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Post by brads213 on Sept 5, 2020 17:03:18 GMT
I’m struggling to see a difference from Rovers under Garner last season, other than no longer having a goal scorer. Kilgour looks like he hasn’t been told he’s not on furlough anymore and I can’t see Baldwin as an improvement on Menayese. If we play like this up at Sunderland we will be thumped. I thought the summer would actually do a lot of good for our prospects under Garner, new team, full pre season, new assistant manager. On the basis of that maybe not, looked lost defensively with no real bite up top to threaten Ipswich, but still early doors. Expecting a response against Sunderland next week. Yes I’m disappointed but will give 10 games |
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Post by ian46 on Sept 5, 2020 17:04:42 GMT
Disappointed but not the end of the world. Proper stuff starts next week.
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Post by Marshy on Sept 5, 2020 17:05:04 GMT
I thought the summer would actually do a lot of good for our prospects under Garner, new team, full pre season, new assistant manager. On the basis of that maybe not, looked lost defensively with no real bite up top to threaten Ipswich, but still early doors. Expecting a response against Sunderland next week. Yes I’m disappointed but will give 10 games Well that’s very good of you, thanks in advance. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 5, 2020 17:08:51 GMT
Peformance not result. It was a continuation of the sh** show from last season under BG. It's still one game and we always start poorly. We had the same last season after the Blackpool game. People were not happy when GC left though. Just saying it's way too early to have a meltdown. On here it seems every time we win we are going up, every time we lose, we are going down 😂. Not many are in between and can see past the last game. I know last year we were rubbish under him. But he didn't have his side. It's time to start a fresh and judge from now. Not a good start, but too early for the reaction. Dan Dan the excuses man. You posted it was obvious we were going to go on a bad run after GC left, Now this. Blind faith mate. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2020 17:09:03 GMT
Peformance not result. It was a continuation of the sh** show from last season under BG. It's still one game and we always start poorly. We had the same last season after the Blackpool game. People were not happy when GC left though. Just saying it's way too early to have a meltdown. On here it seems every time we win we are going up, every time we lose, we are going down 😂. Not many are in between and can see past the last game. I know last year we were rubbish under him. But he didn't have his side. It's time to start a fresh and judge from now. Not a good start, but too early for the reaction. Problem with that is today's performance was just as bad as our last away game at Southend. BG's simply got to get a result on Tuesday or we could start the season with 5 straight defeats. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 5, 2020 17:13:51 GMT
I’ve just had a look at the Peterborough forum. Their match thread has about 5 comments on it and at worst they appear mildly disappointed! I know we weren’t very good today, but perhaps we should temper our disappointment and look to the next game. Most Posh fans can't read or write let alone operate a device to access a forum |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 5, 2020 17:16:53 GMT
Wonder why our defenders simply allowed their player to score their second goal with no challenge or marking whatsoever.
Baldwin is very limited.Not as good as Rollin.
Excellent referee.
Outmuscled all over and an attacking threat of nowt!!!!
Don't let Ogogo Go Go.
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Post by Gashead73 on Sept 5, 2020 17:21:14 GMT
I’ve just had a look at the Peterborough forum. Their match thread has about 5 comments on it and at worst they appear mildly disappointed! I know we weren’t very good today, but perhaps we should temper our disappointment and look to the next game. Most Posh fans can't read or write let alone operate a device to access a forum That's a bit unfair on Peterborians' my ex was from Peterborough, she was good with with a Computer but she couldn't spell for toffee' she also became very unloyal... Typical Peterborian I guess |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Sept 5, 2020 17:22:08 GMT
It's a weird one, I thought we played remarkably against Cheltenham, in the second half, and Cardiff; but at the end of the day friendlies mean nothing.
I do like Garner, I think he's a very good coach; but being a very good manager is a complete different ballpark.
I do have sympathies for him though, it's very difficult to transition a footballing style from something like Coughlanball to Garnerball, especially when in my personal opinion, Clarke-Harris, the main focal point of Coughlanball, is a VERY good player; but I have suspicions he's one of those players who's only immense under certain managers. His previous record prior to Rovers and his performances under Garner suggested as such.
I think it's important to give Garner time; yes he's already been given time but it was more of an interim job, he did do remarkably poorly but Clarke proved how easy it is to turn things around given time and backing. I would reassess his performances after 12-15 league games to see where we're at, if we're in the relegation zone or perhaps 18th or below I would get rid.
We did play very poorly today, but our overall play was honestly good, it was down to remarkably poor defending and a lack of a striker which is why I think we lost. But then you could certainly raise the point; is that an indication that things will improve over time, it's not guaranteed to. If anything I think this could be very reminiscent of Clarke's last season in charge, we did play very well at points, and were very unlucky. Great defensively but up front we were woeful.
On a brighter note, I'm not sure what others think. But I think if Garner does do poorly and gets the boot the chances of a manager coming in and managing to turn around our performances, Coughlan-style, is very high.
But I'll reserve my judgement for this manager and his team until in the future.
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Post by Gashead73 on Sept 5, 2020 17:23:42 GMT
Peterborough is a shithole and she hated it' loved Bristol' and the Rovers.
Shes back there now hope she is happy, some Bristolian Housewives can feel safer now
Bitch
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 5, 2020 17:37:21 GMT
Disappointing especially conceding 3 as that department seemed to be where we were strongest however not the end of the world and the unbeaten league record is still intact! we will get better.
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Post by socrates on Sept 5, 2020 17:38:41 GMT
It was clear from early on that Ipswich were dangerous playing the ball in to the channels between wing back and central defenders yet nothing was changed and it continued to happen until the final
Whistle.
We looked slow and ponderous at the back defensively and going forward our back three played so many short passes in to the centre of midfield to a player who was marked It was ridiculous.
In midfield we were outnumbered constantly and up front we had no width and no idea and very little support from our midfield or wingbacks.
Yes it’s first game and Garner should having been allowed to bring in his players over the summer be given time but if this is a sign of things to come then he won’t make it until Christmas we were terrible today and only JVS and probably Lawson came out of it having played well.
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Post by LJG on Sept 5, 2020 17:39:54 GMT
But we still lost. We had bright spells in games under BG last season but we were still getting beat every week. ffs give him 10 games before you throw the towell in. And, again, I was making the point that our performance against Cardiff was much better than today's Never understood this "write off the first ten games of the season" business. There are only 46 league games a season. Ten games is more than a fifth of that. Over 20%. 30 possible points out of only 138 available. If you consider 50ish points is what is needed to stay up that's 60% of what you need, chucked away. If you consider 75ish points is the mark to get in the play offs that's 40% of what you need just binned. Football teams should be ready to play football at the start of the season not when half of your hoped for points tally has drifted by. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 5, 2020 17:41:57 GMT
Agree with the last.Mediocrity all over.Glimpses of neat passing movements which never actually produced a thing.Need to retain Ogogo not let him leave!!!!
Rollin is better than Baldwin and BG says 'We didn't take our chances!!!' I must have blinked when we had chances!!!!
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 5, 2020 17:42:20 GMT
Wonder why our defenders simply allowed their player to score their second goal with no challenge or marking whatsoever. Baldwin is very limited. Excellent referee. Outmuscled all over and an attacking threat of nowt!!!! It would take some serious convincing for me to believe that Baldwin is an improvement on Menayese. |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 5, 2020 17:42:25 GMT
this idea of continually playing the ball out from the back and to work it through midfield has to stop as it is easy for the opponents to quickly close down the midfield player or defender when they know what is going to happen. The occasional longer kick out has a place.
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Post by phillistine on Sept 5, 2020 17:43:47 GMT
Agree with the last.Mediocrity all over.Glimpses of neat passing movements which never actually produced a thing.Need to retain Ogogo not let him leave!!!! i agree that we cant let Ogogo leave. We lacked a physical presencce on that pitch. |
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 5, 2020 17:53:36 GMT
I was disappointed when GC left. for the first time in a long time we were consistantly winning games, games we would have been expected to lose, Ipswich for example. Lots moans about the "style" of football, I didn't care, it was winning football. Now we have someone who wants to introduce his own stye of football, Exciting football! Attacking football! Truth is I saw lots of long balls today as well as tippy tappy football.
The disappointing thing was we never looked like scoring, or winning and we need 2 strikers who are not only skilful and regular scorerers but are toug enough to bully centre halves.
From Garners comments what we will get is someone who "will fit in" "We dont need a like for like player"
I smell disaster
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Post by BlueQuarter on Sept 5, 2020 17:57:34 GMT
I acknowledge that it is easy to call an inquest after a defeat like that. We were out-fought physically and out-thought tactically. Ipswich did a job on us today. They knew that we didn't have a proven no.9 who could hold the ball up and bring others into play. They pressed high against us and forced us to go long far too often. With simple direct balls in behind they preyed on a defensive back 3 that looked leggy and unsure of who to pick up. Some of these issues can perhaps be sorted by investing in a quality CF and working on the training pitch.
I thought that we looked okay in easy possession today but my concern going forward is that I'm unsure whether our team has the nous to break a high press, or the physicality to pick up on the scraps afterwards. From a managerial perspective, what disappointed me most today was the length of time that it took to change a shape that wasn't working. I'm fearful that we will be bullied far too often this season.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 5, 2020 17:57:47 GMT
I was disappointed when GC left. for the first time in a long time we were consistantly winning games, games we would have been expected to lose, Ipswich for example. Lots moans about the "style" of football, I didn't care, it was winning football. Now we have someone who wants to introduce his own stye of football, Exciting football! Attacking football! Truth is I saw lots of long balls today as well as tippy tappy football. The disappointing thing was we never looked like scoring, or winning and we need 2 strikers who are not only skilful and regular scorerers but are toug enough to bully centre halves. From Garners comments what we will get is someone who "will fit in" "We dont need a like for like player" I smell disaster Exactly! |
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