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Post by axegas on Apr 3, 2020 13:07:03 GMT
Is anyone else just not that bothered about all of this? A man who was useless at his job, has now resigned. The supporters club has been shown to be incompetent and Hamer to be a loose lipped negative influence, what's new?
Yes, it now means the fans have no representative on the board, but it's not like we were able to glean insights from the representation we had anyway. I'm sorry but there are lot more important things to care/worry about now for me.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 3, 2020 13:11:38 GMT
Is anyone else just not that bothered about all of this? A man who was useless at his job, has now resigned. The supporters club has been shown to be incompetent and Hamer to be a loose lipped negative influence, what's new? I'm sorry but there are lot more important things to care/worry about now. it's a distraction from the outside world though isn't it
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Post by axegas on Apr 3, 2020 13:17:23 GMT
Is anyone else just not that bothered about all of this? A man who was useless at his job, has now resigned. The supporters club has been shown to be incompetent and Hamer to be a loose lipped negative influence, what's new? I'm sorry but there are lot more important things to care/worry about now. it's a distraction from the outside world though isn't it Bit of a depressing one! Oh yes let’s switch off from the news by reminding myself how shoddily run the football club and supporters club I support are. I take your point though.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 3, 2020 13:29:03 GMT
Embarrassing all round.
Wael and Starnes don't cover themselves in glory with the running of the club that's for sure. But Masters and Hamer, well they really seem to take the biscuit with their embarrassing conduct in all this.
In the end though, who look like the real fools? Unfortunately, it is the entire club. We are a total laughing stock. Why the * does this have to be the case at our club? We're the oldest professional club in a large and predominantly thriving city, and yet we somehow manage to year on year make ourselves out to look like total and utter amateurs.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 13:33:11 GMT
Embarrassing all round. Wael and Starnes don't cover themselves in glory with the running of the club that's for sure. But Masters and Hamer, well they really seem to take the biscuit with their embarrassing conduct in all this. In the end though, who look like the real fools? Unfortunately, it is the entire club. We are a total laughing stock. Why the * does this have to be the case at our club? We're the oldest professional club in a large and predominantly thriving city, and yet we somehow manage to year on year make ourselves out to look like total and utter amateurs. You are correct. The problem is, the club has been run poorly but the conduct, competence and credibility of those offering any kind of alternative or governance is much much worse than anything WAQ has done wrong and thats their real crime.
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Post by gregsy on Apr 3, 2020 13:36:21 GMT
Embarrassing all round. Wael and Starnes don't cover themselves in glory with the running of the club that's for sure. But Masters and Hamer, well they really seem to take the biscuit with their embarrassing conduct in all this. In the end though, who look like the real fools? Unfortunately, it is the entire club. We are a total laughing stock. Why the * does this have to be the case at our club? We're the oldest professional club in a large and predominantly thriving city, and yet we somehow manage to year on year make ourselves out to look like total and utter amateurs. Sums it up well.... This has been building and building for months, surely there could have been a solution to avoid this impending shitstorm given that we are run by professionals who care about the club apparently..... No.... Let's have the shitstorm....
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Post by fanatical on Apr 3, 2020 13:44:45 GMT
Surely it's just a paper loss i.e. appearing on the accounts but not being taken by the owners? I asked Knowall to answer that question earlier this week but as ever he ignored the question, perhaps one of the ITK'ers could answer that question? If we are talking about the interest payable, than it is a liability on the balance sheet. No money will have been taken. It's accruing and will either be paid or written of if and when the club is sold, or if the current owners decided to write it off. Not strictly true, because the accounts are only up to June 2019, and we do not know what has happened financially since that date, ie what has been paid in, what has been paid out, to whom and why? but also what extra debits are due and overdue. 'Interest payable' might well by now be 'Interest paid', although like you I doubt it.
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Post by althepirate on Apr 3, 2020 13:45:34 GMT
So ..as we are supposed to have two reps on the board and assuming they won't lose all their assets by doing so, is their anyone of sufficient quality in the SC to apply?
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Post by peterparker on Apr 3, 2020 13:47:36 GMT
So ..as we are supposed to have two reps on the board and assuming they won't lose all their assets by doing so, is their anyone of sufficient quality in the SC to apply? The SC don't want anyone on this board now though.
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Post by gregsy on Apr 3, 2020 13:50:08 GMT
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 13:57:16 GMT
Let's be honest GI. You are one of either of the following: 1) Another of KMs/SHs little cronies. Just helping them out on their dirty little campaign to discredit the board 2) A fool who has mistakenly been taken in by their BS Either way, it's probably worth backing off a bit now. You're looking like a complete fool. The reverse could be said about quite a few on here I think:-
1) Another of WAQs/MSs little cronies. Just helping them out on their dirty little campaign to discredit the SC 2) A fool who has mistakenly been taken in by their BS
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Post by althepirate on Apr 3, 2020 14:00:58 GMT
So ..as we are supposed to have two reps on the board and assuming they won't lose all their assets by doing so, is their anyone of sufficient quality in the SC to apply? The SC don't want anyone on this board now though. Then they are not doing their job and should be dismantled don't you think Peter?
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Post by althepirate on Apr 3, 2020 14:02:43 GMT
Let's be honest GI. You are one of either of the following: 1) Another of KMs/SHs little cronies. Just helping them out on their dirty little campaign to discredit the board 2) A fool who has mistakenly been taken in by their BS Either way, it's probably worth backing off a bit now. You're looking like a complete fool. The reverse could be said about quite a few on here I think:-
1) Another of WAQs/MSs little cronies. Just helping them out on their dirty little campaign to discredit the SC 2) A fool who has mistakenly been taken in by their BS
I'm sure that could be said about any argument though.
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Post by aghast on Apr 3, 2020 14:07:36 GMT
Astonishing. KM exposed. SH exposed. A number of us already heard bits and pieces but I think this confirms the disgusting and dirty games they've been playing to try and discredit the Board. Good riddance to KM. You sir are an absolute disgrace!! Do us all a favour and stop coming to Mem. You don't care about the club, you've only ever cared about your own agenda. I must be missing something in that Twitter thread. Two senior figures were discussing the club and their opinions on finances, the owners, and players. It wasn't very positive. OK. They were opinions. Someone else heard the call. Perhaps they shouldn't have? Perhaps KM felt they should have? It's not exactly treason.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 14:24:19 GMT
Astonishing. KM exposed. SH exposed. A number of us already heard bits and pieces but I think this confirms the disgusting and dirty games they've been playing to try and discredit the Board. Good riddance to KM. You sir are an absolute disgrace!! Do us all a favour and stop coming to Mem. You don't care about the club, you've only ever cared about your own agenda. I must be missing something in that Twitter thread. Two senior figures were discussing the club and their opinions on finances, the owners, and players. It wasn't very positive. OK. They were opinions. Someone else heard the call. Perhaps they shouldn't have? Perhaps KM felt they should have? It's not exactly treason. WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 14:27:43 GMT
I must be missing something in that Twitter thread. Two senior figures were discussing the club and their opinions on finances, the owners, and players. It wasn't very positive. OK. They were opinions. Someone else heard the call. Perhaps they shouldn't have? Perhaps KM felt they should have? It's not exactly treason. WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker? one of the main people behind the gasheads for food banks campaign so he deserves a little more respect than someone ‘hiding behind a moniker’
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 3, 2020 14:29:43 GMT
I must be missing something in that Twitter thread. Two senior figures were discussing the club and their opinions on finances, the owners, and players. It wasn't very positive. OK. They were opinions. Someone else heard the call. Perhaps they shouldn't have? Perhaps KM felt they should have? It's not exactly treason. WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker? Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 14:36:10 GMT
WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker? Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well. Is that right? Well your last sentence equally applies to the SC and the PC and plenty of posters on here who absolutely can’t abide our current owners because of what they believe they are doing to the FC they love. So it’s alright to stay anonymous as long as you agree with them is it?
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 3, 2020 14:39:51 GMT
Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well. Is that right? Well your last sentence equally applies to the SC and the PC and plenty of posters on here who absolutely can’t abide our current owners because of what they believe they are doing to the FC they love. So it’s alright to stay anonymous as long as you agree with them is it? Looks like I've wandered into a complete bin fire here with everyone on a side. I won't speak for him so up to you to decide if he has a dastardly agenda or is the reincarnation of Nick Higgs or whatever. Same goes for myself. Not taking a side as everyone seems to have made themselves look a right tit.
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Post by aghast on Apr 3, 2020 14:41:34 GMT
So if KM had said to SH "Can't talk now Steve. I have someone connected to the club in the car with me", that would have been more honourable behaviour than just speaking freely?
Can't see what this is all about. We don't even know why KM was excluded from the boardroom, and without that information, how can we judge his actions? Yet judged as a Judas he is.
He doesn't come across, to me anyway, as much use as a fans' director, but that isn't in itself a crime.
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