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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 16:12:12 GMT
Wtf will that achieve will the increased heart rate make the virus stronger, wend just said the health secretary did the same, you can just imagine these people running through their front doors shouting were in lock down to not spread the virus, oh feck erm sorry family ohh Corner
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 16:29:06 GMT
Calling someone a coward is not an insult! What I'm owning is a right to free speech and a free vote free against suppression by the left wing bullies and a right to democracy. You call someone a coward and then say it's not an insult, you own it! I said its a cowardly supposition. That's not calling you a coward its saying you used a cowardly supposition. Which I believe you did, wholeheartedly. Please don't wriggle stand by what said. I've said it so many times before, you Lefties don't like anyone disagreeing with you and always become insulting. Your wholehearted beliefs were kicked into the dustbin by the nation. This nation doesnt want bullies and abusers in power. Your insults mean nothing and never will.
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 16:37:54 GMT
Thanks. I know the system is pretty useless in sorting out claims and this something I was aware of when UC was being rolled out and an expert came into our workplace to talk us through it. You could see a lot of the problems coming. When I see the difficulties some families have it makes me feel even stronger that they deserve so much more, certainly financially more but also other forms of support. It’s why I get set annoyed by a generation (not all but in huge numbers) who view benefits as a lifestyle choice when we should be using the system to provide for those who most need it. What i forgot to include sorry was the point that for most it's not a choice it's a necessity, if you use it as a choice then you need another source of income any guesses where that comes from. The issue many forget is the vast majority of genuine claimants under claim what they are entitled to ,the advice given by the dss is to get to citizens advice or one of the many other charities set up to help people claim as the form is difficult to fill in online and one simple mistake can have a large effect on a claim. Consequentially many of the 1/2 million new claimants due to corona-virus will have filled the form wrong and will not get feck all ,some will be over paid then possably end up in court for fraud all will have to pay it back. it's fecked up big time. Here is an example of someone filling the form honestly without thinking. I know someone who filled out the form not incorrectly but honestly, basically they can't go out alone for their and others safety and anxiety reasons, the courts recently ruled that if people can't get out and about without suffering massively then they should get the motability component of pip, Due to the ruling every pip claim on mental health grounds was reassessed and most would be awarded without having to reclaim, however the dss said to this person, you stated you cant go out due to issues and stay in to avoid issues, so therefore by your own admission you don't need the motability component. What that person should have done was to also state that they cant go out alone and need someone with them at all times, this would have probably ended with the claim being paid, I will expand on the issue later if i feel like it. not having a go but just explaining the way it is if your unlucky enough to either suffer with an long term illness and ned to claim pip What i will stress is if you are one of those laid off permanently due to the virus, set up a claim from the first day you didn't work as an odd quirk in the uk is if you claim your stamp gets paid, if you don't claim there will be a large gap in your stamp contributions, which will bite you on the arse if you need to claim later in life, Self employed have a different set of rules which i know nothing about
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 16:53:09 GMT
I don’t suppose he could possibly have been running for any other reason!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 27, 2020 16:53:20 GMT
I said its a cowardly supposition. That's not calling you a coward its saying you used a cowardly supposition. Which I believe you did, wholeheartedly. Please don't wriggle stand by what said. I've said it so many times before, you Lefties don't like anyone disagreeing with you and always become insulting. Your wholehearted beliefs were kicked into the dustbin by the nation. This nation doesnt want bullies and abusers in power. Your insults mean nothing and never will. sorry cant help but shrug at this response. This country voted consistently for the party that brought you austerity. That cheered as the pay rise for nurses was defeated. And now we talk of the 'heroes'in healthcare saving lives and all that. That's nice and all but how much did you care before? I'm just saying that you should take some Dam responsibility for being part of the voting electorate that supports policies like the one above and not blame it on the fact Corbyn was a twat.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 27, 2020 16:59:50 GMT
Please don't wriggle stand by what said. I've said it so many times before, you Lefties don't like anyone disagreeing with you and always become insulting. Your wholehearted beliefs were kicked into the dustbin by the nation. This nation doesnt want bullies and abusers in power. Your insults mean nothing and never will. sorry cant help but shrug at this response. This country voted consistently for the party that brought you austerity. That cheered as the pay rise for nurses was defeated. And now we talk of the 'heroes'in healthcare saving lives and all that. That's nice and all but how much did you care before? I'm just saying that you should take some f**king responsibility for being part of the voting electorate that supports policies like the one above and not blame it on the fact Corbyn was a twat. And you have the f**king nerve to call me a bully because I said hiding behind Corbyn as a reason for voting for a party that ripped the guts out of the NHS was cowardice. Please.
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 18:02:24 GMT
sorry cant help but shrug at this response. This country voted consistently for the party that brought you austerity. That cheered as the pay rise for nurses was defeated. And now we talk of the 'heroes'in healthcare saving lives and all that. That's nice and all but how much did you care before? I'm just saying that you should take some f**king responsibility for being part of the voting electorate that supports policies like the one above and not blame it on the fact Corbyn was a twat. And you have the f**king nerve to call me a bully because I said hiding behind Corbyn as a reason for voting for a party that ripped the guts out of the NHS was cowardice. Please. I cared so much I've worked in healthcare for 15 years plus one day every week for free. I've personally complimented you on the work you are doing and the help you have given people on this forum. I can only assume your comments are due to the strain you are under at the present time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 18:19:44 GMT
And you have the f**king nerve to call me a bully because I said hiding behind Corbyn as a reason for voting for a party that ripped the guts out of the NHS was cowardice. Please. I cared so much I've worked in healthcare for 15 years plus one day every week for free. I've personally complimented you on the work you are doing and the help you have given people on this forum. I can only assume your comments are due to the strain you are under at the present time. Peace people. The time will come, after this is over, when we can look back and judge the situation our public services were in at the moment we needed them most. That, will be the moment of judgement.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 27, 2020 18:22:55 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 27, 2020 18:33:39 GMT
And you have the f**king nerve to call me a bully because I said hiding behind Corbyn as a reason for voting for a party that ripped the guts out of the NHS was cowardice. Please. I cared so much I've worked in healthcare for 15 years plus one day every week for free. I've personally complimented you on the work you are doing and the help you have given people on this forum. I can only assume your comments are due to the strain you are under at the present time. Perhaps. Apologies.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 27, 2020 18:34:45 GMT
I cared so much I've worked in healthcare for 15 years plus one day every week for free. I've personally complimented you on the work you are doing and the help you have given people on this forum. I can only assume your comments are due to the strain you are under at the present time. Peace people. The time will come, after this is over, when we can look back and judge the situation our public services were in at the moment we needed them most. That, will be the moment of judgement. I think we already know that our Public Services were massively stretched ,my judgement will be on how quickly we have been able to generate additional capacity,resource etc as the truth is no Country funds Services in excess of 50% plus to deal with a once in a 100 years problem.
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Post by althepirate on Mar 27, 2020 18:51:06 GMT
I cared so much I've worked in healthcare for 15 years plus one day every week for free. I've personally complimented you on the work you are doing and the help you have given people on this forum. I can only assume your comments are due to the strain you are under at the present time. Perhaps. Apologies. Ok accepted. Everyone knows you and your colleagues are doing an immense job, I can't begin to imagine the strain you are under. Take care, stay safe Officer.
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Post by inee on Mar 27, 2020 19:28:24 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them. I think the uk will end up like this, unfortunately locking people down will spread it to others in the same house, block of flats etc , i also think that's the reason for the huge hikes in italy and the steady rise over here, it's going to get a lot worse before it starts going away. Unfortunately the government are stuck betwixt a rock and a hard place, yes many more will die sometimes whole family units gone ,but the other reality of carrying on as we were will infect more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 20:15:54 GMT
Peace people. The time will come, after this is over, when we can look back and judge the situation our public services were in at the moment we needed them most. That, will be the moment of judgement. I think we already know that our Public Services were massively stretched ,my judgement will be on how quickly we have been able to generate additional capacity,resource etc as the truth is no Country funds Services in excess of 50% plus to deal with a once in a 100 years problem. There is a much bigger question than this awful event. But for another day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 20:19:54 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them. I am sure the good officer will correct me, but from what I understand it s the elderly and most vulnerable that are dying in the highest numbers. Are we living too long?
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 27, 2020 20:29:32 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them. I am sure the good officer will correct me, but from what I understand it s the elderly and most vulnerable that are dying in the highest numbers. Are we living too long? We may be,guess it's from who's perspective your looking at it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 20:31:37 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them. So, why didn't the virus rip through China?
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 27, 2020 21:00:08 GMT
Italy locked down for over 2 weeks yet deaths in the last 24hrs at over 900 are the highest yet. Whilst the rate of infection appears to be slowing it's not consistent which is a worry. I spend 3/4 months a year in Italy and my worry is that they are 2 Countries the prosperous North and the very poor South if as is likely the virus rampages through the South it will make Lombardy look like a child's party,3 million in Naples with a low level of healthcare,I fear for them. So, why didn't the virus rip through China? Have no idea Nobby but I'm not sure I believe the figures that China have put out .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 21:03:21 GMT
So, why didn't the virus rip through China? Have no idea Nobby but I'm not sure I believe the figures that China have put out . I dont believe the Chinese propaganda machine for a 2nd. But, they did clamp down much harder on social interaction than we have. As have the Singaporeans.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 27, 2020 21:05:52 GMT
Have no idea Nobby but I'm not sure I believe the figures that China have put out . I dont believe the Chinese propaganda machine for a 2nd. But, they did clamp down much harder on social interaction than we have. As have the Singaporeans. Agreed guess you can only do that in a totalitarian state.
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