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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 18:15:24 GMT
I get that to a point, but in an entertainment industry, if we're all bored of watching it, it kind of defeats the object. The key for me is evolving it slowly. Don't make too many changes too quickly. Easy on the eye football can and does produce winning football too. It just won't happen overnight. I can see where yer coming from, but ta me pal - we will never afford th quality of players that will play exciting an winning football. Thats why although it wasnae pretty GC had a formula that MIGHT just have got us promoted with lesser players which happens ta be all we can afford. Fair comment. We'll never know if Coughlan could have seen it through to promotion. Personally, I think he'd done really well to have us at least 6 or 7 places higher than our ability suggested, but we would have fallen away as a small squad tired and the lack of a plan B worked against us. I would have been perfectly happy with a mid table finish under Coughlan, but would much rather see us try to achieve it by being entertaining as well. DC managed it for two seasons.
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Post by socrates on Jan 10, 2020 18:44:08 GMT
I can see where yer coming from, but ta me pal - we will never afford th quality of players that will play exciting an winning football. Thats why although it wasnae pretty GC had a formula that MIGHT just have got us promoted with lesser players which happens ta be all we can afford. Fair comment. We'll never know if Coughlan could have seen it through to promotion. Personally, I think he'd done really well to have us at least 6 or 7 places higher than our ability suggested, but we would have fallen away as a small squad tired and the lack of a plan B worked against us. I would have been perfectly happy with a mid table finish under Coughlan, but would much rather see us try to achieve it by being entertaining as well. DC managed it for two seasons. Garner may well win promotion doing it but it won’t be with this squad it’s going to take this transfer and the next one in the summer before he’s got his squad if he gets that long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 20:23:26 GMT
Fair comment. We'll never know if Coughlan could have seen it through to promotion. Personally, I think he'd done really well to have us at least 6 or 7 places higher than our ability suggested, but we would have fallen away as a small squad tired and the lack of a plan B worked against us. I would have been perfectly happy with a mid table finish under Coughlan, but would much rather see us try to achieve it by being entertaining as well. DC managed it for two seasons. Garner may well win promotion doing it but it won’t be with this squad it’s going to take this transfer and the next one in the summer before he’s got his squad if he gets that long. I agree. I'd think he would need backing through 3 windows but as you say, will he get that long? I think it's great that we have someone with a clear long term plan, but he does need to balance that with results now, otherwise he won't get the chance.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 10, 2020 20:57:51 GMT
Garner may well win promotion doing it but it won’t be with this squad it’s going to take this transfer and the next one in the summer before he’s got his squad if he gets that long. I agree. I'd think he would need backing through 3 windows but as you say, will he get that long? I think it's great that we have someone with a clear long term plan, but he does need to balance that with results now, otherwise he won't get the chance. Whilst I agree it's a results business I think he'll get time, he must have gone to his interview with a plan of how he wanted to approach the job. The board obviously bought into that plan by giving him a longish contract so surely that indicates they are prepared to back him. If they aren't it begs the question why give him the job in the first place
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 22:14:32 GMT
I agree. I'd think he would need backing through 3 windows but as you say, will he get that long? I think it's great that we have someone with a clear long term plan, but he does need to balance that with results now, otherwise he won't get the chance. Whilst I agree it's a results business I think he'll get time, he must have gone to his interview with a plan of how he wanted to approach the job. The board obviously bought into that plan by giving him a longish contract so surely that indicates they are prepared to back him. If they aren't it begs the question why give him the job in the first place I hope you're right. I'd judge him at the end of next season and am excited by the prospect of a manager with a long term plan for the club, but if this forum is representative of Rovers fans as a whole (unlikely, fortunately!), I do worry that fan pressure might force their hand.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 10, 2020 22:25:35 GMT
Whilst I agree it's a results business I think he'll get time, he must have gone to his interview with a plan of how he wanted to approach the job. The board obviously bought into that plan by giving him a longish contract so surely that indicates they are prepared to back him. If they aren't it begs the question why give him the job in the first place I hope you're right. I'd judge him at the end of next season and am excited by the prospect of a manager with a long term plan for the club, but if this forum is representative of Rovers fans as a whole (unlikely, fortunately!), I do worry that fan pressure might force their hand. Completely agree, hopefully the majority will buy into the fact that this is a long term project and we might have to go backwards to go forwards. I hear all the negativity over recent results but we aren't the only ones on a poor run, Peterborough & Wycombe have both had blips & Ipswich can't buy a win. We're still only outside the play offs on goal difference it's not all as bad as it's being made out
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Post by horfield on Jan 10, 2020 22:43:49 GMT
Watched the managers pre match interview today, he needs a win tomorrow big time, he looked edgy to me. I'm sure he has a long time game plan in his own mind but you get the feeling every day he is with us the promises he's been given don't stack up and he knows he's on a tight rope of uncertainty
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Post by joebananas67 on Jan 11, 2020 17:06:58 GMT
Totally out of his depth
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