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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 5, 2020 18:34:32 GMT
It was obvious the player's were going to get fatigued after all those games😂. We would have had a dip under GC as well. We played so many games, in such a short space of time more than any other club in the league. Plus we had injuries to key player's on top of the games. I was only talking about it then, as I've studied fitness and sports performance in great detail. Even after a rest, we still we not good enough under Garner though. I'm not a Garner fan so far. Just saying you can't judge him after one game, with his squad. Especially when we currently have no striker who has scored a league goal. I will give him 8 games, before going into total meltdown 😂. Atleast in consistent and look at the biggest picture. I've seen you change your tune so many times. Even seen you write about the player's being tired, after you said to me it didn't matter. If we win against Sunderland, you will be saying we are going up! Eh? Think I've been pretty consistent to be honest. I think Garner is a coach not a manager and will try and get us playing pretty football but get outfought. Most be confusing you with someone else. Thought you were positive after some of the games when we played better last season. Don't know how you can say I've got blind faith though. I've never said we will do well under Garner. If I had to predict, at this stage I would say that he will not be successful and I agree he looks more of a coach than a manager. I'm just saying he needs around 8 games. Then have a meltdown. I said I didn't want him as manager when he first applied, as he wasn't suited to a relegation battle and that he would be a risk. When we appointed him this time, I thought it was worth the risk. I think we will finish around mid table. I was only saying about the player's fitness last season, as I've studied fitness and performance a lot. So I saw it happening before it did, as our squad had no depth. Player's can't play twice a week for ages, without picking up knocks. They don't get time to recover. I will judge him from now. He needs to bring in the right forward, that can make a difference. The new player's look ok as individuals and if Garner does rubbish, he will be gone. |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 5, 2020 18:36:58 GMT
A worrying point for me is his post match interview. There were quite a few very poor performances like that under coughlan but after the game he acknowledged how poor it had been and showed fire and desire to make it change. And by the next match it usually did. That post match interview from garner was pathetic. He has tried to save face there and not held his hands up and said that was a very very poor performance. I hope for his sake behind the scenes he's ripped them a new one because that was as poor a first game of the season performance I've seen from us.
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Post by axegas on Sept 5, 2020 18:41:38 GMT
A worrying point for me is his post match interview. There were quite a few very poor performances like that under coughlan but after the game he acknowledged how poor it had been and showed fire and desire to make it change. And by the next match it usually did. That post match interview from garner was pathetic. He has tried to save face there and not held his hands up and said that was a very very poor performance. I hope for his sake behind the scenes he's ripped them a new one because that was as poor a first game of the season performance I've seen from us. Yeah I'd agree, surely he knows that the difference between Ipswich and us was more than just a few misses on our part, they were a lot better than us today. Can't blame him from protecting his players but was expecting him to at least admit we were very poor. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 5, 2020 18:42:58 GMT
Was it my imagination or was Garner trying to blame coming out of lockdown and the pandemic (‘still working at it’) despite this being exactly the same for nearly every other team in the country? He said we were not good enough in both boxes and we were not good enough. He said it was unique situation regarding the virus, when asked if there would be changes on Tuesday. He said it would give him chance to give others 90 minutes, which they have not been able to do much. Don't think it was an excuse. It is a unique situation for every club. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 5, 2020 18:52:35 GMT
People seem to be forgetting something, this wasn't a league game.
It's the Carabao Cup, I couldn't give a rats arse about it, I also couldn't give a rats arse about the game on Tuesday either.
Again the result today was poor, the 2nd half was terrible viewing and BG's press conference was weird, "We created quality chances", no we didn't. BUT The season starts next Saturday against Sunderland. That's when I will be reserving judgement,certainly for the first 5-10 games at least before getting carried away.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 5, 2020 18:59:06 GMT
Was it my imagination or was Garner trying to blame coming out of lockdown and the pandemic (‘still working at it’) despite this being exactly the same for nearly every other team in the country? To be fair to him, he said that in response to a queston about changing the team for Tuesday, not in reponse to a question about today's loss. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 5, 2020 19:03:07 GMT
People seem to be forgetting something, this wasn't a league game. It's the Carabao Cup, I couldn't give a rats arse about it, I also couldn't give a rats arse about the game on Tuesday either. Again the result today was poor, the 2nd half was terrible viewing and BG's press conference was weird, "We created quality chances", no we didn't. BUT The season starts next Saturday against Sunderland. That's when I will be reserving judgement,certainly for the first 5-10 games at least before getting carried away. Saying its only a Carabao cup game is clutching at straws. Its a competitive football fixture and we're Bristol Rovers, not Liverpool or Man City. |
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Post by glengas on Sept 5, 2020 19:06:06 GMT
People were raving about the signings we made and us playing Cardiff off the pitch. Yet again we have sold our top scorer and are struggling to find a suitable replacement. It’s like bloody Groundhog Day following Rovers. Fingers crossed the players can start to click once the league starts, but we need a decent striker. We hsd a decent striker but results were still sh** under BG. Fair point, but not in the form he was in under GC. Injuries and fitness seem to take its toll. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 5, 2020 19:09:05 GMT
We hsd a decent striker but results were still sh** under BG. Fair point, but not in the form he was in under GC. Injuries and fitness seem to take its toll. Or poor management? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 5, 2020 19:10:04 GMT
People seem to be forgetting something, this wasn't a league game. It's the Carabao Cup, I couldn't give a rats arse about it, I also couldn't give a rats arse about the game on Tuesday either. Again the result today was poor, the 2nd half was terrible viewing and BG's press conference was weird, "We created quality chances", no we didn't. BUT The season starts next Saturday against Sunderland. That's when I will be reserving judgement,certainly for the first 5-10 games at least before getting carried away. Saying its only a Carabao cup game is clutching at straws. Its a competitive football fixture and we're Bristol Rovers, not Liverpool or Man City. I said I couldn't give a rats arse about it, it doesn't bother me in the slightest whether we win or lose in it, the same as most clubs and their supporters. Huddersfield, Rotherham, QPR, Cardiff, Birmingham, Swansea, and Peterborough all got beat by teams a league or even 2 below them today, it's what always happens in the 1st round of this competition, we got beat by a team thats in our Division, for me it's not a big deal. |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 5, 2020 19:11:14 GMT
Today the football in the final third was very poor and I think that is what made the defence look so bad. Everyone in the defence are good players but when we constantly lose possession in the Ipswich half our wing backs were too far forward to defend and were put on the back foot. One of the centre backs had to come out and cover for the wing back leaving a large gap in the middle. I'm very suprised Ipswich didn't score more. Kilgour is a fabulous player, the managers job is to get the best out of each player not the worst. When Ayunga came on we rarely used him to hold the ball up so it came back once again. I was wondering today if Garner is an Ian Atkins, a scout rather than a coach/ manager, we shall see. We have really good players with high technical ability but today I lost some confidence that Ben can employ the right tactics. We pass it around our own half and lose possession in theirs. We are going to get punished by most teams playing like that. We know we don't have a goal scorer but today we created very little and I'm not sure if JCH had played whether it would have been any different. I'm only writing about today and not projecting it onto the future.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 5, 2020 19:17:18 GMT
Fair point, but not in the form he was in under GC. Injuries and fitness seem to take its toll. Or poor management? He didn't get off the bench for Peterborough today, as he's not fit enough. Had problems at Rotherham and Coventry as well. GC is the only manager that has got the best from him. With our back room team, there is no excuse for not being fit. Even if he does not like the manager. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 5, 2020 19:25:01 GMT
Saying its only a Carabao cup game is clutching at straws. Its a competitive football fixture and we're Bristol Rovers, not Liverpool or Man City. I said I couldn't give a rats arse about it, it doesn't bother me in the slightest whether we win or lose in it, the same as most clubs and their supporters. Huddersfield, Rotherham, QPR, Cardiff, Birmingham, Swansea, and Peterborough all got beat by teams a league or even 2 below them today, it's what always happens in the 1st round of this competition, we got beat by a team thats in our Division, for me it's not a big deal. And how many of those teams managers hasvecome into this season with 2 wins out of 20 (approx) so far in their managerial career? |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 5, 2020 19:33:46 GMT
Just heard Garners interview. I am concerned we have a manager who talks total bollocks.
Gas' answer to Lee Johnson.
Dear Ben, We have watched a few games you know.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 5, 2020 19:39:49 GMT
One less cup run and money spinning tie to worry about.on here some are just happy to roll along with it and the fear of a winning team getting promotion. Probably why they back the kit man so much.if he wasn't out in charge last season we could have been the team in quarters playing in the championship
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Post by Gassy on Sept 5, 2020 19:39:50 GMT
Saying its only a Carabao cup game is clutching at straws. Its a competitive football fixture and we're Bristol Rovers, not Liverpool or Man City. I said I couldn't give a rats arse about it, it doesn't bother me in the slightest whether we win or lose in it, the same as most clubs and their supporters. Huddersfield, Rotherham, QPR, Cardiff, Birmingham, Swansea, and Peterborough all got beat by teams a league or even 2 below them today, it's what always happens in the 1st round of this competition, we got beat by a team thats in our Division, for me it's not a big deal. I'm with you here. Whilst I had the benefit of not seeing the game as I was out, I'm not bothered or surprised. I'll be much more judgement against Sunderland next week and Ipswich back at the Mem. Typical GasChat though, we're probably going down tonight - but if we beat Sunderland we're going to win the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 19:55:52 GMT
No big games due in this cup then, only positive is we can concentrate on the league lol
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 5, 2020 20:01:29 GMT
Ehmer's interview typical cliched footballer interview. Thought he comes across quite nonchalant, that maybe his character though as the first I have heard him speak?
Garner sounds full of excuses. If Daniel was a manager he would be Garner 😂 he even had the cheek to mention the virus and lockdown! Before today he was saying how pre season couldn't have gone any better really!
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Post by socrates on Sept 5, 2020 20:13:03 GMT
ffs give him 10 games before you throw the towell in. And, again, I was making the point that our performance against Cardiff was much better than today's Never understood this "write off the first ten games of the season" business. There are only 46 league games a season. Ten games is more than a fifth of that. Over 20%. 30 possible points out of only 138 available. If you consider 50ish points is what is needed to stay up that's 60% of what you need, chucked away. If you consider 75ish points is the mark to get in the play offs that's 40% of what you need just binned. Football teams should be ready to play football at the start of the season not when half of your hoped for points tally has drifted by. You don’t keep your manager through the summer let him bring his players in and sack him after one cup game. I wouldn’t have minded if he’d been sacked before the transfer window opened but as he wasn’t and has been allowed to build his squad it obviously makes sense to see what he can do with that squad and one game isn’t enough, ten is plenty and if we’ve only won a couple or less than that then that combined with last seasons form would be grounds for the sack. I think that’s reasonable. |
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Post by socrates on Sept 5, 2020 20:13:46 GMT
It would take some serious convincing for me to believe that Baldwin is an improvement on Menayese. He most likely is; Menayese was the player who dropped the most in quality when Garner took over in my opinion. Solid but never personally rated him and I think Baldwin is at least on a similar level. Had a poor game today but that doesn’t make him a bad player. One game. |
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