those areas is of little interest to the Americans (and us). How is this so? What is the evidence for this supposition? Who invaded Iran in WW2? Who orchestrated the overthrow of the democratically (for them) elected government in Iran in 1952? Who supported and maintained a fascist regime in Iran from 1946 until the overthrow in 1979? Who sold that regime billions of $ of military equipment during that period? Moving outside of Iran Who funded and supplied the Mujahedin in Afghanistan in their fight against the Russians (including Bin Laden)? Who supports the Wahabbi regime in Saudi? I could go on, but these are a matter of historical fact. Let's not even talk about the disaster of 2003 in Iraq and the massive loss of civillian life there after we invaded. Now just for a moment, as a Brit, how do you think we would react if the same sequence of events had happened to us. Would our fight against such invasions and events determine us to be terrorists? I think not, so why is it than when people push back against us they are deemed "terrorists" and people blindly accept that determination? The answer of course course is stunning ignorance and astonishing susceptibility to propaganda. So the answer to my question, which you are incapable of answering, is very simple. We are looking after our economic interests and f**k everyone else and we will kill you if shout too loudly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:41:00 GMT
And yet again, you ignore the points I raised about Iran. Sad. The points I mentioned are not based on my opinion of Iran's strategy, but in reality are fact.......unless of course, you can disprove anything I have just listed?
Um.....and you really don't understand jack sh** do you. You mention fighting against invasion.......um....err.....nobody has invaded Iran you muppet.I
Iran spreads death, destruction and economic ruin. Go on you dinosaur, prove me wrong. Show me where in the world where Iranian influence has improved anything.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 11, 2020 6:30:43 GMT
And yet again, you ignore the points I raised about Iran. Sad. The points I mentioned are not based on my opinion of Iran's strategy, but in reality are fact.......unless of course, you can disprove anything I have just listed? Um.....and you really don't understand jack sh** do you. You mention fighting against invasion.......um....err.....nobody has invaded Iran you muppet.I Iran spreads death, destruction and economic ruin. Go on you dinosaur, prove me wrong. Show me where in the world where Iranian influence has improved anything. Oil. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 11, 2020 7:54:30 GMT
Just the once. A mate lent me the dvd when it first came out. I parted with £5.80 of my hard earned, to see "JoJo Rabbit" at the Orpheus. It`s a satire on Nazi terrorism, rather than Islamic, but it`s a cracking film. Well recommended. How is the wife taking this conversion? Does it cause her any problems down at the WI? Doesn`t matter if it does or it doesn`t. Once you`ve converted to Islam, your wife has to do what you say. Try it and see. |
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Post by althepirate on Jan 11, 2020 10:32:06 GMT
How is the wife taking this conversion? Does it cause her any problems down at the WI? Doesn`t matter if it does or it doesn`t. Once you`ve converted to Islam, your wife has to do what you say. Try it and see. I don't recommend that. The last time I told her what to do I had my back to Mecca, I ended up facing it and I didn't move my feet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 11:12:14 GMT
And yet again, you ignore the points I raised about Iran. Sad. The points I mentioned are not based on my opinion of Iran's strategy, but in reality are fact.......unless of course, you can disprove anything I have just listed? Um.....and you really don't understand jack sh** do you. You mention fighting against invasion.......um....err.....nobody has invaded Iran you muppet.I Iran spreads death, destruction and economic ruin. Go on you dinosaur, prove me wrong. Show me where in the world where Iranian influence has improved anything. Nobby, my dearest. The UK invaded Iran during WW2 and sent the Shah into exile in Switzerland, implanting his son as Shah in 1946 (I think that was the year) I have not denied, nor would I, what Iran is doing. I believe their strategic aim is to push western forces out of the region, a constant attack on those forces and those who they deem as collaborating with them, their chosen method. So, I ask again, why are we there? I have given my opinion, as has Hugo, what's yours? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 11:39:44 GMT
And yet again, you ignore the points I raised about Iran. Sad. The points I mentioned are not based on my opinion of Iran's strategy, but in reality are fact.......unless of course, you can disprove anything I have just listed? Um.....and you really don't understand jack sh** do you. You mention fighting against invasion.......um....err.....nobody has invaded Iran you muppet.I Iran spreads death, destruction and economic ruin. Go on you dinosaur, prove me wrong. Show me where in the world where Iranian influence has improved anything. Nobby, my dearest. The UK invaded Iran during WW2 and sent the Shah into exile in Switzerland, implanting his son as Shah in 1946 (I think that was the year) I have not denied, nor would I, what Iran is doing. I believe their strategic aim is to push western forces out of the region, a constant attack on those forces and those who they deem as collaborating with them, their chosen method. So, I ask again, why are we there? I have given my opinion, as has Hugo, what's yours? Um.....I have been quite clear. The US/Saudi/Israeli intention is to stop them. Why were Iranians in Venezuela? That doesn't fit in with your narrative does it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 12:02:06 GMT
Nobby, my dearest. The UK invaded Iran during WW2 and sent the Shah into exile in Switzerland, implanting his son as Shah in 1946 (I think that was the year) I have not denied, nor would I, what Iran is doing. I believe their strategic aim is to push western forces out of the region, a constant attack on those forces and those who they deem as collaborating with them, their chosen method. So, I ask again, why are we there? I have given my opinion, as has Hugo, what's yours? Um.....I have been quite clear. The US/Saudi/Israeli intention is to stop them. Why were Iranians in Venezuela? That doesn't fit in with your narrative does it. We have been in the Middle East long before the Iranians became openly hostile towards us. Why? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 15:10:16 GMT
Um.....I have been quite clear. The US/Saudi/Israeli intention is to stop them. Why were Iranians in Venezuela? That doesn't fit in with your narrative does it. We have been in the Middle East long before the Iranians became openly hostile towards us. Why? They have only been hostile since the religious nutjobs took over........hhhmmmm, maybe there is a clue there.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 22:33:21 GMT
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 14, 2020 8:57:23 GMT
Doesn`t matter if it does or it doesn`t. Once you`ve converted to Islam, your wife has to do what you say. Try it and see. I don't recommend that. The last time I told her what to do I had my back to Mecca, I ended up facing it and I didn't move my feet. I was only kidding, Al. If there`s one thing that we surely all agree on, it`s that women very seldom do anything that we tell them, never mind everything. |
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