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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 1:54:35 GMT
Transfer market quiet.
Bournemouth/watford appoint unknown managers,bristol city go for the cheapest option available.
Did we jump the gun and pay last seasons wages to our new boys?
Better players for much lower wages for those that wait i fear.
Gillingham wanted ehmer to stay but nobody else was keen.
Are we paying way over the odds in the new reality football world?
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Post by EastVanGas on Aug 16, 2020 2:31:25 GMT
Not sure how we could do this conversation justice without knowing how much we're paying these players vs. how much we were paying the players we released last year.
Impression I've got is that the players we signed were enticed by the security of a two/three year deal rather than us chucking around premium wages.
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Post by bodies on Aug 16, 2020 5:46:01 GMT
It is a very valid question, though. Certainly length of contract has probably become more important to players than actual salary. Who knows what scenarios clubs are planning for. Some may think they can cope with reduced attendances, others are fearful that any length of time could see them go to the wall.
A whole season either with no crowds or, indeed, no football at all will inevitably see hordes of clubs fold.
With the format of 3 games a week for the entire season any club seeking to be successful will need a big squad - yet this is being curbed by the EFL along with wages.
Anyone basing their club’s fortunes on having a decent 1st XI but not much depth will inevitably struggle.
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Post by casey12a on Aug 16, 2020 6:07:40 GMT
Leave it too late or jump the gun, we'll always find something to moan about on here.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 16, 2020 6:41:56 GMT
No we are fully prepared for once and professional, no chasing Clive Platt and james constable until the third month of the season.
B muff and 82 ers have new managers hence not much movement.
Mansfield will be like Birmingham under Barry Fry with 55 players 😂
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Aug 16, 2020 7:18:47 GMT
At the risk of sounding a little arrogant, what does it matter, for once we could afford to, if it meant we get the players we want.
The player im most excited about is Sam Nicholson
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 16, 2020 7:54:03 GMT
In a way, I think the opposite to the OP. We have been the most active team in this league before the imposition of the salary cap. Others have chosen to wait and see, but now any signings they make will be limiting in terms of their overall wage bill. I'm sure Martyn Starnes said that we will not be increasing our wage bill - he may have even said that we are reducing it. The important point for me is that we have brought in quality players that improve the team. Even Darragh MacAnthony said that we have made a number of impressive signings!
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Post by peterparker on Aug 16, 2020 8:16:14 GMT
Probably a mix of elements. Perhaps we are over paying in the sense that said players might take less if we were to sign them now, but perhaps we are paying less than we would have 12 months ago because said players have jumped at the chance of security.
Take Ehmer. Gillingham were holding out on what to offer him. We jumped in. What does. 28 year old bloke do in that situation?
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Post by althepirate on Aug 16, 2020 8:29:59 GMT
I don't know if we are paying high or bargain wages, but def longer contracts as others have said would be a major incentive for players to come to us in these uncertain times.
However imo the biggest plus is that for the first time ever we have got a squad together before we played our first friendly and that for me is a huge positive. I found it really frustrating when we used to leave signings to the last minute and DC was still trying to find his best team at Christmas. It used to seem like the first four months were friendlies not real fixtures. Hopefully Ben having signed them early will know what his best side is by day one, we will have gelled better on and off the field and when we start the season we can hit the ground running.
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Post by thegasareback on Aug 16, 2020 8:31:16 GMT
My question is that this season we will fall within the salary cap as new signings only carry £1,300 a week.
But what about next season when we have to carry their full wages...
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Post by peterparker on Aug 16, 2020 8:51:50 GMT
My question is that this season we will fall within the salary cap as new signings only carry £1,300 a week. But what about next season when we have to carry their full wages... Its 1300 for the duration of the contract |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 16, 2020 9:28:40 GMT
No we are fully prepared for once and professional, no chasing Clive Platt and james constable until the third month of the season. B muff and 82 ers have new managers hence not much movement. Mansfield will be like Birmingham under Barry Fry with 55 players 😂 Don’t know much about those south of the river but for AFCB why would they be trying to sign players? With the falling income, despite parachute payments and only so far shifting one player they don’t need to. They have a very good squad of players. Hard to know who will be sold and as the window goes into October I guess it’s best to see what will happen. This year for the Championship and PL clubs it’s been a very, very short close season. Too short to be able to start with ready made squads. I agree we are prepared this time unusually for us and it’s good we’re not repeating how we chased those players and still didn’t get them with no plan B. UTG! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2020 9:47:18 GMT
Transfer market quiet. Bournemouth/watford appoint unknown managers,bristol city go for the cheapest option available. Did we jump the gun and pay last seasons wages to our new boys? Better players for much lower wages for those that wait i fear. Gillingham wanted ehmer to stay but nobody else was keen.Are we paying way over the odds in the new reality football world? How does any poster know nobody else wanted Ehmer? As far as Gillingham would you prefer we us just to sign L2 cast offs like their latest signing from Mansfield? Who are these better players as I can't see many have been suggested on the forum, we've signed on of the best CB's in Ehmer and Westbrooke was part of Coventry's promotion team, Nicholson somebody fans would actually pay to watch, all we need is another striker and we could well be holding out to as that player wants to bigger contract. For once we seem to have had almost a perfect summer transfers wise, it's hard to believe a poster is questioning what we've done perhaps he's upset BG is actually having a good pre-season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 9:50:45 GMT
Things have been going too well obviously as the usual suspects are now linking fact with fiction to stir up debate at best / unrest at worst... it's how they roll and has been the epicentre of wider divide within the club as forum fiction became media and terrace 'fact'.
For the first time I can remember we have some financial stability and have moved quickly in the market to secure the Managers first choice targets or close to them. The new players look wonderful quality and for once we have beaten other clubs to get them in.
The only thought I had about it was just how many Championship quality and above players will be without clubs and were there other options, what i sense is that some very average League One teams could have some big names in them looking to showcase their talents ... that said if BG has his first picks then let's be happy - now to mould them. Still expecting two or three more in before the window closes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 10:12:13 GMT
At the risk of sounding a little arrogant, what does it matter, for once we could afford to, if it meant we get the players we want. The player im most excited about is Sam Nicholson How can a business burning cash to the degree we are afford to? |
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 16, 2020 10:48:49 GMT
At the risk of sounding a little arrogant, what does it matter, for once we could afford to, if it meant we get the players we want. The player im most excited about is Sam Nicholson How can a business burning cash to the degree we are afford to? It`s not a business though. It`s the Alice in Wonderland world of professional football. |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Aug 16, 2020 10:53:07 GMT
Whatever the new signings have cost it’s a helluva gamble by Wael.Limited crowds by October at the earliest,that’s a long way off when we are haemorrhaging money like we are.Nobody can accurately say what state the country will be in and how prevelant Covid-19 will be in a fortnight yet alone October.It would be typical Rovers if the season doesn’t start or is paused after a couple of weeks when we have done our business early for once.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 11:16:55 GMT
How can a business burning cash to the degree we are afford to? It`s not a business though. It`s the Alice in Wonderland world of professional football. I am sure creditors won't feel that way if they are left with losses. |
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Post by axegas on Aug 16, 2020 11:18:22 GMT
Remember that we gained an advantage on other clubs by conducting business early so that most of our new signings so that they did not count any more than £1300 a week to the salary cap.
In regard to your claim that better players could be available if we waited, Ehmer and Westbrooke had some of the best stats in their respective positions for the division last year, realistically we aren't going to sign a better calibre than them. Garner is still active in the transfer market too.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 16, 2020 11:28:03 GMT
It`s not a business though. It`s the Alice in Wonderland world of professional football. I am sure creditors won't feel that way if they are left with losses. Wael is our creditor. |
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