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Post by Feeling The Blues on Apr 3, 2020 14:45:46 GMT
WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker? one of the main people behind the gasheads for food banks campaign so he deserves a little more respect than someone ‘hiding behind a moniker’ Let's not name people on here unless they want to be named, thanks. -AF
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 3, 2020 14:48:42 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what is going on but what I do know is that I am sick to be back teeth of both sides dragging the club Ive supported all my life into this complete shitfest. I don't care who said what to whom & have zero interest in all the ITK bullshit from both sides on here, I just want a half decently (about as much as I can hope for at the moment) run club to watch when this Covid-19 stuff is finally all over.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 14:50:16 GMT
one of the main people behind the gasheads for food banks campaign so he deserves a little more respect than someone ‘hiding behind a moniker’ ... You hide behind a moniker on this very site. Outing people is not right.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 14:51:42 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what is going on but what I do know is that I am sick to be back teeth of both sides dragging the club Ive supported all my life into this complete shitfest. I don't care who said what to whom & have zero interest in all the ITK bullshit from both sides on here, I just want a half decently (about as much as I can hope for at the moment) run club to watch when this Covid-19 stuff is finally all over. The problem as I see it is that there is a lot of wrong doing on both sides and as a result they are going to ruin our club!
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 3, 2020 14:53:19 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what is going on but what I do know is that I am sick to be back teeth of both sides dragging the club Ive supported all my life into this complete shitfest. I don't care who said what to whom & have zero interest in all the ITK bullshit from both sides on here, I just want a half decently (about as much as I can hope for at the moment) run club to watch when this Covid-19 stuff is finally all over. The problem as I see it is that there is a lot of wrong doing on both sides and as a result they are going to ruin our club! That's my big fear, seems to me they are well on the way already
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Post by althepirate on Apr 3, 2020 14:54:45 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what is going on but what I do know is that I am sick to be back teeth of both sides dragging the club Ive supported all my life into this complete shitfest. I don't care who said what to whom & have zero interest in all the ITK bullshit from both sides on here, I just want a half decently (about as much as I can hope for at the moment) run club to watch when this Covid-19 stuff is finally all over. Fray dew wonege tha yer me luvver we be Roovers
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 3, 2020 14:55:03 GMT
Let's not name people on here unless they want to be named, thanks.
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Post by RD on Apr 3, 2020 15:38:20 GMT
I thought it was already pretty common knowledge that SH and KM were sacked for the damaging rumours they were spreading. Didn't one of them even send a poster on here a text asking him to stir the pot?
No smoke without fire.
It's clear the two of them have been trying to de-stabalise WAQ/the board for some time now and karma finally caught up with them both.
The SCs behaviour has been repugnant frankly. I am ashamed that they carry the name "supporters club".
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Post by gasincider on Apr 3, 2020 15:41:06 GMT
WHO is the person who heard the call hiding behind the Avin_Oops moniker? Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well. Maybe he doesn't want that, and though I know who he is I won't name him. Yet people demand to know my sources even though I don't name them. For credibility they say. So can we then say this isn't credible because he doesn't want to be named? Same rule for everyone methinks.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 15:48:00 GMT
Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well. Maybe he doesn't want that, and though I know who he is I won't name him. Yet people demand to know my sources even though I don't name them. For credibility they say. So can we then say this isn't credible because he doesn't want to be named? Same rule for everyone methinks. Cant argue with that
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Apr 3, 2020 15:52:45 GMT
Before anyone jumps in on this and reveals him I can say he will absolutely NOT want that. Nothing to hide but he's a private person and I doubt he gave up that information lightly. I know him and he has no agenda bar wanting the gas to do well. Maybe he doesn't want that, and though I know who he is I won't name him. Yet people demand to know my sources even though I don't name them. For credibility they say. So can we then say this isn't credible because he doesn't want to be named? Same rule for everyone methinks. You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 16:30:16 GMT
Let's not name people on here unless they want to be named, thanks. Yes, Don't tell em Pike Les (Oh....)
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Post by gasincider on Apr 3, 2020 18:05:49 GMT
You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this? Ha ha ha. I've no credibility. I don't give a toss about credibility. If you don't like what I post ignore it. Meanwhile back in the real world,nothing I say can damage the club. What our owners are doing can destroy it. Think: New Stadium Training ground £25m debt No application made to either Bristol CC or South Gloucester Council by the football club for help in identifying a site to hopefully get permission to build a stadium. Bristol Live and GT several attempts to get Wael on line for an interview. The absolute nonsense spouted by Wael when we were at Blackpool which Put up the value of the Fruit Market site Solution: Get rid of SH and KM. As for the last question, what do they need to be innocent of? Drawing attention to the way the club is run? Yes they are guilty. They should have raised it a long time ago. If I have a complaint about the running of the S/c its that they haven't been as forthright as I would have been. Perhaps I should apply for the job.
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Post by spiess1 on Apr 3, 2020 18:11:08 GMT
You seem far too important.
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Post by fanatical on Apr 3, 2020 20:28:11 GMT
Maybe he doesn't want that, and though I know who he is I won't name him. Yet people demand to know my sources even though I don't name them. For credibility they say. So can we then say this isn't credible because he doesn't want to be named? Same rule for everyone methinks. You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this? Nobody knows because the Football Club executives who issued the ban wont say why they did so. And you accuse others of not being open? - and you defend those who started all this! Perhaps Martyn Starnes will explain as he appears to be the only one who knows - even gashead1981 knows everything apparently but not this.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2020 20:44:49 GMT
You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this? Nobody knows because the Football Club executives who issued the ban wont say why they did so. And you accuse others of not being open? - and you defend those who started all this! Perhaps Martyn Starnes will explain as he appears to be the only one who knows - even gashead1981 knows everything apparently but not this. So is the allegations KM was working on the FM site behind Wael's back not true? Assuming there is some truth in that rumour is it hardly surprising KM was asked to step down as a Rovers Director, regardless as to whether he was given a reason. Although given it's an unpaid role does it really matter, he's hardly losing financially by having to step down?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2020 20:46:41 GMT
You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this? Ha ha ha. I've no credibility. I don't give a toss about credibility. If you don't like what I post ignore it. Meanwhile back in the real world,nothing I say can damage the club. What our owners are doing can destroy it. Think: New Stadium Training ground £25m debt No application made to either Bristol CC or South Gloucester Council by the football club for help in identifying a site to hopefully get permission to build a stadium. Bristol Live and GT several attempts to get Wael on line for an interview. The absolute nonsense spouted by Wael when we were at Blackpool which Put up the value of the Fruit Market site Solution: Get rid of SH and KM. As for the last question, what do they need to be innocent of? Drawing attention to the way the club is run? Yes they are guilty. They should have raised it a long time ago. If I have a complaint about the running of the S/c its that they haven't been as forthright as I would have been. Perhaps I should apply for the job. So what's Plan B if Wael quits, perhaps if the SC told us that then they may get some support?
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Apr 3, 2020 22:14:11 GMT
You have no credibility, you never back up any of your claims and your claims are more damaging than helpful in uniting a fan base. You spout so much but say very little. Do you think ( you must do but won’t fess up) the supporters club are innocent in ALL this? Ha ha ha. I've no credibility. I don't give a toss about credibility. If you don't like what I post ignore it. Meanwhile back in the real world,nothing I say can damage the club. What our owners are doing can destroy it. Think: New Stadium Training ground £25m debt No application made to either Bristol CC or South Gloucester Council by the football club for help in identifying a site to hopefully get permission to build a stadium. Bristol Live and GT several attempts to get Wael on line for an interview. The absolute nonsense spouted by Wael when we were at Blackpool which Put up the value of the Fruit Market site Solution: Get rid of SH and KM. As for the last question, what do they need to be innocent of? Drawing attention to the way the club is run? Yes they are guilty. They should have raised it a long time ago. If I have a complaint about the running of the S/c its that they haven't been as forthright as I would have been. Perhaps I should apply for the job. If you have something to say then say it. Stop being a pleb. A wum, a self indulgent twat about things and Chuffing speak up in proper Chuffing English. You are as big a problem as the problem. You want us to go against the owners as much as your twisted mates. You start the protest as you know what it is all about. ‘Engage, ignite,’ Supportters club ain’t supporting. Why isn’t every supporter being told f**k all from the supporters club representative since year ...... Is that acceptable gas inside your own asset? Start the rovers revolution. Spill it,
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 4, 2020 22:09:55 GMT
I think everyone is missing the point. Now that we have lost KM from the board there are now no Rovers fans on the board. What we have left is people who have increased the debt from £7m to £25 m in four years. KM has been a lifetime fan.It means that basically we have no chance of clearing the debt. In other words it can only go on increasing. That means there will only be one ending. Remember, Ken has never sought or received payment from the club. He was the only unpaid director. Some have said he was in it for what he could get. Like what? He drove to every away game at his own expense to represent the club, and on many occasions, this season, he was the only one there. He also bought several season tickets to cover the cost of his seat in the directors box. So what was he in it for? A free meal? How many of you would drive 200 miles each way dressed up in your Rovers finest, to get a free meal. What else did he get out of it? Nothing. He even spent £10 k of his own money to resurrect the Community Trust which was about to fail. He's never wanted it back. So what was he doing it for? BECAUSE ITS HIS CLUB AND HE LOVES IT. Never mind KM who despite asking what he had done wrong to lose his place has not had the courtesy of a response, The fans on here who concentrate on the KM issue are deliberately missing the only factor that matters. We are headed for bankruptcy. We cannot get enough people into our ground to reduce the debts, but of course Wael could convert them to shares. Will he? Not likely as he can't afford to.so there we have it. The two new directors whose identities are known to me received an email from Wael to confirm their positions, and they were cancelled the following day, what a way to run a club. By the way, I have seen a copy of the email. One dodgy area I can think of, is the matter of the share scheme. For almost two years money has been handed over to the club, (well over £100k)and despite many requests for share certificates, none have been forthcoming. As in Jims message this morning, even the share register at companies house has not been upgraded to evidence the additional shares. I can think of a couple of potential charges that could be laid in this respect. At last years AGM this was the first matter raised. Taylor Wessing who acted as co secretary (Mike Turner)were responsible for this aspect. And they were paid for the privilege.Yet here we are, another year on and nothing has happened. You lot rant on about Ken and SH, and wait for another staged message from Bristol Live which as usual will be vetted by MS. Meanwhile this club that we've all loved for so long is heading into Bankruptcy. Sometimes, our fans get the owners they deserve. I can't think of any other club where the fans would be so apathetic about what is going on around them. He wasn’t the only unpaid director until the ALQs came in. And even then he hasn’t got onto the board through his own money or ability but through a 2 bit Jurassic organisation and even then he acted like he owned the shop most of the time. So let’s keep it real. Most of us drive to away games to watch the gas, a pay for the privilege of getting into the away ground. What’s your point? Just regarding the £10k that Masters put in. I can’t find any such donation. I can find a £5k donation in 2006 with a grant matching a similar figure but the grant hasn’t come from Ken. So where does the 10k figure come from?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 22:39:25 GMT
I think everyone is missing the point. Now that we have lost KM from the board there are now no Rovers fans on the board. What we have left is people who have increased the debt from £7m to £25 m in four years. KM has been a lifetime fan.It means that basically we have no chance of clearing the debt. In other words it can only go on increasing. That means there will only be one ending. Remember, Ken has never sought or received payment from the club. He was the only unpaid director. Some have said he was in it for what he could get. Like what? He drove to every away game at his own expense to represent the club, and on many occasions, this season, he was the only one there. He also bought several season tickets to cover the cost of his seat in the directors box. So what was he in it for? A free meal? How many of you would drive 200 miles each way dressed up in your Rovers finest, to get a free meal. What else did he get out of it? Nothing. He even spent £10 k of his own money to resurrect the Community Trust which was about to fail. He's never wanted it back. So what was he doing it for? BECAUSE ITS HIS CLUB AND HE LOVES IT. Never mind KM who despite asking what he had done wrong to lose his place has not had the courtesy of a response, The fans on here who concentrate on the KM issue are deliberately missing the only factor that matters. We are headed for bankruptcy. We cannot get enough people into our ground to reduce the debts, but of course Wael could convert them to shares. Will he? Not likely as he can't afford to.so there we have it. The two new directors whose identities are known to me received an email from Wael to confirm their positions, and they were cancelled the following day, what a way to run a club. By the way, I have seen a copy of the email. One dodgy area I can think of, is the matter of the share scheme. For almost two years money has been handed over to the club, (well over £100k)and despite many requests for share certificates, none have been forthcoming. As in Jims message this morning, even the share register at companies house has not been upgraded to evidence the additional shares. I can think of a couple of potential charges that could be laid in this respect. At last years AGM this was the first matter raised. Taylor Wessing who acted as co secretary (Mike Turner)were responsible for this aspect. And they were paid for the privilege.Yet here we are, another year on and nothing has happened. You lot rant on about Ken and SH, and wait for another staged message from Bristol Live which as usual will be vetted by MS. Meanwhile this club that we've all loved for so long is heading into Bankruptcy. Sometimes, our fans get the owners they deserve. I can't think of any other club where the fans would be so apathetic about what is going on around them. He wasn’t the only unpaid director until the ALQs came in. And even then he hasn’t got onto the board through his own money or ability but through a 2 bit Jurassic organisation and even then he acted like he owned the shop most of the time. So let’s keep it real. Most of us drive to away games to watch the gas, a pay for the privilege of getting into the away ground. What’s your point? Just regarding the £10k that Masters put in. I can’t find any such donation. I can find a £5k donation in 2006 with a grant matching a similar figure but the grant hasn’t come from Ken. So where does the 10k figure come from? Good spot. Did the £5k come from Ken’s back pocket or the company of which he was a director along with several other directors? A very generous donation but a company linked to education would have good cause to invest in an educational scheme.
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