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Post by stuartcampbell on Jan 11, 2020 23:34:22 GMT
Hm apologies Pirate, I was mistaken! The reason I looked was because I could've sworn you wanted Garner but must have been your post from last year. Plus I didn't read the "From those names" on your post about the BristolLive candidates, apologies! Although I did find evidence that you preferred Garner to Johnnie Jackson. And I still think your U-Turn on this appointment has been quite, surprising to say the least. Why do so many people on here seem insistent on hammering one of our most consistent and active forum members simply because he liked the idea of Garner? Legit being singled out as if he bloody interviewed and hired him himself. It's weird. Even so, why would his u-turn be a surprise? Have you watched us under Garner? We're an absolute sh*tshow. I was pro-BG when he got appointed and I'm u-turning... you can't not after the first six games. When you get fresh information, you're allowed to change your mind - he seemed promising on paper given his coaching background but we're a travesty so far. My issue isn't he liked the idea of Garner. Although Pirate being probably the biggest supporter of Garner on this platform and with the most knowledge of him when he was actually first linked does single him out a bit. My issue is the U-Turn, and now 4 League games later and not even 3 weeks after his appointment people want him out. I can understand having doubts but I just think it's odd given a) Coughlan left us in an absolute mess off the field, whilst massively overperforming on the field b) This is Garner's first few games of management, it'll take time c) He hasn't even had a full transfer window yet. It just seems incredibly reactionary. If you didn't support Garner's appointment and now want him out, then fair play to you! The limit before you hammered the man is clearly a lot lower than people who backed Garner's appointment, but at least you're sticking to your guns, in a sense. Given how we started the season, playing just like this might I add, maybe the issue isn't Garner? Hell. I see a complete lack of willingness of people to criticise the board when it comes to Garner, if he's such an awful appointment then why would you appoint him in the first place? Me personally, I'll give Garner until the end of February to pick things up, as long as we're not in the relegation zone that is. |
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Post by singupgas on Jan 11, 2020 23:48:20 GMT
The players have to look at themselves too. I would hate to be playing losing each week. Going home to my wife or girlfriend saying I've lost again. Need to have some pride about themselves. Can't let themselves continue to slip down the table.
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Post by socrates on Jan 11, 2020 23:50:09 GMT
Why do so many people on here seem insistent on hammering one of our most consistent and active forum members simply because he liked the idea of Garner? Legit being singled out as if he bloody interviewed and hired him himself. It's weird. Even so, why would his u-turn be a surprise? Have you watched us under Garner? We're an absolute sh*tshow. I was pro-BG when he got appointed and I'm u-turning... you can't not after the first six games. When you get fresh information, you're allowed to change your mind - he seemed promising on paper given his coaching background but we're a travesty so far. My issue isn't he liked the idea of Garner. Although Pirate being probably the biggest supporter of Garner on this platform and with the most knowledge of him when he was actually first linked does single him out a bit. My issue is the U-Turn, and now 4 League games later and not even 3 weeks after his appointment people want him out. I can understand having doubts but I just think it's odd given a) Coughlan left us in an absolute mess off the field, whilst massively overperforming on the field b) This is Garner's first few games of management, it'll take time c) He hasn't even had a full transfer window yet. It just seems incredibly reactionary. If you didn't support Garner's appointment and now want him out, then fair play to you! The limit before you hammered the man is clearly a lot lower than people who backed Garner's appointment, but at least you're sticking to your guns, in a sense. Given how we started the season, playing just like this might I add, maybe the issue isn't Garner? Hell. I see a complete lack of willingness of people to criticise the board when it comes to Garner, if he's such an awful appointment then why would you appoint him in the first place? Me personally, I'll give Garner until the end of February to pick things up, as long as we're not in the relegation zone that is. Good post . I didn’t want him from the beginning and still don’t but sacking him after 6 games would be ludicrous. We have to give him another 10 games and if we’re still as bad after that time then by then we’ll probably be hurtling towards the bottom three and he’ll have to go. But theres a lot of football in ten games and things can change quickly in football. I left when the second went in today and I don’t normally do that. We never looked like scoring yet again and I’m pretty sure we didn’t manage a shot on goal yet again. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jan 12, 2020 0:26:34 GMT
Did we sack DC after his first 6 games, and look where we ended up with him.
Keep the faith guys, I still think Garner can do a good job here given a bit of time.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 12, 2020 7:06:32 GMT
The players have to look at themselves too. I would hate to be playing losing each week. Going home to my wife or girlfriend saying I've lost again. Need to have some pride about themselves. Can't let themselves continue to slip down the table. Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 12, 2020 7:21:15 GMT
The players have to look at themselves too. I would hate to be playing losing each week. Going home to my wife or girlfriend saying I've lost again. Need to have some pride about themselves. Can't let themselves continue to slip down the table. Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. Do you think it’s that or a lack of energy? Genuine question as I wasn’t there yesterday, but IMO a tired team can often look like one that just isn’t trying? |
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Post by baggins on Jan 12, 2020 7:23:09 GMT
The players have to look at themselves too. I would hate to be playing losing each week. Going home to my wife or girlfriend saying I've lost again. Need to have some pride about themselves. Can't let themselves continue to slip down the table. Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. Be glad when the transfer window is shut. |
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Post by garystash on Jan 12, 2020 7:36:14 GMT
Anyone know anything about when Ollie Clarke’s due back? I’m a bit worried that whenever there is an injury update his name doesn’t get mentioned. If he and Ogogo are both out for a while we desperately need to sign a defensive/tough tackling midfielder because otherwise we are just going to get dominated game after game in the middle of the park. Agree with this. I also don't know why we signed a right winger when we already have a perfectly capable one in the building. Surely we needed to sign a right-back to allow our winger to play in his rightful position? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 12, 2020 7:36:50 GMT
Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. Do you think it’s that or a lack of energy? Genuine question as I wasn’t there yesterday, but IMO a tired team can often look like one that just isn’t trying? I honestly dont know, but it looked like a lack of fight to me. It was like that from the KO. If it was 60 mins in then I could say it was due to tiredness but we started like that. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 12, 2020 8:08:00 GMT
Do you think it’s that or a lack of energy? Genuine question as I wasn’t there yesterday, but IMO a tired team can often look like one that just isn’t trying? I honestly dont know, but it looked like a lack of fight to me. It was like that from the KO. If it was 60 mins in then I could say it was due to tiredness but we started like that. A lack of fight, and a lack of understanding what they should be doing, in relation to each other. Ten minutes into the second half, Kilgour booted the ball upfield, and the back line stood and looked at each other, clearly unsure whether to push up or hold their position. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 12, 2020 8:10:31 GMT
The players have to look at themselves too. I would hate to be playing losing each week. Going home to my wife or girlfriend saying I've lost again. Need to have some pride about themselves. Can't let themselves continue to slip down the table. Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. However, the entertainment has improved according to you? |
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 12, 2020 8:18:03 GMT
Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. However, the entertainment has improved according to you? Standing in the biting wind, in a stadium that wouldn`t have looked out of place in Hiroshima ten minutes after they dropped The Bomb, watching an hour and a half of that dross. That`s entertainment? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 12, 2020 8:20:37 GMT
Watching that yesterday, I'm not convinced Garner has the dressing room. No fight, no communication on the pitch, no ideas and in some cases no effort to chase, run or go for 50/50s. I don't think they are playing for him. However, the entertainment has improved according to you? Please find where I have said that. I'll wait.... |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 12, 2020 8:25:19 GMT
However, the entertainment has improved according to you? Please find where I have said that. I'll wait.... |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 12, 2020 8:28:43 GMT
Please find where I have said that. I'll wait.... So, what I said yesterday was that we are still playing just as sh** as we were under GC. I most certainly did not say it was more entertaining. Apology accepted. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 12, 2020 8:30:24 GMT
So, what I said was yesterday was that we are still playing just as sh** as we were under GC. I most certainly did not say it was more entertaining. Apology accepted. Ok, you said as entertaining. Which is also clearly incorrect, either that or you are lying to yourself? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 12, 2020 8:32:49 GMT
So, what I said was yesterday was that we are still playing just as sh** as we were under GC. I most certainly did not say it was more entertaining. Apology accepted. Ok, you said as entertaining. Which is also clearly incorrect, either that or you are lying to yourself? You seem to be unable to understand the difference between the word entertainment and the word result. We have been utter dogshit to watch for 18 months. Yesterday was no exception. Its fairly self evident that results were better under GC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 8:37:04 GMT
I honestly dont know, but it looked like a lack of fight to me. It was like that from the KO. If it was 60 mins in then I could say it was due to tiredness but we started like that. A lack of fight, and a lack of understanding what they should be doing, in relation to each other. Ten minutes into the second half, Kilgour booted the ball upfield, and the back line stood and looked at each other, clearly unsure whether to push up or hold their position. Can clearly remember that moment, time seemed to standstill. Me and a thousand other Gasheads shouting at them to push out and to a man all the players just stood there waiting for the next attack. Downs league defenders would have more ideas. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 12, 2020 8:53:26 GMT
Ok, you said as entertaining. Which is also clearly incorrect, either that or you are lying to yourself? You seem to be unable to understand the difference between the word entertainment and the word result. We have been utter dogshit to watch for 18 months. Yesterday was no exception. Its fairly self evident that results were better under GC. No, I specifically said that both entertainment and results are worse now. And you replied saying that I must be joking and that this was as bad as GC's offerings. It's in black and white. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 12, 2020 9:59:37 GMT
A lack of fight, and a lack of understanding what they should be doing, in relation to each other. Ten minutes into the second half, Kilgour booted the ball upfield, and the back line stood and looked at each other, clearly unsure whether to push up or hold their position. Can clearly remember that moment, time seemed to standstill. Me and a thousand other Gasheads shouting at them to push out and to a man all the players just stood there waiting for the next attack. Downs league defenders would have more ideas. But was that the players or BG's instructions as we were playing into the wind? If the former why didn't he scream at them to move forward? Second half we did improve and JCH very nearly scored when it was still 0-0, but we've no defensive CM's, so Donny could just cut though our midfield, Sercs and Upson(?) both picking up cards trying to defend. Somebody suggested Kilgore as a DCM and perhaps if Davies is now fit and Ogogo/OC not then that's a drastic option for this weeks away games, as playing THD right mid clearly cost us the game yesterday. If it's down to players just being tired perhaps BG just needs to target one game this week and then send a second string side to the other. Then start afresh v Rotherham or Fleetwood after a weeks/10 days rest. The GPS stats must be telling him what's the true position? |
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