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Post by inee on Aug 2, 2020 12:47:46 GMT
Why? For the love of G... For starters, I can't make head nor tail of what his/her position on the subject is? His that's me. I haven't ever nor will i ever hide my position on religion, I will say it again religion is just a wa v to control the feeble minded. Way back when, lets face it if you believe in god you might as well believe that a rhinoceros is just a fat old unicorn.
So again don't believe in all this god mumbo jumbo.
my other post i simply said did some terrorist called jesus exist, yes i believe he did, was he capable of miracles nope, was he the son of the imaginary man in the sky, nope imaginary friends don't exist and as I said (tongue in cheek) maybe he had a dog called messiah . Couldn't be much clearer really. As for the book you mentioned ,obviously commissioned by James 1, his names in the title, for the church of England ,so i assume he and some of his personal vicars decided what went in to remove the catholic bits etc.
You say prove god doesn't exist well take a look around you, is this the bit where i say prove he does,you then comeback with the freewill bollocks,or maybe not
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Post by baggins on Aug 2, 2020 13:04:10 GMT
Ok chaps, this isn't what this thread, or this forum, is about. Before it turns particularly nasty, let's just enjoy the nice day yes?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 13:07:09 GMT
Ok chaps, this isn't what this thread, or this forum, is about. Before it turns particularly nasty, let's just enjoy the nice day yes? Just someone looking to start an argument Baggins and it's not Inee.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 13:33:28 GMT
Ok chaps, this isn't what this thread, or this forum, is about. Before it turns particularly nasty, let's just enjoy the nice day yes? Just someone looking to start an argument Baggins and it's not Inee. Yes you appear to be, again. As it appears too difficult for you to understand I'll explain. What I was working towards was this. An assertion was made that there is no God. That's a positive statement and requires supporting evidence. My position would be that theists, mostly, propose creation, that requires a creator, therefore they have all of their work ahead of them to demonstrate the existence of a creator. Not even an attempt at starting any argument from me, which if you had stopped for a moment before wading in you may have been able to work out. Not sure you'll even get it yet, so I'll try to simplify still further. In a courtroom analogy, God is being charged with existing. I ask theists to please call the accused to the stand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 14:00:34 GMT
Just someone looking to start an argument Baggins and it's not Inee. Yes you appear to be, again. As it appears too difficult for you to understand I'll explain. What I was working towards was this. An assertion was made that there is no God. That's a positive statement and requires supporting evidence. My position would be that theists, mostly, propose creation, that requires a creator, therefore they have all of their work ahead of them to demonstrate the existence of a creator. Not even an attempt at starting any argument from me, which if you had stopped for a moment before wading in you may have been able to work out. Not sure you'll even get it yet, so I'll try to simplify still further. In a courtroom analogy, God is being charged with existing. I ask theists to please call their primary witness to the stand. Nobody is interested in your ridiculous proposition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 21:00:23 GMT
Yes you appear to be, again. As it appears too difficult for you to understand I'll explain. What I was working towards was this. An assertion was made that there is no God. That's a positive statement and requires supporting evidence. My position would be that theists, mostly, propose creation, that requires a creator, therefore they have all of their work ahead of them to demonstrate the existence of a creator. Not even an attempt at starting any argument from me, which if you had stopped for a moment before wading in you may have been able to work out. Not sure you'll even get it yet, so I'll try to simplify still further. In a courtroom analogy, God is being charged with existing. I ask theists to please call their primary witness to the stand. Nobody is interested in your ridiculous proposition. What a sour individual you are. Just because something doesn't interest you that means that nobody is interested in it. There are multiple forums, chat rooms, live phone-ins etc going on every day all around the world on this very subject. Plernty of people make a decent living off of the back of it, on one side Aron Ra springs to mind, in the opposite corner, William Lane Craig has a huge following. Anyway, the correct reply was; ''Oh, sorry, I misunderstood''. But as has been demonstrated multiple times, you are so pumped up with self aggrandisement and arrogance that you think that being wrong and/or apologising is beneath you.
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 3, 2020 5:41:34 GMT
Just someone looking to start an argument Baggins and it's not Inee. Yes you appear to be, again. As it appears too difficult for you to understand I'll explain. What I was working towards was this. An assertion was made that there is no God. That's a positive statement and requires supporting evidence. My position would be that theists, mostly, propose creation, that requires a creator, therefore they have all of their work ahead of them to demonstrate the existence of a creator. Not even an attempt at starting any argument from me, which if you had stopped for a moment before wading in you may have been able to work out. Not sure you'll even get it yet, so I'll try to simplify still further. In a courtroom analogy, God is being charged with existing. I ask theists to please call their primary witness to the stand. If this thread didn`t exist, it would be necessary to invent it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:15:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:50:46 GMT
Not really sure what the point is, the body count from far left politics in the last century runs in to hundreds of millions. The hard left have infiltrated our schools and universities and are poisoning the minds of children and young adults. Nobody is denying that BLM is driven by an extreme left wing ideology, how many deaths on the streets of America in the disorder that they've been whipping up since the Floyd murder?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 11:32:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:17:26 GMT
Glad some arrests have been made. No doubt Oldie will be along any minute to congratulate and thank our institutionally racist Police for dealing with this quickly and efficiently. This is a really strange one isn't it. Guy with no connection whatsoever to his attackers, minding his business, gets hit by a car and then they racially verbally abuse him. No doubt we'll find out more as the case develops. Either way, I wish him a speedy recovery from horrible injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:22:08 GMT
It will be interesting to see how this unfolds and what the motivation for the attack was. It’s being treated as a racist incident because of the language used towards the victim but why was he targeted? Was it a random, racially motivated attack or was it part of an existing feud in which racist language was used?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:38:23 GMT
It will be interesting to see how this unfolds and what the motivation for the attack was. It’s being treated as a racist incident because of the language used towards the victim but why was he targeted? Was it a random, racially motivated attack or was it part of an existing feud in which racist language was used? Is it an important detail though? It seems to be the be all and end all to some, to me going by the details reported it’s a senselessly horrific crime and the perpetrators need to be brought to justice. It would be equally as senseless if the victim was white. There should be no place on the streets for people who commit violence like this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:21:13 GMT
Jung said, in a completely irrelevant reference
" No doubt Oldie will be along any minute to congratulate and thank our institutionally racist Police for dealing with this quickly and efficiently."
Courtesy of Buffalo Springfield
"Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid You step out of line, the man come and take you away"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 16:56:57 GMT
Jung said, in a completely irrelevant reference " No doubt Oldie will be along any minute to congratulate and thank our institutionally racist Police for dealing with this quickly and efficiently." Courtesy of Buffalo Springfield "Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid You step out of line, the man come and take you away" It's you who claims that we have institutional racism here, not me, all I'm doing is pointing out that one of these organisations who you are very quick to criticise have acted swiftly here and made arrests. Just thought you may want to acknowledge that. Obviously not as it doesn't sit with your agenda of focusing on what divides rather than what unites. I like the view from here far better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:18:34 GMT
Jung said, in a completely irrelevant reference " No doubt Oldie will be along any minute to congratulate and thank our institutionally racist Police for dealing with this quickly and efficiently." Courtesy of Buffalo Springfield "Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid You step out of line, the man come and take you away" It's you who claims that we have institutional racism here, not me, all I'm doing is pointing out that one of these organisations who you are very quick to criticise have acted swiftly here and made arrests. Just thought you may want to acknowledge that. Obviously not as it doesn't sit with your agenda of focusing on what divides rather than what unites. I like the view from here far better. Extrapolate away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 15:02:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 16:05:38 GMT
I wonder if the poor lady who had a gun held to her stomach by Floyd during an armed robbery received help for any mental health issues she may have had as a consequence?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 16:32:37 GMT
I wonder if the poor lady who had a gun held to her stomach by Floyd during an armed robbery received help for any mental health issues she may have had as a consequence? True, you'd hope so, not sure if victims of crime are offered assistance like counseling or whatever.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Aug 6, 2020 16:49:26 GMT
I wonder if the poor lady who had a gun held to her stomach by Floyd during an armed robbery received help for any mental health issues she may have had as a consequence? I believe she was pregnant at the time.
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