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Post by francegas on Nov 26, 2021 18:40:42 GMT
I'll be mightily f**ked off if France or the UK go into a lockdown for Christmas. Booked to go back to the UK and see my parents (both well into their 80s) for the first time in 2 years. Makes you wonder why we get jabbed if we don't get the freedom we thought we'd all get Christmas will be ok I’m 99% sure , there’s no way Rishi & Boris are going to miss out on all that spending . That’s why they’ve bought themselves time with the South African countries being put on the red list now . Not sure how to answer your last sentence ….. I’d of thought it was pretty obvious . They couldn’t of given a jab for a mutation that hadn’t yet happened could they ? Thanks for the reassurance Yatton over Christmas. Of course I understand they couldn't give a jab for a mutation that hadn't yet happened, however if the current vaccine doesn't give the same level of protection against the mutation does that mean we will potentially be back to square one ? |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 26, 2021 18:45:08 GMT
Sorry to hear your trip is at risk, FG. However, I'd agree with the rest that you're much more likely to have a lockdown in France than here.
When's your flights/travel booked? Perhaps you can come down early?
Half of my team is French and they're now concerned they'll not be able to fly over for the Xmas party - not quite the same as your situation though.
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Post by francegas on Nov 26, 2021 18:49:12 GMT
Sorry to hear your trip is at risk, FG. However, I'd agree with the rest that you're much more likely to have a lockdown in France than here. When's your flights/travel booked? Perhaps you can come down early? Half of my team is French and they're now concerned they'll not be able to fly over for the Xmas party - not quite the same as your situation though. Booked on the eurotunnel for 19th December (providing the french fishermen are not blocking the eurotunnel)!. It may be a case of uprooting early if there's any hint of a lockdown here. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 26, 2021 19:41:37 GMT
Christmas will be ok I’m 99% sure , there’s no way Rishi & Boris are going to miss out on all that spending . That’s why they’ve bought themselves time with the South African countries being put on the red list now . Not sure how to answer your last sentence ….. I’d of thought it was pretty obvious . They couldn’t of given a jab for a mutation that hadn’t yet happened could they ? Thanks for the reassurance Yatton over Christmas. Of course I understand they couldn't give a jab for a mutation that hadn't yet happened, however if the current vaccine doesn't give the same level of protection against the mutation does that mean we will potentially be back to square one ? Pretty sure I’ve heard the vaccine can be altered to be effective against new variants but obvs that will take a bit of time. Similar to the flu vaccines each year I guess. |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 26, 2021 19:56:21 GMT
Sorry to hear your trip is at risk, FG. However, I'd agree with the rest that you're much more likely to have a lockdown in France than here. When's your flights/travel booked? Perhaps you can come down early? Half of my team is French and they're now concerned they'll not be able to fly over for the Xmas party - not quite the same as your situation though. Booked on the eurotunnel for 19th December (providing the french fishermen are not blocking the eurotunnel)!. It may be a case of uprooting early if there's any hint of a lockdown here. 19th you say? Haven't got anything planned actually.. Anyone fancy a protest? |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 26, 2021 21:45:38 GMT
Booked on the eurotunnel for 19th December (providing the french fishermen are not blocking the eurotunnel)!. It may be a case of uprooting early if there's any hint of a lockdown here. 19th you say? Haven't got anything planned actually.. Anyone fancy a protest? Yeah I’m up for a protest against those bloody deserters who left our great country 🇬🇧 to live in foreign climes 🇫🇷, the cheek thinking they can bloody come back here as and when they choose 😡 |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2021 5:53:12 GMT
From Moderna “ We just announced our strategy to address the omicron (B.1.1.529) SARS-CoV-2 variant: first, we have already tested a higher dose booster of mRNA-1273 (100 µg) in healthy adults; second, we are already studying two multi-valent booster candidates in the clinic that were designed to anticipate mutations such as those that have emerged in the Omicron variant; and third, we are rapidly advancing a Omicron-specific booster candidate (mRNA-1273.529). lnkd.in/dr_6hweU |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 27, 2021 6:11:21 GMT
From Moderna “ We just announced our strategy to address the omicron (B.1.1.529) SARS-CoV-2 variant: first, we have already tested a higher dose booster of mRNA-1273 (100 µg) in healthy adults; second, we are already studying two multi-valent booster candidates in the clinic that were designed to anticipate mutations such as those that have emerged in the Omicron variant; and third, we are rapidly advancing a Omicron-specific booster candidate (mRNA-1273.529). lnkd.in/dr_6hweU Had my Moderna booster on Thursday, felt a bit groggy 🥴 on Friday . |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2021 10:01:23 GMT
From Moderna “ We just announced our strategy to address the omicron (B.1.1.529) SARS-CoV-2 variant: first, we have already tested a higher dose booster of mRNA-1273 (100 µg) in healthy adults; second, we are already studying two multi-valent booster candidates in the clinic that were designed to anticipate mutations such as those that have emerged in the Omicron variant; and third, we are rapidly advancing a Omicron-specific booster candidate (mRNA-1273.529). lnkd.in/dr_6hweU Had my Moderna booster on Thursday, felt a bit groggy 🥴 on Friday . Yep my dad had the same. No update yet for under 40s if we will even get one… Pfizer BioNTech have said a new vaccine will take about 100 days with Oxford saying they’re ready to produce very quickly if the new strain is resistant to vaccines. Novovax already testing on the new strain too |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 27, 2021 17:15:13 GMT
This is hard work 😓 We’ve tested more because more people think they might have covid , so more people go for a test . As for the Eastern European countries and their infrastructure etc I would of thought that was quite obvious. Simple conclusions from simple people… here are the facts (last time I checked anyway, I can’t imagine its changed much) Not so long ago Germany had a positivity rate of 8-10% and 2-3x higher than the uk, suggesting they miss a fair chunk of positive cases. Germany also tests 1/10 of the amount we do. Some countries either charge for tests, or are about to. “Plan B” will do sod all, it’s just more fear driven media hype, which is why Yatton has got the Kleenex out. You only have to see the rest of the U.K, which already had it, to see that. The public do not have an appetite for the restrictions that would actually get somewhere. 👆 Who remembers this absolute prune ? 🙄 |
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Post by francegas on Nov 27, 2021 20:03:06 GMT
You really couldn't make it up....24 hrs after posting I'd be f**ked off if my trip back to the UK for Christmas is affected and low and behold looks like we won't now be travelling back😡😡
Can't have multiple isolation addresses on the passenger locator form, now it's a frigging pcr test on day 2, get those results in 48 hrs minimum (That's not allowing for christmas postage) ...what's the bloody point in going if I'm house bound all over Christmas.
The wife is climbing the walls in rage.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 27, 2021 20:26:27 GMT
You really couldn't make it up....24 hrs after posting I'd be f**ked off if my trip back to the UK for Christmas is affected and low and behold looks like we won't now be travelling back😡😡 Can't have multiple isolation addresses on the passenger locator form, now it's a frigging pcr test on day 2, get those results in 48 hrs minimum (That's not allowing for christmas postage) ...what's the bloody point in going if I'm house bound all over Christmas. The wife is climbing the walls in rage. Gutted for you France ☹️. Although the tests aren’t so expensive now and relatively easy to do , so don’t give in too quickly. |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 27, 2021 22:51:10 GMT
You really couldn't make it up....24 hrs after posting I'd be f**ked off if my trip back to the UK for Christmas is affected and low and behold looks like we won't now be travelling back😡😡 Can't have multiple isolation addresses on the passenger locator form, now it's a frigging pcr test on day 2, get those results in 48 hrs minimum (That's not allowing for christmas postage) ...what's the bloody point in going if I'm house bound all over Christmas. The wife is climbing the walls in rage. I’m not sure I understand exactly What’s the issue? |
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Post by francegas on Nov 27, 2021 23:32:46 GMT
You really couldn't make it up....24 hrs after posting I'd be f**ked off if my trip back to the UK for Christmas is affected and low and behold looks like we won't now be travelling back😡😡 Can't have multiple isolation addresses on the passenger locator form, now it's a frigging pcr test on day 2, get those results in 48 hrs minimum (That's not allowing for christmas postage) ...what's the bloody point in going if I'm house bound all over Christmas. The wife is climbing the walls in rage. I’m not sure I understand exactly What’s the issue? The main issues are not being able to have multiple address locations on your passenger location form when awaiting results of a pcr test meaning you cant travel and have to self isolate which buggers up our plans over christmas. Secondly the costs of pcr test are far higher than the lateral flow test . |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 27, 2021 23:41:17 GMT
I’m not sure I understand exactly What’s the issue? The main issues are not being able to have multiple address locations on your passenger location form when awaiting results of a pcr test meaning you cant travel and have to self isolate which buggers up our plans over christmas. Secondly the costs of pcr test are far higher than the lateral flow test . Two days at one address and £20 (ish) for a test . Not that prohibitive surely? |
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Post by francegas on Nov 28, 2021 0:13:00 GMT
The main issues are not being able to have multiple address locations on your passenger location form when awaiting results of a pcr test meaning you cant travel and have to self isolate which buggers up our plans over christmas. Secondly the costs of pcr test are far higher than the lateral flow test . Two days at one address and £20 (ish) for a test . Not that prohibitive surely? No I agree providing I can change at minimal cost our eurotunnel booking for a day or two earlier then book at an in store boots pcr test and get the results through before then travelling down to bournemouth. The problem then arises what will the French require by way of testing for us to get back and costs of that on top should they take the same stance as the UK. |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 28, 2021 10:53:13 GMT
Tbh I think you'll be fine here francegas. Firstly, the test can be taken immediately in the UK, meaning you'll get guaranteed results the next day. I'd personally do one of the following: - Get a PCR test sent to your address in France, take it with you and do it as soon as you arrive. And drop it off at a drop off box - Go to a boots or testing site immediately as you leave the tunnel - Get the test sent in advance to the place you'll be staying at and do it as soon as you arrive. And drop it off at a drop off box - Google to see if they have an arrivals testing centre at the tunnel in UK. Airports have them, I'd be surprised it there wasn't one there (you can even get same day result, but expect to pay £100+) Make sure you use a drop off box company rather than post. As you say, post can cause delays but a drop off box is picked up once/twice a day specifically for that reason. Put in the one address you'll stay at and once your result comes the next day you'll be free to do whatever. Even if the police stopped you after you've been negative, who cares? You're negative, you can do what you want. A company I used that was pretty good and cheap was Randox, think it was £40 for a next day PCR result. I'd also order them today because prices will undoubtedly go up after yesterdays announcement. Let me know how it goes! |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 28, 2021 14:35:01 GMT
Two days at one address and £20 (ish) for a test . Not that prohibitive surely? No I agree providing I can change at minimal cost our eurotunnel booking for a day or two earlier then book at an in store boots pcr test and get the results through before then travelling down to bournemouth. The problem then arises what will the French require by way of testing for us to get back and costs of that on top should they take the same stance as the UK.I would suggest that the French taking the same stance as the UK on ANY subject are pretty remote.....   |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 30, 2021 16:22:46 GMT
So, how we all feeling about the return of masks? Personally it makes no difference to me.
I am glad that we no longer have Hancock leading, can you see the difference in competency and decision making?!
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 30, 2021 16:52:02 GMT
So, how we all feeling about the return of masks? Personally it makes no difference to me. I am glad that we no longer have Hancock leading, can you see the difference in competency and decision making?! I might suggest that he was more concerned about having a mask (of sorts) on a different part of his anatomy…….🤔🤪 |
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