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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 17:16:07 GMT
What the hell are you on about? You just refuse to listen to anybody or anything that doesn't share your warped view of the World. You've also contradicted yourself on many occasions. I only asked you why you think " Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters)"? And how you know that? I've already stated that I have no leaning either way in American politics, I am balanced. I do however call out fake narratives, which is what you spout constantly. Evidence Gastafari, Empirical and Referenced. I gave you an example. Now try it. Go on. I've given you plenty. i've named my sources, you've just refused to acknowledge them. You once said I was going on a rant, and writing long paragraphs, claiming that I was wrong, you then went onto write a far longer paragraph, and actually agreed with me  You also called people in "Armed in combat uniform with automatic weapons" Trump Thugs, yet wouldn't call the NFAC thugs for doing the exact same thing. Why not? You've proved yourself to be contradictory, time and time again. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 18:03:33 GMT
Curious as to what you think of - Viktor Orban, Bolsonaro, Erdogan, Netanyahu, Duerte, Modi, Bin Salman, Putin etc.. Do you look up to these people? Do you see any opposition to them as weaklings? What the hell have they got to do with anything? Why would you be curious about what I think of them? You seem to champion conservative politics so I've just named a few right leaning leaders, that trump & Johnson look up to. Was curious how far to the right conservatives would go as they rarely put their heads above the parapet. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 18:23:24 GMT
What the hell have they got to do with anything? Why would you be curious about what I think of them? You seem to champion conservative politics so I've just named a few right leaning leaders, that trump & Johnson look up to. Was curious how far to the right conservatives would go as they rarely put their heads above the parapet. In what respect do I champion conservative politics? I have a balanced viewpoint, these days that instantly must mean that you're "Right Wing" though, right? I would never ask you what your views on Pol Pot or Chairman Mao were, because it has no relevance whatsoever. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 20:26:06 GMT
You seem to champion conservative politics so I've just named a few right leaning leaders, that trump & Johnson look up to. Was curious how far to the right conservatives would go as they rarely put their heads above the parapet. In what respect do I champion conservative politics? I have a balanced viewpoint, these days that instantly must mean that you're "Right Wing" though, right? I would never ask you what your views on Pol Pot or Chairman Mao were, because it has no relevance whatsoever. Ok that's killed that conversation, as you were. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 10:29:19 GMT
In what respect do I champion conservative politics? I have a balanced viewpoint, these days that instantly must mean that you're "Right Wing" though, right? I would never ask you what your views on Pol Pot or Chairman Mao were, because it has no relevance whatsoever. Ok that's killed that conversation, as you were. What do you expect when you pose such a stupid question. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 11:18:56 GMT
Ok that's killed that conversation, as you were. What do you expect when you pose such a stupid question. How was it stupid? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 11:27:18 GMT
Anyone see the debate?
Saw snippets, one of my sons' watched the whole thing (silly boy)
He described it as a disgrace, with a ranting lunatic stopping any kind of discussion let alone debate.
Yes Trump...
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Post by baggins on Sept 30, 2020 11:33:10 GMT
Anyone see the debate? Saw snippets, one of my sons' watched the whole thing (silly boy) He described it as a disgrace, with a ranting lunatic stopping any kind of discussion let alone debate. Yes Trump... Nope. But I've heard several people say Trump used disruption techniques to turn it into a bit of a farse. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 11:46:12 GMT
Anyone see the debate? Saw snippets, one of my sons' watched the whole thing (silly boy) He described it as a disgrace, with a ranting lunatic stopping any kind of discussion let alone debate. Yes Trump... Nope. But I've heard several people say Trump used disruption techniques to turn it into a bit of a farse. Precisely |
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Post by baggins on Sept 30, 2020 11:47:32 GMT
Nope. But I've heard several people say Trump used disruption techniques to turn it into a bit of a farse. Precisely Sort of like the threads on here? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 30, 2020 11:49:57 GMT
Anyone see the debate? Saw snippets, one of my sons' watched the whole thing (silly boy) He described it as a disgrace, with a ranting lunatic stopping any kind of discussion let alone debate. Yes Trump... I watched all of it. It wasn't great, but it was the complete opposite of what you describe. The moderator, Chris Wallace turned it into a farce. Whichever side you're on, these debates need to be impartial, Wallace was the one who stopped any kind of discussion, let alone debate. Even though Wallace was a joke, Trump didn't need to do a lot, as Biden failed to answer the majority of the key questions Wallace asked, even though he was given the chance to without any interuptions, unlike Trump. Biden also just got personal, because he was unable to answer the majority of the key questions. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 11:59:52 GMT
Anyone see the debate? Saw snippets, one of my sons' watched the whole thing (silly boy) He described it as a disgrace, with a ranting lunatic stopping any kind of discussion let alone debate. Yes Trump... I watched all of it. It wasn't great, but it was the complete opposite of what you describe. The moderator, Chris Wallace turned it into a farce. Whichever side you're on, these debates need to be impartial, Wallace was the one who stopped any kind of discussion, let alone debate. Even though Wallace was a joke, Trump didn't need to do a lot, as Biden failed to answer the majority of the key questions Wallace asked, even though he was given the chance to without any interuptions, unlike Trump. Biden also just got personal, because he was unable to answer the majority of the key questions. 😂😂😂😂 You are so blinkered as to be blind. For example Wallace to Trump "Will you condemn White Supremacist violence?" Trump "Sure" Wallace "Go on then" Trump "I say to the Proud Boys, Stand Down & Stand By" Now if that is not a dog whistle to the loonies, I don't know what is. And please, don't give a line of Whataboutery. Trump is a disgusting, tax dodging, lying clown. How anyone with a mere modicum of intelligence can defend him is beyond most decent people. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 30, 2020 12:06:10 GMT
I watched all of it. It wasn't great, but it was the complete opposite of what you describe. The moderator, Chris Wallace turned it into a farce. Whichever side you're on, these debates need to be impartial, Wallace was the one who stopped any kind of discussion, let alone debate. Even though Wallace was a joke, Trump didn't need to do a lot, as Biden failed to answer the majority of the key questions Wallace asked, even though he was given the chance to without any interuptions, unlike Trump. Biden also just got personal, because he was unable to answer the majority of the key questions. 😂😂😂😂 You are so blinkered as to be blind. For example Wallace to Trump "Will you condemn White Supremacist violence?" Trump "Sure" Wallace "Go on then" Trump "I say to the Proud Boys, Stand Down & Stand By" Now if that is not a dog whistle to the loonies, I don't know what is. And please, don't give a line of Whataboutery. Trump is a disgusting, tax dodging, lying clown. How anyone with a mere modicum of intelligence can defend him is beyond most decent people. I'm Blinkered? You just wrote loads of stuff that didn't happen, you even admitted you didn't watch it. I am not defending him, I said it wasn't a great debate. I am all about balance, which you clearly haven't got. Biden is a liar as well, he lied all the way through it. Yet again, i'm just calling out your propaganda, Oldie, that's all |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 30, 2020 12:32:27 GMT
What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. I think you should stop watching BBC or CNN and learn more about the real Trump and the good he has done in these four years.People like you through Trump was a idiot this time 4 years ago and dispute the good things he has done during that time, and how well the economy was around the world Pre C19 will never give the man any praise for anything. We were told he has no chance 4 years ago and he won.He will win by a landslide this November for one reason - the silent voter. The leftie bias media put there polls up right now and scream the loudest but this generation of Libtard snowflakes won't get in office while someone that is a true leader with a set of balls like Trump does is on the otherside of the ballet box to them.Was the case with Clinton and will be the same with Biden. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 12:39:11 GMT
😂😂😂😂 You are so blinkered as to be blind. For example Wallace to Trump "Will you condemn White Supremacist violence?" Trump "Sure" Wallace "Go on then" Trump "I say to the Proud Boys, Stand Down & Stand By" Now if that is not a dog whistle to the loonies, I don't know what is. And please, don't give a line of Whataboutery. Trump is a disgusting, tax dodging, lying clown. How anyone with a mere modicum of intelligence can defend him is beyond most decent people. I'm Blinkered? You just wrote loads of stuff that didn't happen, you even admitted you didn't watch it. I am not defending him, I said it wasn't a great debate. I am all about balance, which you clearly haven't got. Biden is a liar as well, he lied all the way through it. Yet again, i'm just calling out your propaganda, Oldie, that's all But you have quoted nothing as per usual. My example, are you denying he said that? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 30, 2020 12:59:37 GMT
I'm Blinkered? You just wrote loads of stuff that didn't happen, you even admitted you didn't watch it. I am not defending him, I said it wasn't a great debate. I am all about balance, which you clearly haven't got. Biden is a liar as well, he lied all the way through it. Yet again, i'm just calling out your propaganda, Oldie, that's all But you have quoted nothing as per usual. My example, are you denying he said that? I didn't say he didn't say it. BUT it was a cheap shot, Trump has denounced and condemned White Supremacist violence on several occasions. In yesterdays debate, Joe Biden was asked on his comments about calling Housing Projects "Racial Jungles" and full of "Predators", he completely refused to answer the question. Why wasn't he asked to answer that? Or denounce or condemn it? Or his use of the "N Word" multiple times? Why wasn't Biden questioned on his quote that "Antifa is only an idea"? All about balance. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:16:38 GMT
To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. I think you should stop watching BBC or CNN and learn more about the real Trump and the good he has done in these four years.People like you through Trump was a idiot this time 4 years ago and dispute the good things he has done during that time, and how well the economy was around the world Pre C19 will never give the man any praise for anything. We were told he has no chance 4 years ago and he won.He will win by a landslide this November for one reason - the silent voter. The leftie bias media put there polls up right now and scream the loudest but this generation of Libtard snowflakes won't get in office while someone that is a true leader with a set of balls like Trump does is on the otherside of the ballet box to them.Was the case with Clinton and will be the same with Biden. Oh dear...single entry bookkeeping So when you look at the performance of the American Economy from Jan 2017, what part did inflating demand by adding $1 Trillion to the national debt pile play? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:18:32 GMT
But you have quoted nothing as per usual. My example, are you denying he said that? I didn't say he didn't say it. BUT it was a cheap shot, Trump has denounced and condemned White Supremacist violence on several occasions. In yesterdays debate, Joe Biden was asked on his comments about calling Housing Projects "Racial Jungles" and full of "Predators", he completely refused to answer the question. Why wasn't he asked to answer that? Or denounce or condemn it? Or his use of the "N Word" multiple times? Why wasn't Biden questioned on his quote that "Antifa is only an idea"? All about balance. Whataboutery rings loud. If it was a cheap shot, why didn't he just put it down? Instead he encouraged the Proud Boys to be armed and ready. Disgraceful |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:31:42 GMT
Despite all the English middle class leftie outrage at Trump it seems that after four years the polls are pretty close. How dare the people of the US even think about electing someone of their own choice when it is clearly so upsetting for the Guardian readers thousands of miles away.
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Post by baggins on Sept 30, 2020 13:31:49 GMT
To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. I think you should stop watching BBC or CNN and learn more about the real Trump and the good he has done in these four years.People like you through Trump was a idiot this time 4 years ago and dispute the good things he has done during that time, and how well the economy was around the world Pre C19 will never give the man any praise for anything. We were told he has no chance 4 years ago and he won.He will win by a landslide this November for one reason - the silent voter. The leftie bias media put there polls up right now and scream the loudest but this generation of Libtard snowflakes won't get in office while someone that is a true leader with a set of balls like Trump does is on the otherside of the ballet box to them.Was the case with Clinton and will be the same with Biden. Best laugh for a while. |
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