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Post by Gassy on Apr 12, 2021 13:26:43 GMT
I don't read, nor am I able to read, every single post on the forum. Clearly you've known about this post very well and its really bothered you for a long time, so please do report it or point it out to me in more detail and I'll take a look. I'm playing it down as much as you've played down women's protests and maternity. Take a pick how you choose to view that statement. It seems to me that your views are being challenged more than you'd like or expect, and now you're throwing insults. I guess the word irony is still lost on you. You've seen very well the posts in question. You agree with the perpetrator that much is perfectly clear, as just like him you're excusing them. It's pathetic. It also highlights my point about the rhetoric of bringing racism into everything, as that thread included no racism whatsoever, however it still didn't stop the perpetrator making jibes about other posters being racists. I haven't thrown any insults around, perhaps you've mistaken me for the person who made those vile, disgusting accusations. Have I? Please point it out to me then. Either you have such an issue with it that you report it or point me out to it, or you drop the point - because you're not adding anything. You expect something done and make accusations, yet just expect me to go out of my way and find a post in a thread somewhere, because you've said so. So again, either report it or tell me exactly where it is - or drop it. Take a pick. And yes, you have thrown about insults. You've called me disgusting. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 12, 2021 15:30:36 GMT
Has Gastafari reported my posts yet ? You know those posts he didn’t see but he had a little whisper in his lugholes from “other posters” about.
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Post by oldie on Apr 12, 2021 19:24:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 20:15:53 GMT
Wtf. Saw that riots had kicked off last night but only just seeing the story. Bizzare, what is it with these cops? |
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Post by baggins on Apr 13, 2021 5:11:23 GMT
Wtf. Saw that riots had kicked off last night but only just seeing the story. Bizzare, what is it with these cops? Just seen the US Army Officer being pulled over video. What an awful place. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 13, 2021 6:02:15 GMT
Wtf. Saw that riots had kicked off last night but only just seeing the story. Bizzare, what is it with these cops? Just seen the US Army Officer being pulled over video. What an awful place. Just seen the video. Absolutely disgusting policing Apparently be has been fired now |
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Post by oldie on Apr 13, 2021 6:31:36 GMT
Just seen the US Army Officer being pulled over video. What an awful place. Just seen the video. Absolutely disgusting policing Apparently be has been fired now There has to be fundamental questions about the recruitment and training of police in the States. I thinking this goes way beyond racism. I think its a basic mindset of how to police. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 13, 2021 6:44:08 GMT
Just seen the video. Absolutely disgusting policing Apparently be has been fired now There has to be fundamental questions about the recruitment and training of police in the States. I thinking this goes way beyond racism. I think its a basic mindset of how to police. So many interconnected problems. Their gun culture certainly doesnt help. 'Everyone ' has to have a gun because you have to defend yourself from someone else that might. (A bit simplistic i know) Bad people with guns, cops or criminals wield them as things of power Good people get dragged in to sh**. Everyone is seen as a threat. Even a calm, sensible, active US soldier in uniform |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 13, 2021 12:29:12 GMT
Just seen the video. Absolutely disgusting policing Apparently be has been fired now There has to be fundamental questions about the recruitment and training of police in the States. I thinking this goes way beyond racism. I think its a basic mindset of how to police. Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 13, 2021 13:23:06 GMT
There has to be fundamental questions about the recruitment and training of police in the States. I thinking this goes way beyond racism. I think its a basic mindset of how to police. Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 13:29:23 GMT
There has to be fundamental questions about the recruitment and training of police in the States. I thinking this goes way beyond racism. I think its a basic mindset of how to police. Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. Your views on it are too cynical for most I think. The only solution conservatism ever offers is MORE conservatism. |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 13, 2021 13:39:07 GMT
Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. Yes I do, Oldie. When I replied to the post about the Cop in Virginia, all I asked was it to do with the Victims race or just another over zealous Cop. As ever, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, and started arguing for no reason. No different to what you've written. In regards to your other point, I think it's you that doesn't want to have the discussion, again all i've stated is that I'm speaking honestly from my perspective of coming from that community in question. It's you and others that dont want to listen to it and complain about stereotypes. I have never denied racism exists. Ever. All I've said is that I don't believe racism has much to do with how different demographics fare whether it be Education, Employment or whatever. Yet again, you just don't want to hear it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 13:46:37 GMT
Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. There appears to be no middle ground. Gasta will stick to his staunch traditionalist values on the matter, and that prohibits any movement towards a progressive outlook. Same goes the other way obviously. Tic tac toe. |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 13, 2021 13:49:00 GMT
Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. The same also applied when I said in my opinion that The Daily Mail and The Guardian both spout absolute garbage, just both different sides of the spectrum. One being Britains most Right Wing and the other Britains most Left Wing 'Newspaper'. Again, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, complaining that it was 'biased'. When in fact it was being completely balanced. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2021 14:08:41 GMT
Yet, I get shouted down for saying the same thing. This place. Honestly. Your views on it are too cynical for most I think. The only solution conservatism ever offers is MORE conservatism. I have to confess to seeing the irony in this, you could also exchange conservatism for socialism and it would still read right. |
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Post by Gassy on Apr 13, 2021 14:22:24 GMT
You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. The same also applied when I said in my opinion that The Daily Mail and The Guardian both spout absolute garbage, just both different sides of the spectrum. One being Britains most Right Wing and the other Britains most Left Wing 'Newspaper'. Again, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, complaining that it was 'biased'. When in fact it was being completely balanced. No, you did not make a comparison of right vs left wing. You said "If true. It's from the Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different." You made a comparison that they command the same respect of standard of reporting and truth telling - bringing it back to the Guardian being the most awarded paper in the UK. You mistake replying to you as 'jumping on it', because as we've seen - you cannot be challenged, nor admit that your opinion is not 100% correct all the time. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 13, 2021 14:27:52 GMT
You dont Gastafari But you do have an antagonistic style. I have tried to have a discussion with you, out of genuine interest given your perspective, on the causal factors behind educational outcomes, but you shouted at me and demanded to know about white Irish. I have already agreed with you that there other factors at play, but I dont exclude racism as a factor, on an equal level as elitist entitlement in white education differentials. But you wont engage, you just shout about the over use of racism. I did wonder, as I suspect our political leanings differ, you dont want to because you know where I am going to go with that discussion. Yes I do, Oldie. When I replied to the post about the Cop in Virginia, all I asked was it to do with the Victims race or just another over zealous Cop. As ever, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, and started arguing for no reason. No different to what you've written. In regards to your other point, I think it's you that doesn't want to have the discussion, again all i've stated is that I'm speaking honestly from my perspective of coming from that community in question. It's you and others that dont want to listen to it and complain about stereotypes. I have never denied racism exists. Ever. All I've said is that I don't believe racism has much to do with how different demographics fare whether it be Education, Employment or whatever. Yet again, you just don't want to hear it. Can you point out where the usual suspects jumped all over it and started arguing please ? Did anyone say the shooting was down to racism ? I may have missed it , so would be thankful if you could. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 14:28:34 GMT
Your views on it are too cynical for most I think. The only solution conservatism ever offers is MORE conservatism. I have to confess to seeing the irony in this, you could also exchange conservatism for socialism and it would still read right. Lol maybe my line was too simplistic. There is a huge difference between conservatism and socialism though, they are fundamentally opposed in visions. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 13, 2021 14:29:14 GMT
The same also applied when I said in my opinion that The Daily Mail and The Guardian both spout absolute garbage, just both different sides of the spectrum. One being Britains most Right Wing and the other Britains most Left Wing 'Newspaper'. Again, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, complaining that it was 'biased'. When in fact it was being completely balanced. No, you did not make a comparison of right vs left wing. You said "If true. It's from the Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different." You made a comparison that they command the same respect of standard of reporting and truth telling - bringing it back to the Guardian being the most awarded paper in the UK. You mistake replying to you as 'jumping on it', because as we've seen - you cannot be challenged, nor admit that your opinion is not 100% correct all the time. Trump will 100% win . Fact. 🤫 |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 13, 2021 14:30:33 GMT
The same also applied when I said in my opinion that The Daily Mail and The Guardian both spout absolute garbage, just both different sides of the spectrum. One being Britains most Right Wing and the other Britains most Left Wing 'Newspaper'. Again, the usual suspects jumped straight on it, complaining that it was 'biased'. When in fact it was being completely balanced. No, you did not make a comparison of right vs left wing. You said "If true. It's from the Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different." You made a comparison that they command the same respect of standard of reporting and truth telling - bringing it back to the Guardian being the most awarded paper in the UK. You mistake replying to you as 'jumping on it', because as we've seen - you cannot be challenged, nor admit that your opinion is not 100% correct all the time. I also said they were 'Both at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum of course. Right and Left' "It's no different to The Daily Mail. Both full of absolute garbage from both sides" "It's balanced, im saying that the Right Wing Daily Mail is mostly full of garbage, but so is the Left Wing Guardian" Also "So The Daily Mail is Britains most Right Wing Paper and The Guardian is Britains most Left Wing paper. Pretty much what I was saying isn't it? We can all debate on how Left or Right they are, imo they're as bad as eachother" C'mon Gassy. As ever you saw something that wasn't there and started arguing for no reason. |
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