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Post by landrover on Sept 28, 2020 10:53:28 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 28, 2020 11:08:54 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap. Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 28, 2020 11:11:23 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap. Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple You've become so warped and twisted you don't even see where you're at.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 28, 2020 11:11:41 GMT
Wael will sack him, either if we dont win another game in the next 7 games or if he dos then it will be Christmas, if we are in the bottom 4, and we will be
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Sept 28, 2020 11:19:32 GMT
When I see this question I attempt to think outside the box. On the one hand BG will have / has a really decent network and experience of the u23 prospects / developing players / gems which will feed the 'obtaining cheap and selling for profit' philosophy of the New Bristol Rovers FC. Anyone and everyone would love to see performances/points start to come in as I believe for the financial sustainability side of the club he seems like he has the ability to be able to get the youngsters in.
However, performances and league positions do not lie and none of the above positives will mean for anything if he can't get the points / performances.
I still have hope as I have posted on another post, but it is fading... fast.
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Post by titchthephot on Sept 28, 2020 11:27:05 GMT
Is everyone on this Forum a secret Ted? We are certainly beginning to sound like one. How we laughed when they went into a melt-down over Squeaky when things weren't going well but we are probably worse than that now. Wael will decide when enough is enough so it is pointless us sounding so bitter. Yes, I agree, BG's plan isn't working yet but it is only 3 games into the season. If our form carries on this way for the next few games I will probably begin to think that maybe the time has come but not yet.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 28, 2020 11:30:18 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap. Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple Presumably you were sat on the interview panel and agreed with Tommy and Starnes that BG wasn't the right man?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 28, 2020 11:30:58 GMT
Is everyone on this Forum a secret Ted? We are certainly beginning to sound like one. How we laughed when they went into a melt-down over Squeaky when things weren't going well but we are probably worse than that now. Wael will decide when enough is enough so it is pointless us sounding so bitter. Yes, I agree, BG's plan isn't working yet but it is only 3 games into the season. If our form carries on this way for the next few games I will probably begin to think that maybe the time has come but not yet. Having a different opinion to you does not make someone a ted. Supporters have been more than patient, if they’re less patient than yourself that doesn’t make them a ted any more than it makes you a ted for wanting the person behind our diabolical form to continue in their role.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 28, 2020 11:31:20 GMT
"Yes, I agree, BG's plan isn't working yet but it is only 3 games into the season"
It's actually 5 competitive fixtures. And 20+ with a whole transfer window of his own players
If you agree BG plan isn't working yet, what tangible evidence is there anything else will change?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 11:43:35 GMT
Is everyone on this Forum a secret Ted? We are certainly beginning to sound like one. How we laughed when they went into a melt-down over Squeaky when things weren't going well but we are probably worse than that now. Wael will decide when enough is enough so it is pointless us sounding so bitter. Yes, I agree, BG's plan isn't working yet but it is only 3 games into the season. If our form carries on this way for the next few games I will probably begin to think that maybe the time has come but not yet. Johnson had runs of wins and runs of defeats. We’ve just had runs of defeats. It’s very hard to keep justifying the presence of the manager when he can’t win a game. His 2 league wins in over 20 games is somewhat exceptional and indicative that he is in the wrong job. There isn’t a fanbase under the sun that would tolerate Garner’s string of results so we certainly aren’t unique in that respect. If anything Garner is lucky that we are fairly obscure as a club, can you remember the outcry the media whipped up over Steve Kean when he was temporarily Blackburn manager? It was considered an outrage that he was left in the post when he patently wasn’t a manager. What would the media make of the way the club was being run if we were a prem club?
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Post by baggins on Sept 28, 2020 11:51:17 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap. Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple Give it a rest, it's become tedious.
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Post by pirate on Sept 28, 2020 11:53:33 GMT
Because I believe sacking a manager, that has been allowed to put his own squad together, after just three league games against Sunderland, Ipswich and Doncaster is ridiculous. I think the majority of our fans would have expected three losses from that start to be honest so I would like to see how we get on against some of the lesser clubs in the division before we make a decision. For me, if we were going to only give Garner 3 league games against some of the division's toughest opposition then we should have pulled the trigger in March and let somebody else do the rebuild. Do I believe we'll turn it around? Honestly no. But I do hope we do as I believe in the logic behind what we're trying to do as a club. Agree with the sacking in March comments! BG had the whole of January transfer window and recruited his own players, so it's not just 3 matches is it? Timmy Abraham? Remember? His player within his squad. And others.. Timmy Abraham was being scouted and lined up long before BG arrived.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 28, 2020 11:54:16 GMT
When I see this question I attempt to think outside the box. On the one hand BG will have / has a really decent network and experience of the u23 prospects / developing players / gems which will feed the 'obtaining cheap and selling for profit' philosophy of the New Bristol Rovers FC. Anyone and everyone would love to see performances/points start to come in as I believe for the financial sustainability side of the club he seems like he has the ability to be able to get the youngsters in. However, performances and league positions do not lie and none of the above positives will mean for anything if he can't get the points / performances. I still have hope as I have posted on another post, but it is fading... fast. The getting youngsters in thing is an interesting point.
Prior to this season;
Rollin Menayese - 61 Senior Appearance - 22 Years Old Cian Harries - 23 Senior Appearances - 23 Years Old
To me Rollin is an example of how we should be developing players. Picked up from a local non-league club at a young age, developed through a mixture of loans and u23 appearances, gets to the age he is now with plenty of experience and improvement under his belt. I think we'll regret letting him go.
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 28, 2020 11:54:56 GMT
Don't forget the poll is based on no improvement in performances or results.
34 have said give him another 8 games. I have to say I'm amazed.
With no improvement in performances or results that would see us on 1 point after 11 games, even Southend managed 4 points from 11 games last season.. Based on the last few seasons that is likely to see us cut adrift at the bottom, probably 4 or 5 points adrift of 23rd and 9 or 10 adrift of safety.
If we get cut that far adrift at best we'll be facing a tough and go relegation battle for the rest of the season, at worst we'll be all but down before the January transfer window opens.
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Post by pirate on Sept 28, 2020 11:55:32 GMT
Wael, Starnes and Widdrington have made a pigs ear of this by choosing Garner. They will compound it by delaying any sackings. The latter two get paid regardless with Wael being the only one taking any financial hit. Garner was never the right choice in a month of Sunday’s given his declared philosophy and with inheriting a team completely at odds with his beliefs. We are in a mess which needs sorting asap. Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple A three man selection panel that did the interviews. Wael, Starnes and Widdrington.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 28, 2020 11:57:27 GMT
Don't spread the blame. This was Waels choice pure and simple Give it a rest, it's become tedious. I'd say it became tedious a while ago, it's now to the point where it would be quite amusing if it weren't for me being a little bit worried about his state of mind...
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Post by Icegas on Sept 28, 2020 12:00:19 GMT
Surprised 8 have said lets give it 8 more games. That will be 13 competitive fixtures, 10 in the league. If we see no improvement in performances or results by then we are likely to be cut adrift at the bottom and odds on to go down. And that's the key point here. People said he needed time to bring in his own players last season.Then he needed time for the players to gel...Then the first 3 games were written off as they were hard.. Blah..Blah.. A good manager would have taken that GC team that was 4th when BG took over and guilded us to a top 10 position (AT LEAST) if not to have challenged to the playoffs even if it wasn't "His team".But he drove us down the table with his 2 wins in 22 games. He is not a manager, and to be honest I can't even see how he is a good coach based on his time here even tho he has his badges and regarded quite high by some people in football. It's not about the 5 games so far this season - 4 losses and a draw.If we saw in improvement,and an idea of his vision then I would say let's just hang on and give him another 5/10 games but we aren't seeing that.The football imho is miles worse than under GC. He has been given a VERY fair crack of the wip and he has failed.We leave it another 10 games and we are down by Xmas as I fail to see how BG can pick up another 4/5 points in that period. We get someone in now ( I would go for clough or the ex Lincoln brothers) and we could turn our season around.Otherwise we could well see Bristol City in the premiership and Bristol Rovers in L2 again Next season.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 28, 2020 12:02:23 GMT
I think you are correct we didn't really expect to win these 3 games, but once again it's the manner in which we lost. Why didn't we expect to win them? We're a league one club starting the season on zero points and they're league one clubs starting the season on zero points. What did I miss that says I shouldn't expect to win? I'm still waiting for the list of games we can expect to win to be published so I know where we're going to finish this season and can stop watching the matches. They do take up such a big part of Saturday afternoons this will be much quicker. This. Absolutely Dam well this . . .
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Post by TugPhase on Sept 28, 2020 12:02:26 GMT
Is everyone on this Forum a secret Ted? We are certainly beginning to sound like one. How we laughed when they went into a melt-down over Squeaky when things weren't going well but we are probably worse than that now. Wael will decide when enough is enough so it is pointless us sounding so bitter. Yes, I agree, BG's plan isn't working yet but it is only 3 games into the season. If our form carries on this way for the next few games I will probably begin to think that maybe the time has come but not yet. Having a different opinion to you does not make someone a ted. Supporters have been more than patient, if they’re less patient than yourself that doesn’t make them a ted any more than it makes you a ted for wanting the person behind our diabolical form to continue in their role. But people who don't think BG should go were being called teds the other day. Earlier in this thread someone suggested that those that voted he should stay must be City fans, notice that wasn't jumped on. It is embarrassing. We are a fanbase that used to famously support the club throughout all sorts of adversity. Now most of the fanbase are jumping on the manager after three games of the season. Call it blind faith but that's what made me proud to be Rovers, that unwavering support. Unfortunately, that is fast fading and we are starting to resemble a lot of other clubs support, such as City...
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Post by pirate on Sept 28, 2020 12:04:49 GMT
It's not without reason to think Sh1!heads would try and hijack a poll about the current manager. After all, they think he is doing a tremendous job.
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