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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 1:18:46 GMT
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Post by baggins on Dec 24, 2021 5:31:22 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 24, 2021 6:38:30 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. Of course it is. He only supports something that he believes supports his narrative. Stuart showed him right up using his own link and “research” to suggest that actually face masks do work. As he used the link to back up his views, I wonder if he will concede that they now do work.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 24, 2021 8:03:05 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. But it's a tyranny!! A tyranny of freedom of the press, free elections and freedom to opt out of being vaccinated. Can't you see that you are being oppressed into wearing a face mask that only doesn't work if it's made by Blue Peter? Wake up sheep.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 24, 2021 8:58:10 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. Just block him 👍😁
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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 9:23:40 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. In hospital 'with' Omicron or 'of' Omicron? Words and facts matter. 65% of new Covid hospital patients in England in the two weeks to December 21 only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness, official data shows.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 24, 2021 9:29:34 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. In hospital 'with' Omicron or 'of' Omicron? Words and facts matter. 65% of new Covid hospital patients in England in the two weeks to December 21 only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness, official data shows. Tyranny: Government by a ruler or small group of people who have unlimited power over the people in their country or state and use it unfairly and cruelly Cambridge dictionary. Because words and facts matter.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 24, 2021 9:31:36 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. In hospital 'with' Omicron or 'of' Omicron? Words and facts matter. 65% of new Covid hospital patients in England in the two weeks to December 21 only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness, official data shows. As words matter, shouldn't that be 'despite Omicron'. Plenty would be in because of complications but not formally tested until admission.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 24, 2021 9:42:32 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. Just block him 👍😁 Haha , love that he’s still commentating on my posts ( I’m guessing?) but I can’t see it 😂 This post is hidden Display post
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 24, 2021 9:49:04 GMT
In hospital 'with' Omicron or 'of' Omicron? Words and facts matter. 65% of new Covid hospital patients in England in the two weeks to December 21 only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness, official data shows. As words matter, shouldn't that be 'despite Omicron'. Plenty would be in because of complications but not formally tested until admission. I don't think it matters. It's pretty obvious Pirate doesn't research the credentials of his sources and it would also appear he doesn't even read some of them. I literally only looked at 3. One was the anti mammogram "doctor". Never a more disgusting and discredited person could you bring forth. The next was his bogus claim on face mask efficacy that actually proved they do work unless you make them at home and even they work with circa 20% effectiveness, so better than no mask. Finally, a meme designed to make it look like we are all stupid for being under a tyranny when he can't even say who the tyrants are and ignores all examples that prove we are not under a tyranny, or even a conspiracy. He doesn't appear to be able to hold a conversation about what he actually believes when challenged without spamming sh**e again. This in my opinion makes him disingenuous.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 24, 2021 9:55:55 GMT
As words matter, shouldn't that be 'despite Omicron'. Plenty would be in because of complications but not formally tested until admission. I don't think it matters. It's pretty obvious Pirate doesn't research the credentials of his sources and it would also appear he doesn't even read some of them. I literally only looked at 3. One was the anti mammogram "doctor". Never a more disgusting and discredited person could you bring forth. The next was his bogus claim on face mask efficacy that actually proved they do work unless you make them at home and even they work with circa 20% effectiveness, so better than no mask. Finally, a meme designed to make it look like we are all stupid for being under a tyranny when he can't even say who the tyrants are and ignores all examples that prove we are not under a tyranny, or even a conspiracy. He doesn't appear to be able to hold a conversation about what he actually believes when challenged without spamming sh**e again. This in my opinion makes him disingenuous. I suspect there's a very personal reason for it but I agree its very unhelpful and borderline obsessive.
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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 9:56:00 GMT
Freedom of the press says Hugo. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Pfizer director James C. Smith became chairman of Reuters Foundation April 2020. That same month, Reuters Foundation launched "COVID19 Reporting Hub" which indoctrinates international journos into Reuters preferred Covid narrative. They are partnered with the World Economic Forum and the BBC (who recieve funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) amongst others. Pfizer/Reuters executive James C. Smith is also heavily involved with the World Economic Forum, and sits on their International Business Council, as well as their 'Partnering Against Corruption Initiative'. Pfizer board of directors also includes Gates Foundation CEO Susan Desmond-Hellman, former Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs Suzanne Nora Johnson and Former US Federal Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb. Attachment Deleted
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 24, 2021 10:11:29 GMT
As words matter, shouldn't that be 'despite Omicron'. Plenty would be in because of complications but not formally tested until admission. I don't think it matters. It's pretty obvious Pirate doesn't research the credentials of his sources and it would also appear he doesn't even read some of them. I literally only looked at 3. One was the anti mammogram "doctor". Never a more disgusting and discredited person could you bring forth. The next was his bogus claim on face mask efficacy that actually proved they do work unless you make them at home and even they work with circa 20% effectiveness, so better than no mask. Finally, a meme designed to make it look like we are all stupid for being under a tyranny when he can't even say who the tyrants are and ignores all examples that prove we are not under a tyranny, or even a conspiracy. He doesn't appear to be able to hold a conversation about what he actually believes when challenged without spamming sh**e again. This in my opinion makes him disingenuous. I know, sadly. I was just pointing out that words can be twisted to suit agendas. Pirate was wrong with the last two manager appointments, had to eat humble pie over the tone with Barton scepticism at the start of his tenure and been shown to be wrong on several matters with coronavirus. Merry Christmas Wes, but I think for the time being I've engaged with you enough. Maybe we'll converse again on this in the New Year.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 24, 2021 10:21:56 GMT
Watch that get ignored. Honestly, I think this thread has had it as far as I'm concerned, I just can't stand reading the blokes posts anymore. Of course it is. He only supports something that he believes supports his narrative. Stuart showed him right up using his own link and “research” to suggest that actually face masks do work. As he used the link to back up his views, I wonder if he will concede that they now do work. C’mon pirate stop ignoring this. Will you now admit that face masks work, after Stuart proved with you own source that you use to try and demonstrate a point? If you don’t accept/admit it, do you then admit by association that your sources are bullshit?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 24, 2021 10:31:32 GMT
Freedom of the press says Hugo. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Pfizer director James C. Smith became chairman of Reuters Foundation April 2020. That same month, Reuters Foundation launched "COVID19 Reporting Hub" which indoctrinates international journos into Reuters preferred Covid narrative. They are partnered with the World Economic Forum and the BBC (who recieve funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) amongst others. Pfizer/Reuters executive James C. Smith is also heavily involved with the World Economic Forum, and sits on their International Business Council, as well as their 'Partnering Against Corruption Initiative'. Pfizer board of directors also includes Gates Foundation CEO Susan Desmond-Hellman, former Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs Suzanne Nora Johnson and Former US Federal Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb. View AttachmentUm...if the press are not free, how do you know about it? Do you understand how tyranny works?
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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 11:49:06 GMT
As words matter, shouldn't that be 'despite Omicron'. Plenty would be in because of complications but not formally tested until admission. I don't think it matters. It's pretty obvious Pirate doesn't research the credentials of his sources and it would also appear he doesn't even read some of them. I literally only looked at 3. One was the anti mammogram "doctor". Never a more disgusting and discredited person could you bring forth. The next was his bogus claim on face mask efficacy that actually proved they do work unless you make them at home and even they work with circa 20% effectiveness, so better than no mask. Finally, a meme designed to make it look like we are all stupid for being under a tyranny when he can't even say who the tyrants are and ignores all examples that prove we are not under a tyranny, or even a conspiracy. He doesn't appear to be able to hold a conversation about what he actually believes when challenged without spamming sh**e again. This in my opinion makes him disingenuous. I'm not being disingenuous, but certainly looks like you are. The mammogram "doctor" wasn't the source of the information, I simply agreed with his comment on the situation. The source of the information was an article written By Maryanne Demasi, PhD about the the non-profit group of over 80 public health officers and medical researchers who formed an alliance , called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT), who filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court to obtain and disseminate the data upon which the FDA made its decision to license Pfizer’s vaccine. The initial releases showed thousands of deaths and over 160,000 adverse reactions in the first 90 days of roll out and now the FDA want 75 years to release all of the documents, which isn't at all suspicious. Much. Then there is your disingenuous remark about my "bogus claim on face mask efficacy". Bit of a straw man argument from you here, that study did show that cloth face masks reduced indoor aerosols by only 10% and surgical masks only 12% and not enough to prevent infections, both mask types the vast majority of people I see wearing. You fail to mention and skipped over the other studies I provided. There will be ones elsewhere that do disagree (there isn't a consensus) and is certainly contentious, but what I did say was "plenty of research on facemasks to show they have little or no benefit and in some cases do more harm than good", evidence which I provided. I didn't even mention In 2010 the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.”
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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 11:50:07 GMT
Of course it is. He only supports something that he believes supports his narrative. Stuart showed him right up using his own link and “research” to suggest that actually face masks do work. As he used the link to back up his views, I wonder if he will concede that they now do work. C’mon pirate stop ignoring this. Will you now admit that face masks work, after Stuart proved with you own source that you use to try and demonstrate a point? If you don’t accept/admit it, do you then admit by association that your sources are bullshit? In 2010, the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.”
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 24, 2021 12:27:18 GMT
I don't think it matters. It's pretty obvious Pirate doesn't research the credentials of his sources and it would also appear he doesn't even read some of them. I literally only looked at 3. One was the anti mammogram "doctor". Never a more disgusting and discredited person could you bring forth. The next was his bogus claim on face mask efficacy that actually proved they do work unless you make them at home and even they work with circa 20% effectiveness, so better than no mask. Finally, a meme designed to make it look like we are all stupid for being under a tyranny when he can't even say who the tyrants are and ignores all examples that prove we are not under a tyranny, or even a conspiracy. He doesn't appear to be able to hold a conversation about what he actually believes when challenged without spamming sh**e again. This in my opinion makes him disingenuous. I'm not being disingenuous, but certainly looks like you are. The mammogram "doctor" wasn't the source of the information, I simply agreed with his comment on the situation. The source of the information was an article written By Maryanne Demasi, PhD about the the non-profit group of over 80 public health officers and medical researchers who formed an alliance , called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT), who filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court to obtain and disseminate the data upon which the FDA made its decision to license Pfizer’s vaccine. The initial releases showed thousands of deaths and over 160,000 adverse reactions in the first 90 days of roll out and now the FDA want 75 years to release all of the documents, which isn't at all suspicious. Much. Then there is your disingenuous remark about my "bogus claim on face mask efficacy". Bit of a straw man argument from you here, that study did show that cloth face masks reduced indoor aerosols by only 10% and surgical masks only 12% and not enough to prevent infections, both mask types the vast majority of people I see wearing. You fail to mention and skipped over the other studies I provided. There will be ones elsewhere that do disagree (there isn't a consensus) and is certainly contentious, but what I did say was "plenty of research on facemasks to show they have little or no benefit and in some cases do more harm than good", evidence which I provided. I didn't even mention In 2010 the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.” You skipped over the part of face mask study. I filled in what you missed so again you are being misleading. The dodgy doctors was tweeting some other sh**e that you liked. You literally quoted his tweet. I looked him up. So another lie.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 24, 2021 12:32:06 GMT
C’mon pirate stop ignoring this. Will you now admit that face masks work, after Stuart proved with you own source that you use to try and demonstrate a point? If you don’t accept/admit it, do you then admit by association that your sources are bullshit? In 2010, the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.” Well done for avoiding the question. How about this time you try to answer it?
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Post by pirate on Dec 24, 2021 12:37:06 GMT
I'm not being disingenuous, but certainly looks like you are. The mammogram "doctor" wasn't the source of the information, I simply agreed with his comment on the situation. The source of the information was an article written By Maryanne Demasi, PhD about the the non-profit group of over 80 public health officers and medical researchers who formed an alliance , called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency (PHMPT), who filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court to obtain and disseminate the data upon which the FDA made its decision to license Pfizer’s vaccine. The initial releases showed thousands of deaths and over 160,000 adverse reactions in the first 90 days of roll out and now the FDA want 75 years to release all of the documents, which isn't at all suspicious. Much. Then there is your disingenuous remark about my "bogus claim on face mask efficacy". Bit of a straw man argument from you here, that study did show that cloth face masks reduced indoor aerosols by only 10% and surgical masks only 12% and not enough to prevent infections, both mask types the vast majority of people I see wearing. You fail to mention and skipped over the other studies I provided. There will be ones elsewhere that do disagree (there isn't a consensus) and is certainly contentious, but what I did say was "plenty of research on facemasks to show they have little or no benefit and in some cases do more harm than good", evidence which I provided. I didn't even mention In 2010 the US National Academy of Sciences declared that, in the community setting, “face masks are not designed or certified to protect the wearer from exposure to respiratory hazards.” You skipped over the part of face mask study. I filled in what you missed so again you are being misleading. The dodgy doctors was tweeting some other sh**e that you liked. You literally quoted his tweet. I looked him up. So another lie. The "dodgy doctor" as you call him, shared the exact same article above that I've again provided, although I will admit I was actually mistaken and the accompanying quote: “It is dystopian for the government to give Pfizer billions, mandate Americans to take its product, prohibit Americans from suing for harm, but yet refuse to let Americans see the data underlying its licensure”, was actually from Aaron Siri, US attorney acting on behalf of PHMPT, the plaintiff. The "dodgy doctor" was merely sharing the article and highlighting the quote.
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