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Post by gashead79 on Jun 28, 2022 20:00:51 GMT
It's not supposed to be a competition. I am relating the gact that I've had many, many jabs due to my travel previously. You e declared the USA bit but I don't believe that is a country where any funky jabs are required? Obviously not aware of your other travels but I have been around and required vaccinations for that. I have no idea what a "funky" jabs are? Perhaps you could elaborate using adult language? For the record the USA removed inbound testing and medical record requirements just two weeks ago. It is also true that there are many in the States that espouse the same nonsense as you. Subsequently they have suffered one of the worse death rates per capita in the developed world. And that is, in no small measure, down to people like you. Adult language? Ah, you see the age thing is relevant..didn't take long did it? Jabs away from the normal course that we get in UK. Death rates? Yes. That's those stat things again isn't it? Did they use 'within 28 days' like us? Down to people like me? How so? Or are you just continuing the onslaught! |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 28, 2022 20:04:48 GMT
I hear this stuff all the time from certain family members, who refused vaccinations, and were lucky enough not to have caught covid. This in their eyes is proof that vaccines are in some way pointless. I am guessing here, but they might have changed their tune if they had caught it. Sadly they take it a step further and insist the whole vaccination programme is part of a larger scheme to control society, managed by a shadowy world elite. Nobody ever said that anyone who is vaccinated will never catch Covid. It was always an incomplete treatment. Perhaps rather more incomplete than the scientists and the public hoped, but it seems pretty clear to me that the correlation between the vaccination rollout and the declining death rate cannot be ignored. "but it seems pretty clear to me that the correlation between the vaccination rollout and the declining death rate cannot be ignored." What is the explanation for the same decline, in countries without access to vaccines? Do we believe in natural immunity? Do we believe people are being more careful? Did we really believe the death rate..Consider that testing has reduced dramatically and they were recording all deaths within 28 days of a positive test. Discussion points rather than arguments btw. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 28, 2022 20:08:06 GMT
If they actually believe those types of conspiracy theories then it's unlikely you could reason with them anyway. Precisely Or, and including, people like GH79 who, on paper, is willing to kill others on the back of his cowardice backed by crackpot ideology. What a guy. You are a very rude guy. I am a family man with elderly relatives and young children. This is a public forum and some of the 5hite you come out with is an embarrassment to yourself. I post as honestly as I can, we can't and don't all need to agree. If you are unable to be respectful, I'll just ignore you like many others already have. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 28, 2022 20:12:38 GMT
"It is an inarguable fact that Vitamin C helps lower the risk of common colds. The common cold is a coronavirus." But the degree and value to which your body has to ingest Vitamin C makes that argument invalid. Nobody does. Nor probably could during a normal daily cycle. I agree. I think Gashead79's stance on healthy lifestyle and how it relates to Coronavirus can be easily knocked down. That does not mean I am not able to understand how he may have come to his conclusion. I think his thought process amounts to someone who is happy telling a person with chronic clinical depression to cheer up. I also do not think he has done enough to convince me that just because he is healthy that that is the reason he has not contacted Covid. I have known other fit and healthy antivaxers who did catch it, and one in particular was very poorly with it. He also refused to wear a mask and so while I was secretly smug that he caught it, I was also angry about all the people he would have been in contact with. I probably have contracted covid.. I'm not an antivaxer. Wearing a mask obviously didn't work for many others either.. My health piece relates to the information available on deaths and the associated uhc's. Cheers. |
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Post by Gassy on Jun 28, 2022 21:09:30 GMT
Vaccines were never stated to be a one and only dose. That's just an outright lie. And no, a random blog or crackpot online isn't an official source of the vaccines only ever being single dose We were told that every person would need 2 shots, 3 weeks apart, to be protected(fully vaccinated). We were told 2 jabs were needed from the current vaccines and that the length of effectiveness was unknown but predicted to drop after 6 months. Your statement of, “We were told the first(and only) jab was for vulnerable, elderly people.” is quite frankly made up. At least get your fiction consistent |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 21:53:10 GMT
That's an incredible, condescending, statement. To all age groups. It shouldn't be. Or am I supposed to say that everybody, regardless of age and life experience, converses in the same way? Nah, it's just you looking for angles to continue having a pop. Crack on, I'm truly not fussed what you think. It appears that you have a problem. You said: "So I can now understand why you might feel the need to claim higher ground as use the language that you do" Then claim you said something else. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 21:53:57 GMT
Let's be frank. The responses from GH79 are absolutely bizarre. In your opinion. So was Gassy right? |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 21:56:00 GMT
I have no idea what a "funky" jabs are? Perhaps you could elaborate using adult language? For the record the USA removed inbound testing and medical record requirements just two weeks ago. It is also true that there are many in the States that espouse the same nonsense as you. Subsequently they have suffered one of the worse death rates per capita in the developed world. And that is, in no small measure, down to people like you. Adult language? Ah, you see the age thing is relevant..didn't take long did it? Jabs away from the normal course that we get in UK. Death rates? Yes. That's those stat things again isn't it? Did they use 'within 28 days' like us? Down to people like me? How so? Or are you just continuing the onslaught! Starter for 10. Explain exactly, what are funky jabs? |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 21:58:24 GMT
Precisely Or, and including, people like GH79 who, on paper, is willing to kill others on the back of his cowardice backed by crackpot ideology. What a guy. You are a very rude guy. I am a family man with elderly relatives and young children. This is a public forum and some of the 5hite you come out with is an embarrassment to yourself. I post as honestly as I can, we can't and don't all need to agree. If you are unable to be respectful, I'll just ignore you like many others already have. You might indeed find it "rude" to call you out, but it's not me who is risking the lives of others. That would be you. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 21:59:30 GMT
We were told that every person would need 2 shots, 3 weeks apart, to be protected(fully vaccinated). We were told 2 jabs were needed from the current vaccines and that the length of effectiveness was unknown but predicted to drop after 6 months. Your statement of, “We were told the first(and only) jab was for vulnerable, elderly people.” is quite frankly made up. At least get your fiction consistent It's hard work with this guy isn't it. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2022 22:03:14 GMT
I agree. I think Gashead79's stance on healthy lifestyle and how it relates to Coronavirus can be easily knocked down. That does not mean I am not able to understand how he may have come to his conclusion. I think his thought process amounts to someone who is happy telling a person with chronic clinical depression to cheer up. I also do not think he has done enough to convince me that just because he is healthy that that is the reason he has not contacted Covid. I have known other fit and healthy antivaxers who did catch it, and one in particular was very poorly with it. He also refused to wear a mask and so while I was secretly smug that he caught it, I was also angry about all the people he would have been in contact with. I probably have contracted covid.. I'm not an antivaxer. Wearing a mask obviously didn't working for many others either.. My health piece relates to the information available on deaths and the associated uhc's. Cheers. So Now you are saying you contracted Covid 19? So pray tell, how many people did you put at risk, given your stance? Rough estimate will do. |
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Post by aghast on Jun 28, 2022 22:49:24 GMT
I hear this stuff all the time from certain family members, who refused vaccinations, and were lucky enough not to have caught covid. This in their eyes is proof that vaccines are in some way pointless. I am guessing here, but they might have changed their tune if they had caught it. Sadly they take it a step further and insist the whole vaccination programme is part of a larger scheme to control society, managed by a shadowy world elite. Nobody ever said that anyone who is vaccinated will never catch Covid. It was always an incomplete treatment. Perhaps rather more incomplete than the scientists and the public hoped, but it seems pretty clear to me that the correlation between the vaccination rollout and the declining death rate cannot be ignored. "but it seems pretty clear to me that the correlation between the vaccination rollout and the declining death rate cannot be ignored." What is the explanation for the same decline, in countries without access to vaccines? Do we believe in natural immunity? Do we believe people are being more careful? Did we really believe the death rate..Consider that testing has reduced dramatically and they were recording all deaths within 28 days of a positive test. Discussion points rather than arguments btw. The Office for National Statistics published research showing that deaths in unvaccinated people in the UK were higher than those who had received the vaccine. Difficult for me to comment on other countries because I don't know enough about their healthcare regimes, lifestyles and Covid precautions. I certainly do believe in some level of natural and herd immunity. It gets complicated of course when we talk about people being more 'careful'. From what I have read and directly observed, there is a link between those who do not wish to have a vaccination and those who refused to wear masks and socially distance. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 29, 2022 5:11:19 GMT
I agree. I think Gashead79's stance on healthy lifestyle and how it relates to Coronavirus can be easily knocked down. That does not mean I am not able to understand how he may have come to his conclusion. I think his thought process amounts to someone who is happy telling a person with chronic clinical depression to cheer up. I also do not think he has done enough to convince me that just because he is healthy that that is the reason he has not contacted Covid. I have known other fit and healthy antivaxers who did catch it, and one in particular was very poorly with it. He also refused to wear a mask and so while I was secretly smug that he caught it, I was also angry about all the people he would have been in contact with. I probably have contracted covid.. I'm not an antivaxer. Wearing a mask obviously didn't work for many others either.. My health piece relates to the information available on deaths and the associated uhc's. Cheers. Do you think that by not being vaccinated and not wearing a mask that you had a higher liklihood of passing on Covid to someone? Do you accept that while not perfect, masks do reduce infection rates? I can understand your stance on the vaccine, even if I do not agree with you but if you did not wear a mask that is just ignorant and selfish. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 29, 2022 10:39:57 GMT
I probably have contracted covid.. I'm not an antivaxer. Wearing a mask obviously didn't work for many others either.. My health piece relates to the information available on deaths and the associated uhc's. Cheers. Do you think that by not being vaccinated and not wearing a mask that you had a higher liklihood of passing on Covid to someone? Do you accept that while not perfect, masks do reduce infection rates? I can understand your stance on the vaccine, even if I do not agree with you but if you did not wear a mask that is just ignorant and selfish. Careful Next he will demand to know how old you are. Anything but give a direct answer. |
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Post by francegas on Jul 24, 2022 7:51:02 GMT
Now Coronavirus seems to be off the radar I see the WHO have declared the new project fear. Yep they have now declared monkeypox as the new global health emergency.
With 15000 cases worldwide of which 98% of those affected are gay or bisexual men the answer is be loyal to your partner, no kinky sex and you won't get it.
Nothing to fear here so let's move onto the next virus.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 24, 2022 8:12:37 GMT
Now Coronavirus seems to be off the radar I see the WHO have declared the new project fear. Yep they have now declared monkeypox as the new global health emergency. With 15000 cases worldwide of which 98% of those affected are gay or bisexual men the answer is be loyal to your partner, no kinky sex and you won't get it. Nothing to fear here so let's move onto the next virus. What if someone is single? |
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 24, 2022 10:41:07 GMT
It only effects those kinky, promiscuous gays, so really the WHO should probably just ignore it.
Spoken like a true blue.
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Post by oldie on Jul 24, 2022 11:01:35 GMT
It only effects those kinky, promiscuous gays, so really the WHO should probably just ignore it. Spoken like a true blue. I thought that. Quite shocked at those comments from France. |
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Post by trevorgas on Jul 24, 2022 12:12:53 GMT
It only effects those kinky, promiscuous gays, so really the WHO should probably just ignore it. Spoken like a true blue. I thought that. Quite shocked at those comments from France. Isn't everybody promiscuous!! |
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Post by oldie on Jul 24, 2022 13:41:05 GMT
I thought that. Quite shocked at those comments from France. Isn't everybody promiscuous!! That's the point. 😜 |
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