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Post by socrates on Sept 20, 2020 17:02:41 GMT
Of course the knives are out. 2 wins from over 20 games what fanbase wouldn’t have the knives out after that ? I think Garner can consider himself very fortunate to still be our manager. That’s not being nasty or knee jerk it’s a reflection on his disastrous time with us and the way football is.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 20, 2020 17:41:00 GMT
Of course the knives are out. 2 wins from over 20 games what fanbase wouldn’t have the knives out after that ? I think Garner can consider himself very fortunate to still be our manager. That’s not being nasty or knee jerk it’s a reflection on his disastrous time with us and the way football is. Its not even the way Football is. In many other industries you’d get sacked for performing that way in a new job too.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 20, 2020 17:49:08 GMT
Why is anybody surprised that the knives are out for BG? His record as manager is lamentable. Last season he could hide behind the fact that the players he inherited were recruited and managed by other people. He now longer has that excuse. The first three games of the current campaign has seen no victories and the grand total of one goal ( a penalty).
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 20, 2020 18:21:19 GMT
Didn't even read the post. Anyone backing Garner with 2 wins in over 20 games and utterly toothless football needs to give their head a wobble. Wake up By December 21st we might be in a situation where we have only 2 league wins in a calendar year. And yet the apologists will still be claiming he just needs more time, more players, more luck and that the last year doesn’t count, or was just a bad dream, or something equally as ridiculous when the actual facts state quite clearly that the man just isn’t a manager. “G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL!” #GarnerDefenceLeague #TenIsTheMagicNumber #TenMoreGames #AndThenTenMore #GarnerForever #AndEver #OurBen
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 18:46:43 GMT
Do you work in the media? The “2 wins since December“ whilst factually correct ignores the fact there were about six months without a game. Doesn’t change the fact his record is awful and he gives us little confidence going forward but deliberate phrasing in this way isn’t particularly helpful. It’s a bit like when the media jump on Harry Kane every August - he’ll open a season without a goal in the first couple of games and they’ll say it’s now three months since he last scored !!! Is that is all you have, Eric? It isn't particularly helpful how the factually correct post is phrased..? Helpful to whom, or what? Advice: Take the rose tinted splinter out your eye and see things for what they are, just question just for once where we are heading in BG direction. Please. If being a rose tinter is someone who wants to see the club succeed and someone who wants the manager (chosen by the guy who has bailed us out to the tune of £20m) to turn things around then I’ll hold my hands up, guilty as charged. I posted quite a few times yesterday that Garner is making a mess of things, recent performances are not good enough and his stubbornness with a failing formation will be his downfall. I don’t think I need to get anything out of my eyes. I guess your choice of phrase was helpful and adds weight to those of the opinion he must go immediately. I think there is more than enough ammunition for his critics by quoting the results and win percentages but using a time period during which there were six months of no matches is putting a bit of an unfair spin on things. It’s amazing how polarised views are on here, your either get called a rose tinter or fanboy if you give someone the benefit of the doubt and fickle if you want to sack people and slag off players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 18:52:29 GMT
No, just 3rd. Our highest position for 20 years Nothing counts in December of any season As a career move it was probably a good time to jump ship. His stock will never be higher than we he was sat in 3rd place of league one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 18:58:08 GMT
Nothing counts in December of any season As a career move it was probably a good time to jump ship. His stock will never be higher than we he was sat in 3rd place of league one. One day we may understand the truth of why a manager leaves an L1 side in play off position 40% through the season to join a water poor L2 side.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 20, 2020 18:59:29 GMT
Another fortune teller.we are blessed to have so many in our fan base.
So where will we finish seeing as you know the future?
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 20, 2020 19:02:03 GMT
As a career move it was probably a good time to jump ship. His stock will never be higher than we he was sat in 3rd place of league one. One day we may understand the truth of why a manager leaves an L1 side in play off position 40% through the season to join a water poor L2 side. That is the answer worth waiting for.i cant believe it was just to be close to home. Cant get further then plymouth
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 20, 2020 19:02:42 GMT
As a career move it was probably a good time to jump ship. His stock will never be higher than we he was sat in 3rd place of league one. One day we may understand the truth of why a manager leaves an L1 side in play off position 40% through the season to join a water poor L2 side. Perhaps he realised the weight and pressure of expectation once we were in 4th place would be too much for him to manage,success does strange things to folk sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 19:16:12 GMT
One day we may understand the truth of why a manager leaves an L1 side in play off position 40% through the season to join a water poor L2 side. Perhaps he realised the weight and pressure of expectation once we were in 4th place would be too much for him to manage,success does strange things to folk sometimes. Purely a personal opinion with no evidence at all, but I don't think Coughlan had the respect and trust of the owners. It came to a head and he walked.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 20, 2020 19:17:08 GMT
Probably why we got garner.success is a evil bed fellow for us
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Post by socrates on Sept 20, 2020 19:17:17 GMT
Or maybe it was go home to his wife and kids or he loses them. And he didn’t go to Plymouth he went to Mansfield which is a hell of a lot closer to Sheffield where his family live.
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 20, 2020 19:18:22 GMT
Perhaps he realised the weight and pressure of expectation once we were in 4th place would be too much for him to manage,success does strange things to folk sometimes. Purely a personal opinion with no evidence at all, but I don't think Coughlan had the respect and trust of the owners. It came to a head and he walked. You may well be right he was not very sophisticated and a bit of a rough diamond perhaps not the image the club wished to project in today's market driven business.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 20, 2020 19:28:08 GMT
Or maybe it was go home to his wife and kids or he loses them. And he didn’t go to Plymouth he went to Mansfield which is a hell of a lot closer to Sheffield where his family live. But that wasn't what he suggested in his post match interview, I sense Mansfield were offering him a) a pay rise, b) a 2.5 years contract c) a decent transfer budget d) a job closer to home, you have to feel if we'd matched the first three GC would have stayed, but for some reason Wael/MS felt BG could do a better job. Although he's hardly set Mansfield alight so perhaps Wael/MS were right but the jury's still out on his replacement!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 20:39:40 GMT
Of course the knives are out. 2 wins from over 20 games what fanbase wouldn’t have the knives out after that ? I think Garner can consider himself very fortunate to still be our manager. That’s not being nasty or knee jerk it’s a reflection on his disastrous time with us and the way football is. You have to wonder how many other clubs would tolerate this level of managerial ineptitude. The only table the guy is challenging to win is the table for worst performing football manager ever- that’s not being nasty or knee jerk too, it’s statistical fact. 2 wins in over 20 competitive games. More than 10 games for each win! When will it end?
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Post by james246 on Sept 20, 2020 20:42:02 GMT
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 20, 2020 20:45:18 GMT
Unfortunately we dont play cones in league 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 20:46:14 GMT
Purely a personal opinion with no evidence at all, but I don't think Coughlan had the respect and trust of the owners. It came to a head and he walked. You may well be right he was not very sophisticated and a bit of a rough diamond perhaps not the image the club wished to project in today's market driven business. I agree with the sentiment, Coughlan was the antithesis of loveable DC, but I don’t think replacing him with a ‘nice’ serial loser is any better for the club’s image either. Especially when there is no accountability being offered for poor performance in the work place in public interviews. It makes the club a bit of a laughing stock for tolerating failure. I’d be willing to bet that when Garner finally gets his marching orders Wael looks back and wishes he had done more to keep GC.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 20, 2020 21:22:30 GMT
The knives will continue to be out for BG whilst his team continue to lose and perform badly. He might get away with defeats if performances get better and there’s a sense of us being unlucky to lose but whilst we lose and perform badly the knives will continue to be out. He needs a few wins asap. Football is a results business. UTG!
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