Donny vs Gas - Matchday Thread.

since when has anyone been blamed for a win, doesn’t make sense. I think we have all seen decisions go our way which we thought were a wrong. We take them but usually with the acknowledgement that ‘we got away with that one’ or ‘that was a bit soft but we’ll take it.

I said two shots on target would be a massive improvement.got accused of living in dreamworld.

I’ve been found guilty lately of wanting the manager to be given more time and believing that he could turn this around. I think I have finally come to the realisation that I’ve been listening to my heart rather than my head. I always thought we would of been lucky to take many points from the opening 3 games but had the hope that what looks like an easier October would be where we would pick up a few wins. Well the first 3 games have gone and we didn’t pick up many points like I was expecting but that doesn’t take away from the fact the football has been shocking and it really looks like we are only heading in one direction on the pitch. BG just doesn’t seem to be able to get his team playing the way he wants or even get them motivated to put in a performance. Today was a prime example of us not even showing the desire to put a shift in. No passion, no desire, no running themselves into the ground and certainly no clue as to what they are supposed to be doing. These are the minimum required attributes I want to see from any player pulling on the quarters and today I don’t think anyone even broke into a sweat and it’s really disappointing to see. Some people will still be clinging on to the fact we have what would seem to be a couple of easier fixtures coming up, but after today, and I genuinely believe this, that Northampton will give us a proper beating this Saturday. Everything I have seen from us so far this season, and what I have seen from Northampton, they will play with their long ball, physical, style of football and I really fear we will just crumble. I think the writing really will be on the wall then

All the posters who told everyone we had made lots of great signings including better centre-backs are total k**b heads and they should own up to their folly of assuming for some unknown reason for bigging up our signings.
Tommy widdrington mocked graham coughlan for requesting a type of player which is hard to find these days in a recent interview and enthused about ben garners required recruitment.
People taking the p**s about wigan appointing john sheridan but he is a real football man and would probably throw garner out of the dressing room on his backside as would coughlan of course.
Ehmer,baldwin and harries should watch videos of tom lockyer and tony craig so they can learn all about defending.

Where is that interview with Widdrington?

Yeah definitely in this one. I remember him telling the Hartlepool lads about it and how GC was a stubborn manager who wanted hard knocks old school type players.

So, i have taken a few days to consider my thoughts and try to wrack my head around that performance. I am in the rose tinter camp and probably will always have an outlook like this as I see or try to see the good in things/people/life.

I wasn't able to watch the game, but did check in on commentary and watched the highlights and at first it seemed like we might have been having a real go at donny, only to conceed 2 in pretty quick succession. Oh gawd i thought, then we got one back which I thought might have us kick on a bit, with belief, but alas another game where we condeeded 20 shots and a big loss as more of them converted this time around.

My rose tinted glasses have been knocked from my head and it's taking me a long aging stretch down to pick them back up and place them back on my head. I know I will, just need something to grab hold of in terms of hope... Do i add some hope that BG switched to a back 4 after many of us wanted this.. or do we immediately feel that this was thrust upon us as all RWB players are injured or unfit.

I add some hope into the next group of fixtures because they are on paper easier... but do we get an easy fixture this term? I ask myself now... what would I do if I were BG and wanted to stay and sort this mess out. Well I think, like others its time to evolve and get the basics right and the confidence back. We need someone who can tackle to protect the defense, from what I saw (which wasn't much on the highlights) was that Grant doesn't appear to fill that tough tackling ball winning DM that I had hoped he would be. Maybe his is a pattern interrupt player and if you say that he is doing that job well, then great. We still need to turn that ball over and put some tackles in, big tackles.

I am glad the new lad Hanlan is seeming to be a good signing and hopefully will continue to grow for us. I would like to see both him and Ayunga play together more. Ayunga looks strong and has carved out some half decent chances for himself (quite similar to what JCH used to do) and when we play that lump ball (despite having our defenders back inside our own 18yrd box) at least we have a big, strong player there to compete and Hanlan to pick up the loose balls / flick ons etc.

I do want to see a successful Garnerball and I feel our goal vs donny this week is evidence of what Garnerball can produce, lay off by Leahy and a lovely weighted pass to find his burst forward and a well taken goal. Its that which gives me hope, less than 10 seconds from the first pass to the back of the net.
Garnerball can succeed but, and its a big BUT. We need the basics right first before we can play this way.

I am sure that each week we try to eliminate mistakes in training and work on the attacking threat but the balance is just off at the minute/loooong minute.

I am a rose tinter, but i am worried, first time i have been worried that the whole project is starting to unravel. I want to believe, I need to believe, I want to have hope, but I am realistic that my hopes are starting to fade, It is, as i have been reminded, only 3 games into THIS season, so I will start to gain my positive vibes , look out for updates in the press / Rovers website and no doubt dream of a Garnerball performance against the cobblers this Saturday. Will I get my elation at 5pm or will I put the rose tinted glasses down and rub my weary eyes? We just don't know what is going to happen... and that uncertainty, gives me hope. Blind Hope. C'mon Gas! #GoodnightIrene

You make a good point pal.

Ah for sure, a nice bit of friendly disagreeing is healthy bud.  For me, right now, It's one where I start to understand a little bit more why the 'Garner out' shouts are so loud and passionate.  I wasn't able to follow as closely last year what was happening and just jumped onto the fact that the players BG inherited were not his players and were brought in and schooled to be a big solid defensive unit.  BG came in to change the whole club which seems to have been going well off the pitch, but as I am very aware of, the results and performances have been dire for a long time.  

My hope, (again with the hope) is that sitting there at the bottom of the league in a sorry state will draw all eyes on us, the players certainly will not want to be there and the board wont tolerate that one bit.  I voted for 8 more games but I would imagine that the board has eyes and ears all over and will take action if the league position or performance on the pitch are not significantly changed within 2-3 games.  The tricky part is that we are so invested into this new club philosophy element but anything can change in football very rapidly, was it Watford that had 2/3 managers in one season?