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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2020 16:12:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 16:13:16 GMT
Leicester City sit in a Champions League place, void the season and will they miss out on a spot in the next seasons competition and cost them tens of millions - if that occurs I’m sure they take legal action to claim compensation. They will argue the season should have been completed, regardless of the delay and presumably nothing in the Premier League constitution to back up a decision to void a season. If the season is deemed to end now and the current top four qualify for a Champions League spot every team with a mathematical chance of getting into the top four will also take legal action for the windfall they will be missing. Then you have the Championship. If no teams are promoted to the Prem you will have possibly the top 8,9 or 10 teams suing for the potential loss of hundreds of millions they could have lost out on. Knock on effect for each division, albeit for smaller sums. It is not unprecedented for multi million pound legal cases to be brought when a team feels they have wrongly been denied a position in a league or cup. How much did West Ham have to pay Sheffield United in an out of court settlement to fend off a lengthy court case? This is totally different to anything we’ve had can’t see it happening,surely one life is worth more than all those millions. This is no ones fault,so tell me if the leagues start playing again October the season ends end of November,players contracts ended June,sponsorships,etc,etc,etc ends what a mess. Englands games postponed already,Euro’s postponed already I agree lives are more important than football but if clubs think they have been hard don’t by and lost out on tens of millions they will take the legal route. The pandemic is nobody’s fault but the decision to void a season when there will be an alternative option of delaying until everyone is ready - it as that decision which will be subject to action. Sorting out contracts for the minority of players who have expiring contracts will bit a doddle by comparison.
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Post by William Wilson on Mar 17, 2020 16:22:58 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Mar 17, 2020 16:34:12 GMT
Let's get back to talking about football! On that note how did your meeting go Gassy? It didn't yet mate. We didn't meet face to face as I couldn't make it to Bristol on Monday. I didn't hear back anything on Monday and Tom emailed me last night to call me at 10:30am this morning, but didn'tt for whatever reason. I have to admit I'm not too happy about it, although these are pretty mad times at the moment so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Post by inee on Mar 17, 2020 19:51:10 GMT
Most of the "insurance companies are trying to get out of paying" BS is due to the policyholders not reading their policy documents properly and expecting cover for absolutely everything.
If its covered, its covered. If its not, its not. Quite simple really
Exactly. Genuine claims get paid, events that are not covered don’t get paid and insurers have a responsibility to all their other policyholders and premium payers to investigate claims that could be false or fraudulent. I used to deal with critical illness claims. Most were paid and did exactly what they said on the tin as applicants have answered all the required underwriting questions honestly. Occasionally you would get a claim made for cancer for example but during the assessment it becomes obvious the individual had symptoms or previous incidence in the past but deliberately didn’t disclose this before the cover started. You then get a lot of noise about ‘Insurance Company X’ didn’t pay out even though I have cancer and the public make a judgement based on that - at the same time wanting cheap premiums for their own policies! Not sure how this has turned into an insurance company thread so and I’ve not helped that so will try and finish up now! Please can we have football back 🙏 Nah theres a virus
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2020 20:09:39 GMT
Let's get back to talking about football! On that note how did your meeting go Gassy? It didn't yet mate. We didn't meet face to face as I couldn't make it to Bristol on Monday. I didn't hear back anything on Monday and Tom emailed me last night to call me at 10:30am this morning, but didn'tt for whatever reason. I have to admit I'm not too happy about it, although these are pretty mad times at the moment so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Not sure what to make of this statement, it sounds like the entire stadium, including the club superstore, is being mothballed until further notice: I still can't believe the club is selling s/t's when they've no idea when next season will.
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Post by inee on Mar 17, 2020 20:14:11 GMT
Interesting but on a personal level i disagree with her players will still be at risk, even if playing behind closed doors especially with the amount of flob all over the pitch, Another way of looking at it is just say 3 or 4 players from a club go down with it a weaker team would be fielded with the possible consequence of skewed results, i read something earlier about promoting those in the top spots, no relegation then bringing the numbers of teams back to the correct levels over a season or two
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Post by Gassy on Mar 17, 2020 21:17:46 GMT
It didn't yet mate. We didn't meet face to face as I couldn't make it to Bristol on Monday. I didn't hear back anything on Monday and Tom emailed me last night to call me at 10:30am this morning, but didn'tt for whatever reason. I have to admit I'm not too happy about it, although these are pretty mad times at the moment so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Not sure what to make of this statement, it sounds like the entire stadium, including the club superstore, is being mothballed until further notice: I still can't believe the club is selling s/t's when they've no idea when next season will. He has since emailed me to apologize
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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 17, 2020 21:18:14 GMT
UEFA want leagues finished by the end of June (which is when some players contracts expire).
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 17, 2020 21:22:16 GMT
Interesting but on a personal level i disagree with her players will still be at risk, even if playing behind closed doors especially with the amount of flob all over the pitch, Another way of looking at it is just say 3 or 4 players from a club go down with it a weaker team would be fielded with the possible consequence of skewed results, i read something earlier about promoting those in the top spots, no relegation then bringing the numbers of teams back to the correct levels over a season or two 😂flob,I haven’t heard that for a while
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2020 21:23:39 GMT
UEFA want leagues finished by the end of June (which is when some players contracts expire). Unless we're going to do it by tossing a coin to decide results of games then they can go on wanting. It will be a minimum of 6 months before football restarts in England, and probably most of Europe.
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 17, 2020 21:29:50 GMT
Not sure what to make of this statement, it sounds like the entire stadium, including the club superstore, is being mothballed until further notice: I still can't believe the club is selling s/t's when they've no idea when next season will. He has since emailed me to apologize Gassy please could you ask him what the score is with the new season tickets, if it is going to make a difference will renew asap but with some confusion about when this will start would like some clarity?
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Post by Gassy on Mar 17, 2020 21:46:49 GMT
He has since emailed me to apologize Gassy please could you ask him what the score is with the new season tickets, if it is going to make a difference will renew asap but with some confusion about when this will start would like some clarity? I’ve been asked not to say anything but more info coming tomorrow mate. What I can say is that season ticket sales are the best way to support the club right now
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 17, 2020 22:29:11 GMT
Gassy please could you ask him what the score is with the new season tickets, if it is going to make a difference will renew asap but with some confusion about when this will start would like some clarity? I’ve been asked not to say anything but more info coming tomorrow mate. What I can say is that season ticket sales are the best way to support the club right now Ok thanks mate think this will be a nightmare virus for us as a club, not on a great financial footing, almost inevitable that JCH goes now which will be sad.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Mar 18, 2020 1:02:30 GMT
I’ve been asked not to say anything but more info coming tomorrow mate. What I can say is that season ticket sales are the best way to support the club right now Ok thanks mate think this will be a nightmare virus for us as a club, not on a great financial footing, almost inevitable that JCH goes now which will be sad. We will just have to wait and see how the virus plays out. What state the club will be in at that time no one can say. Tbh l am not sure there will be any competitive professional football played during the next 12 to 18 months. Certainly cannot see the current season being completed. Next season is also unlikely. Utg
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 18, 2020 7:49:29 GMT
Ok thanks mate think this will be a nightmare virus for us as a club, not on a great financial footing, almost inevitable that JCH goes now which will be sad. We will just have to wait and see how the virus plays out. What state the club will be in at that time no one can say. Tbh l am not sure there will be any competitive professional football played during the next 12 to 18 months. Certainly cannot see the current season being completed. Next season is also unlikely. Utg Good to see your as positive as ever! China's football league is starting back up next month, there's no real reason Europe will be any slower at getting CV under control. Unless it's somehow become more widespread within European countries. Not really sure where you think JCH will be going, as I doubt any surviving clubs will be splashing out on transfer fees when football ever starts up again.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 18, 2020 9:09:48 GMT
Gassy please could you ask him what the score is with the new season tickets, if it is going to make a difference will renew asap but with some confusion about when this will start would like some clarity? I’ve been asked not to say anything but more info coming tomorrow mate. What I can say is that season ticket sales are the best way to support the club right now That and I've just ordered some merch off the website. Every little helps, plus I'd been meaning to get this year's home shirt anyway!
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Post by Jomo on Mar 18, 2020 9:11:47 GMT
We will just have to wait and see how the virus plays out. What state the club will be in at that time no one can say. Tbh l am not sure there will be any competitive professional football played during the next 12 to 18 months. Certainly cannot see the current season being completed. Next season is also unlikely. Utg Good to see your as positive as ever! China's football league is starting back up next month, there's no real reason Europe will be any slower at getting CV under control. Unless it's somehow become more widespread within European countries. Not really sure where you think JCH will be going, as I doubt any surviving clubs will be splashing out on transfer fees when football ever starts up again. What happens in China from now on will give the rest of the world a good idea of what to do next. If China experiences another sharp surge in cases after businesses and public events are re-opened, then I'd have thought that the lockdown will be reinforced.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 18, 2020 9:47:30 GMT
Good to see your as positive as ever! China's football league is starting back up next month, there's no real reason Europe will be any slower at getting CV under control. Unless it's somehow become more widespread within European countries. Not really sure where you think JCH will be going, as I doubt any surviving clubs will be splashing out on transfer fees when football ever starts up again. What happens in China from now on will give the rest of the world a good idea of what to do next. If China experiences another sharp surge in cases after businesses and public events are re-opened, then I'd have thought that the lockdown will be reinforced. IF that does occur we may as well stop worrying about football as large crowd gatherings will be banned until a drug is found to control it.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 18, 2020 10:57:44 GMT
Not even a bald comparison. You have much more choice of insurance and cover whereas big pharma can hold a new drugs license for many years, before generous are even allowed. If a pharmaceutical company find a vaccine,do you think they will give it away, due to feelings of being altruistic ? Insurance, you have choice and many cut corners as these things will, most likely not happen to them. Many years? A patent lasts 20 years, just like any other patent of any other industry. A pharma company files for that patent as soon as the molecule is discovered, so they then have 20 years in hope that it develops into something useful. R&D take about 12-13 years roughly so they only have 7 years to sell the product, in which the average spend on a drug is $ 2 billion. So yeah, considering the spend I wouldn't expect a pharma company to share the profits until they're forced to. It's the money from that that is used to fund other novel treatments. Big pharma aren't innocent in the slightest, but they're just as bad as insurance, banks and stock markets. At least in pharmaceuticals most of the workers in the industry want to help people, in insurance they're there to screw people. The drug used on me costs 10K per one gramme infusion. I call that robbery. A generic has been made and the cost of that is less than £300 so you can probably understand why I get angry about it. People die because they can’t get the drug. The generic is not allowed due to the patent. How can anyone justify 10K when you have the same at £300
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