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Post by oldie on Jun 21, 2022 20:26:33 GMT
Which country are you in to garner these views? China? Singapore? New Zealand? Taiwan? Japan? Europe? USA? Will be interesting. I was in C America. I'm out anyway, cheers. Leave you guys to it for now. That location, is incongruous with your views, so I don't see the relevance. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 22, 2022 12:44:29 GMT
I was in C America. I'm out anyway, cheers. Leave you guys to it for now. That location, is incongruous with your views, so I don't see the relevance. 🤷🏽♂️ This makes no sense. |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jun 22, 2022 15:47:21 GMT
I was working in Spain last week.
Tuesday pm - light cough
Tuesday night - vomiting
Weds morning - vomiting. Slept til midday
Weds PM - back to bed after 2 hours work
Thurs & Fri - Raging fever, shivers, monster headache. No food.
Fri pm - tested NEGATIVE for Covid. Flew home.
Sat am -slept all morning.
Sat Pm - tested POSITIVE for Covid.
Since then, trying to get rid of cough
Memo to you Gas : This is nasty stuff. Avoid it !
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Post by baggins on Jun 22, 2022 16:04:39 GMT
I was working in Spain last week. Tuesday pm - light cough Tuesday night - vomiting Weds morning - vomiting. Slept til midday Weds PM - back to bed after 2 hours work Thurs & Fri - Raging fever, shivers, monster headache. No food. Fri pm - tested NEGATIVE for Covid. Flew home. Sat am -slept all morning. Sat Pm - tested POSITIVE for Covid. Since then, trying to get rid of cough Memo to you Gas : This is nasty stuff. Avoid it ! Been vaccinated? |
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Post by oldie on Jun 22, 2022 20:03:56 GMT
That location, is incongruous with your views, so I don't see the relevance. 🤷🏽♂️ This makes no sense. To the semi literate. But you do advance nonsense, so should we be surprised? |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Jun 23, 2022 7:31:56 GMT
I was working in Spain last week. Tuesday pm - light cough Tuesday night - vomiting Weds morning - vomiting. Slept til midday Weds PM - back to bed after 2 hours work Thurs & Fri - Raging fever, shivers, monster headache. No food. Fri pm - tested NEGATIVE for Covid. Flew home. Sat am -slept all morning. Sat Pm - tested POSITIVE for Covid. Since then, trying to get rid of cough Memo to you Gas : This is nasty stuff. Avoid it ! Been vaccinated? You bet ! Still have chesty cough and the sweats one week on. But normal temp. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 23, 2022 10:35:06 GMT
I was working in Spain last week. Tuesday pm - light cough Tuesday night - vomiting Weds morning - vomiting. Slept til midday Weds PM - back to bed after 2 hours work Thurs & Fri - Raging fever, shivers, monster headache. No food. Fri pm - tested NEGATIVE for Covid. Flew home. Sat am -slept all morning. Sat Pm - tested POSITIVE for Covid. Since then, trying to get rid of cough Memo to you Gas : This is nasty stuff. Avoid it ! Been vaccinated? Maybe he could try a healthy diet instead ? 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 10:35:39 GMT
Funny the varying degrees to which this virus effects people. I have had all three jabs and recently had C19 for the 3rd time. Each time very mild and just a scratch at the back of the throat with a dull headache. Now I am well versed with the symptoms, or at least the symptoms that I get personally, I think it may well be more than 3 contractions.
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 23, 2022 13:12:01 GMT
🤷🏽♂️ This makes no sense. To the semi literate. But you do advance nonsense, so should we be surprised? Cheers. Another pointless post. I was a little interested in how my location had any relation to my views, and the other travellers I spoke to. But on reflection, I don't actually care what you think. No offence intended at all but your continued angle wrt my posts is super tedious. I don't need reassurances from this forum like some of you guys seem to. Try opening your eyes n ears and you'll find many, many people with similar views to me. 👍🏼 |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 23, 2022 13:14:32 GMT
Maybe he could try a healthy diet instead ? 🙄 Assuming you have not noticed the most common accompanying uhc's with covid. A healthy diet, along with exercise would have saved countless lives and is generally a good idea. However you, you can do what you like and get your 6 monthly jabs regardless of anything else and feel just fine. Good on ya kiddo. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 23, 2022 13:54:30 GMT
Maybe he could try a healthy diet instead ? 🙄 Assuming you have not noticed the most common accompanying uhc's with covid. A healthy diet, along with exercise would have saved countless lives and is generally a good idea. However you, you can do what you like and get your 6 monthly jabs regardless of anything else and feel just fine. Good on ya kiddo. Lucky I’m healthy then with no UHC’s. Plus the vaccine because I believe in science unlike you , you crackpot. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 23, 2022 19:53:22 GMT
To the semi literate. But you do advance nonsense, so should we be surprised? Cheers. Another pointless post. I was a little interested in how my location had any relation to my views, and the other travellers I spoke to. But on reflection, I don't actually care what you think. No offence intended at all but your continued angle wrt my posts is super tedious. I don't need reassurances from this forum like some of you guys seem to. Try opening your eyes n ears and you'll find many, many people with similar views to me. 👍🏼 They are not all locked up. 😉 |
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 23, 2022 19:58:14 GMT
Maybe he could try a healthy diet instead ? 🙄 Assuming you have not noticed the most common accompanying uhc's with covid. A healthy diet, along with exercise would have saved countless lives and is generally a good idea. However you, you can do what you like and get your 6 monthly jabs regardless of anything else and feel just fine. Good on ya kiddo. A good diet, healthy lifestyle and appropriate vaccines in tandem is probably the best idea. For the sake of argument would you have a covid vaccine in 10 years time once it was proven to be safe and effective? Have you and your family had polio and MMR vaccines? |
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Post by oldie on Jun 23, 2022 20:29:09 GMT
Assuming you have not noticed the most common accompanying uhc's with covid. A healthy diet, along with exercise would have saved countless lives and is generally a good idea. However you, you can do what you like and get your 6 monthly jabs regardless of anything else and feel just fine. Good on ya kiddo. A good diet, healthy lifestyle and appropriate vaccines in tandem is probably the best idea. For the sake of argument would you have a covid vaccine in 10 years time once it was proven to be safe and effective? Have you and your family had polio and MMR vaccines? Probably After the cowardice of letting others prove the risk level. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 23, 2022 21:02:55 GMT
A good diet, healthy lifestyle and appropriate vaccines in tandem is probably the best idea. For the sake of argument would you have a covid vaccine in 10 years time once it was proven to be safe and effective? Have you and your family had polio and MMR vaccines? Probably After the cowardice of letting others prove the risk level. That may be your interpretation. Were mothers who refused thalidomide cowards? My question was to understand what barriers there may be to someone not wanting a vaccine and if they hold those principles in the face of longer term evidence. It is my understanding that the covid jabs actually had as much testing (as a proportion of hours in a lab) as other current safe vaccines. What it cannot have is long term heath data. From what I have read Gashead79 thinks lifestyle choices are more effective than vaccines. I do not agree but a better diet may be preferable to a vaccine that we do not know enough about. I wondered if he was OK with some vaccines or if he really believes a good long walk and a plate of salad is a substitute for polio or measles preventing treatment. |
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Post by Gassy on Jun 23, 2022 21:06:54 GMT
A good diet, healthy lifestyle and appropriate vaccines in tandem is probably the best idea. For the sake of argument would you have a covid vaccine in 10 years time once it was proven to be safe and effective? Have you and your family had polio and MMR vaccines? Probably After the cowardice of letting others prove the risk level. Nothing cowardly about it, that’s what clinical trials are for. Just a shame some believe their opinion is worth more than the trial |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 23, 2022 22:42:35 GMT
Probably After the cowardice of letting others prove the risk level. Nothing cowardly about it, that’s what clinical trials are for. Just a shame some believe their opinion is worth more than the trial Crackpots ? 🙄 |
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Post by oldie on Jun 23, 2022 22:45:20 GMT
Probably After the cowardice of letting others prove the risk level. Nothing cowardly about it, that’s what clinical trials are for. Just a shame some believe their opinion is worth more than the trial Yeah there is. Clinical trials are not absolute, the point that Fintanstack makes. We had a decent amount of small batch human testing on top of lab results. It looks fine. But we cannot be absolutely sure, only time will show that. The point is that Covid is a pathogen that can kill the vulnerable and as it stands the vaccines suppress transmission and negative outcomes. So helping protect ourselves and others. Protect others. Unless a person locks themselves away they will interact with others, but without knowing whether they are vulnerable or not. No amount of healthy diet, or lifestyle is going to make a person immune, they may well survive an infection as a result, but at the same time be infectious early in the cycle of illness without knowing it. There, at that point, is the moment of cowardice. They will not take the vaccine because in their mind it's veracity is not be absolute. They are scared. It's not, (absolute) but most of us will jump in and take it because it helps us and others. Take the risk. Btw Fintanstack, the comparison with Thalidomide is not valid. By refusing that therapy, the lady in question risked nobody else's life. The drug was not treating a transmissible pathogen. So we need to call it for what it is. Rank cowardice. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 23, 2022 22:53:15 GMT
Nothing cowardly about it, that’s what clinical trials are for. Just a shame some believe their opinion is worth more than the trial Yeah there is. Clinical trials are not absolute, the point that Fintanstack makes. We had a decent amount of small batch human testing on top of lab results. It looks fine. But we cannot be absolutely sure, only time will show that. The point is that Covid is a pathogen that can kill the vulnerable and as it stands the vaccines suppress transmission and negative outcomes. So helping protect ourselves and others. Protect others. Unless a person locks themselves away they will interact with others, but without knowing whether they are vulnerable or not. No amount of healthy diet, or lifestyle is going to make a person immune, they may well survive an infection as a result, but at the same time be infectious early in the cycle of illness without knowing it. There, at that point, is the moment of cowardice. They will not take the vaccine because in their mind it's veracity is not be absolute. They are scared. It's not, (absolute) but most of us will jump in and take it because it helps us and others. Take the risk. Btw Fintanstack, the comparison with Thalidomide is not valid. By refusing that therapy, the lady in question risked nobody else's life. The drug was not treating a transmissible pathogen. So we need to call it for what it is. Rank cowardice. Rank *selfishness |
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 24, 2022 2:14:38 GMT
Yeah there is. Clinical trials are not absolute, the point that Fintanstack makes. We had a decent amount of small batch human testing on top of lab results. It looks fine. But we cannot be absolutely sure, only time will show that. The point is that Covid is a pathogen that can kill the vulnerable and as it stands the vaccines suppress transmission and negative outcomes. So helping protect ourselves and others. Protect others. Unless a person locks themselves away they will interact with others, but without knowing whether they are vulnerable or not. No amount of healthy diet, or lifestyle is going to make a person immune, they may well survive an infection as a result, but at the same time be infectious early in the cycle of illness without knowing it. There, at that point, is the moment of cowardice. They will not take the vaccine because in their mind it's veracity is not be absolute. They are scared. It's not, (absolute) but most of us will jump in and take it because it helps us and others. Take the risk. Btw Fintanstack, the comparison with Thalidomide is not valid. By refusing that therapy, the lady in question risked nobody else's life. The drug was not treating a transmissible pathogen. So we need to call it for what it is. Rank cowardice. Rank *selfishness That is a well thought out response and I think you talked yourself into agreeing with me and talked me into agreeing with you. Selfishness is a better term than cowardice in this instance. |
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